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The small splinter group of which Forde was the founder and leader targets illigals ... both people and drugs.

Hmmmmm. theres some food for thought.


Ten years old though, anyone that would shoot a unarmed ten year old needs shot.

There are places on our northern border where you can drive a herd of Winnebagos across with no one being the wiser. I have seen some of these places with my own eyes. Since the Minutemen are all about protecting our borders, I wonder how many units are patrolling the northern one.

If I'm a terrorist, guess which border I'm going to target. If I'm running drugs maybe the northern route might take a bit longer but it might be a whole lot easier and safer since nobody is looking. It seems that an emphasis is placed more on a certain kind of illegal that's more easy to identify.

Maybe most Minutemen aren't racist, couldn't say for sure because I don't know any but they might hit paydirt if they go north.

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Originally posted by Thud357L:
There are places on our northern border where you can drive a herd of Winnebagos across with no one being the wiser. I have seen some of these places with my own eyes. Since the Minutemen are all about protecting our borders, I wonder how many units are patrolling the northern one.

If I'm a terrorist, guess which border I'm going to target. If I'm running drugs maybe the northern route might take a bit longer but it might be a whole lot easier and safer since nobody is looking. It seems that an emphasis is placed more on a certain kind of illegal that's more easy to identify.

Maybe most Minutemen aren't racist, couldn't say for sure because I don't know any but they might hit paydirt if they go north.

Here is some light reading for you.

"http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002538196_borderpatrol04m.html"

"http://www.workpermit.com/news/2007_04_05/us/minutemen_patrol_canadian-new_hampshire_border.htm"

"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/30/AR2005103000822.html"

"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170833,00.html"

"http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/26/202046.shtml"

All you have to do is google "minute men canadian border"

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Originally posted by BAGodbehere:

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The small splinter group of which Forde was the founder and leader targets illigals ... both people and drugs.

Hmmmmm. theres some food for thought.


Ten years old though, anyone that would shoot a unarmed ten year old needs shot.

I think I've already expressed a wish that Forde get the death penalty on an earlier post ... wasn't that good enough? If you'd would like to waterboard her first, that's ok with me as well.

Again ... I greatly regret the death of the child ... but don't expect me to mourn the death of the husband ... or the injury to the wife. They made life choices that put the child at risk and while that is no excuse for the murderers, it doesn't make the parents any better people.

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by stec74:


I live in Sierra Vista, AZ not too far from the border and drug running is a MAJOR ISSUE in this area. I hope they fry for killing the girl, but I won't shed a tear for a dead drug dealer.

All well and good, but this murder of an alledged drug dealer was for the purpose of supporting the murder of Mexicans. One has to ask, if these people would have done a home invasion of an Anglo family if they to were selling drugs?

I really don't understand why people are being so defensive about this. Ms Forde and her gang are not even representative of the Minutemen type groups who patrol the border. Many of them were disassociating themselves from her BEFORE these murders.

The Times is not the only ones calling this a racist murder, the Minutemen groups are saying that as well.

Dave

People are being defensive about Frank making this story a racial deal by using the word brown.

The story is bad on its own. I bet if he had posted the same story without the brown remark, the comments in response would have been different.

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Originally posted by stec74:

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Originally posted by Thud357L:
There are places on our northern border where you can drive a herd of Winnebagos across with no one being the wiser. I have seen some of these places with my own eyes. Since the Minutemen are all about protecting our borders, I wonder how many units are patrolling the northern one.

If I'm a terrorist, guess which border I'm going to target. If I'm running drugs maybe the northern route might take a bit longer but it might be a whole lot easier and safer since nobody is looking. It seems that an emphasis is placed more on a certain kind of illegal that's more easy to identify.

Maybe most Minutemen aren't racist, couldn't say for sure because I don't know any but they might hit paydirt if they go north.

Here is some light reading for you.

"http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002538196_borderpatrol04m.html"

"http://www.workpermit.com/news/2007_04_05/us/minutemen_patrol_canadian-new_hampshire_border.htm"

"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/30/AR2005103000822.html"

"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170833,00.html"

"http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/4/26/202046.shtml"

All you have to do is google "minute men canadian border"

I did google it. Did you actually read any of the articles? There's how many Minutemen watching the 5,525 mile northern border which is about three times longer than the southern one? Why there's got to be at least thirty. And most don't even seem to know where the border actually is.

Kind of reinforces what I'm saying. They're not making many arrests up there which could mean that not too many are crossing or that nobody is there to catch 'em.

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Originally posted by stec74:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by stec74:


I live in Sierra Vista, AZ not too far from the border and drug running is a MAJOR ISSUE in this area. I hope they fry for killing the girl, but I won't shed a tear for a dead drug dealer.

All well and good, but this murder of an alledged drug dealer was for the purpose of supporting the murder of Mexicans. One has to ask, if these people would have done a home invasion of an Anglo family if they to were selling drugs?

I really don't understand why people are being so defensive about this. Ms Forde and her gang are not even representative of the Minutemen type groups who patrol the border. Many of them were disassociating themselves from her BEFORE these murders.

The Times is not the only ones calling this a racist murder, the Minutemen groups are saying that as well.

Dave

That's fine. The issue is that many of the "out of state" newspapers make it sound like this is an issue with the Minutemen being racist and this not being a radical group.

Also many "news" agencies are conveniently leaving out the fact that one of the victims was a known drug runner.

Selective reporting makes this crime seem like it is only racially motivated. Kind of like when the OP conveniently left out the part of the article saying that the man was a known narcotics trafficker and that the attackers were looking for drugs and money.

I know many members of minutemen groups and they are not racists. They are simply willing to put their lives on the line to defend our borders from the scourge that is illegal immigration and drug trafficking from Mexico.

You too didn't bother to read the Times article...

Dave

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You too didn't bother to read the Times article ...

Perhaps more would have read it if it was an article available without subscribing to the on-line NYT. Had the OP used a readily available source for his post, this would not be an issue. As it is, a number of us have found other sources, including CBS News (that I cited) ... that it appears YOU haven't read. MY source doesn't require a subscription.

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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You too didn't bother to read the Times article ...

Perhaps more would have read it if it was an article available without subscribing to the on-line NYT. Had the OP used a readily available source for his post, this would not be an issue. As it is, a number of us have found other sources, including CBS News (that I cited) ... that it appears YOU haven't read. MY source doesn't require a subscription.

Now that's a legitimate problem...

I was about to argue with you, when I remembered that I'm actually registered with the Times. But I am NOT a subscriber. Even so, I never "advise" people to register for a damn thing on the net...

The only primary difference is that the Times article doesn't dwell on this guy being a "drug dealer," since he's never been arrested for dealing. The article makes a clear distinction between Forde and other minutemen type groups.

Dave

Many gang's start off noble to protect. The point being the minutemen are no different. With the wrong leader ship they will slowly let the monster take control them and become nothing more then another gang. This small sprinter faction probably thought since he was a smuggler that he would have access to easy drug's and easy money. The sad fact is two people died. There was no hate in this crime but just the root of all evil and that is cold hard cash.

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Originally posted by Thud357L:
There are places on our northern border where you can drive a herd of Winnebagos across with no one being the wiser. I have seen some of these places with my own eyes. Since the Minutemen are all about protecting our borders, I wonder how many units are patrolling the northern one.

If I'm a terrorist, guess which border I'm going to target. If I'm running drugs maybe the northern route might take a bit longer but it might be a whole lot easier and safer since nobody is looking. It seems that an emphasis is placed more on a certain kind of illegal that's more easy to identify.

Maybe most Minutemen aren't racist, couldn't say for sure because I don't know any but they might hit paydirt if they go north.

What's remarkable is that the terrorists haven't discovered the ease with which any Winnebago can be piloted across the border. (Although I'd bet a load of beered-up bow hunters would get by with greater facility than Dr. Khan and his brother driving one to a medical convention.) Aside from one fellow who drove across country from Montreal to cross the border in Washington State, with supposedly enough explosives to destroy the air terminal at Los Angeles, no other terrorists are crossing the border anywhere heading south.

Heading north,however, is a different story. Canadian terrorist groups (and criminal gangs) are able to arm themselves in the 'land o the minutemen' and bring the arsenals home with them.

Never mind however. We've decided to militarize our side of the line. It ain't the world's largest undefended anything any more. Wait for somebody to get shot!