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Originally posted by Tanks35:
RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,149153,00.html

RHIPs Just kidding... I can see it for combat officers who actually field troops but not the others, and it should be done on a one by one basis, I have seen in VN officers of non combat mos's sent out just to get their time in for promotation and CIB purposes who caused more harm than good.

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Originally posted by SLDO:

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Originally posted by Tanks35:
RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,149153,00.html

RHIPs Just kidding... I can see it for combat officers who actually field troops but not the others, and it should be done on a one by one basis, I have seen in VN officers of non combat mos's sent out just to get their time in for promotation and CIB purposes who caused more harm than good.

Guess that a lot of the people you are talking about were shake and bake. Quick basic course, leadership course, and voila! A certified leader! As you also remember, time on the job was very short for junior officers. “Course the fragging towards the end didn't help in the statistic department.

VN chewed them up and spit them out. Not a lot stayed around for a second go. Same way now. A lot of these guys can make a lot more money on the outside than eating dust for 12 - 15 months at a time. After the initial rush of being in combat, a lot think about other ways to feed their family.

And there are tiers of bonuses. Like the article states, it takes a few years to grow a Major. Gots to keep them as a CPT, otherwise, the pyramid would be loped off at 0-4 level. Enlisted bonuses now a days are pretty hefty too. Not like when were young pups. Thought my 6 grand bonus was really super back then. But times change. Have a good day!~!

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by SLDO:

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Originally posted by Tanks35:
RE: http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,149153,00.html

RHIPs Just kidding... I can see it for combat officers who actually field troops but not the others, and it should be done on a one by one basis, I have seen in VN officers of non combat mos's sent out just to get their time in for promotation and CIB purposes who caused more harm than good.

Guess that a lot of the people you are talking about were shake and bake. Quick basic course, leadership course, and voila! A certified leader! As you also remember, time on the job was very short for junior officers. “Course the fragging towards the end didn't help in the statistic department.

VN chewed them up and spit them out. Not a lot stayed around for a second go. Same way now. A lot of these guys can make a lot more money on the outside than eating dust for 12 - 15 months at a time. After the initial rush of being in combat, a lot think about other ways to feed their family.

And there are tiers of bonuses. Like the article states, it takes a few years to grow a Major. Gots to keep them as a CPT, otherwise, the pyramid would be loped off at 0-4 level. Enlisted bonuses now a days are pretty hefty too. Not like when were young pups. Thought my 6 grand bonus was really super back then. But times change. Have a good day!~!

Pyramid? What pyramid? If you have looked at your Army's rank structure, officer and enlisted, lately, you would have seen that is looks more like a Ming vase ... there are more lieutenant colonels in it than second lieutenants. http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/MILITARY/rg0706.pdf

If that is the case, give the Lite Colonels something to do, like leading from the front or RIF them to Captains to again lead from the front.

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Originally posted by nspreitler:
The money is nice, but will probably only be taken by a very few that wouldn't have stayed anyway. I am more interested in the branch of choice, Ranger/DLI schools, and the grad school options. Either way I'll be here until I retire, 12 years in already any bonus is just that, a bonus.

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Originally posted by AirForceAggie:

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Originally posted by nspreitler:
The money is nice, but will probably only be taken by a very few that wouldn't have stayed anyway. I am more interested in the branch of choice, Ranger/DLI schools, and the grad school options. Either way I'll be here until I retire, 12 years in already any bonus is just that, a bonus.

Yeah, however, after taxes are taken out, you're lucky if you can even keep 12 -13k of that bonus. I agree with you tht the other incentives such as branch of choice, grad school, or choice of next assignment would be a better incentive for retention. Frankly, this low of a bonus is just a waste of money.