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What is right for Wal-Mart is right for America.!!!! You're damned right, America needs a national health care system. God bless you President Obama.


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What is right for Wal-Mart is right for America.!!!! You're damned right, America needs a national health care system. God bless you President Obama.



lol.......jack, are you one of those computer bots that automatically post a positive thing on Obama anytime to any post?
 
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Sarcasm Dave, just sarcasm. Maybe a little venting/frustration as well!

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Well, that settles it! Looks like Capitalism is surely going away! Wal-Mart, in order to survive, will cave in because they know that more than likely Hugo Chavez Obama is going to be the USSA's (United Socialist States of America) next supreme leader. Congress will not challenge this, they support the peaceful overthrow of Constitutional power to our new dictator. As for the Supreme Court, hmmm...
As for the common man, well, we are going to be taken to America's new facilities, STALAGS!
We voted for Change, we got it and now there is NO HOPE!!! The annionted one is spreading the wealth! I wish I were poor now, my lazy A$$ would be living better in the near future!
The middle class will be extinct a few short months and the rich will seek politcal asylum to Mexico!

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ROFLMAO!!! Big Grin

Who would dream of calling you paranoid... Smile

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Is there any doubt we need serious healthcare reform?

Insurance and medical companies are out of control. A family I know was just informed by their insurer that they wil no longer pay for the medicine prescribed by a cardiologist for their daughter who had a heart transplant. Instead they want her to take something cheaper, which the doctor does not agree with and he won't prescribe. If she doesn't have the right drug her heart will fail, so now they are stuck paying over $500 a month to keep their daughter alive, plus pay for health insurance.


That is absolutely sickening.

The greed of the corporations is tearing this country apart, piece by piece, bit by bit. Or, in this case, one innocent child at a time.

I am freaking APPALLED.

But, do you know why the other medication isn't being considered by the lone doctor? I mean, if the insurance company went to a panel of doctors and they all said that it is what she needed, but the one doctor disagrees, then the blame goes to the sole doctor and not the insurance company. And that is the question that needs to be answered in this particular case: who is the idiot?

Either way, the little girl and her family get to play victim to a bunch of rich snobs bickering over money.

Sickening.

My deepest prayers to her and her family.



It's not that there is no God or that He isn't listening. You're probably just asking the wrong questions.
 
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Originally posted by crackerjacks61:
"The nation’s largest private employer has shocked other retailers by sending an open letter to President Obama supporting a mandate to require large employers to contribute to their employees’ health care coverage.

The National Retail Federation, a lobby for retailers, said it was “flabbergasted” by Wal-Mart’s move. 46 million Americans do not have health insurance.

"We are for an employer mandate which is fair and broad in its coverage," said the letter, signed by Wal-Mart Chief Executive Mike Duke. Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, also signed the letter, along with John Podesta, who led President Obama's transition team and is chief executive of the Center for American Progress, a think tank that calls itself “progressive”.

Well I say a national health plan is done deal now that the Corporate giant is on board with it. Could this be that Wal Mart really cares for it's employees. or is this just another ploy to save itself millions?

This is also the kind of Company / Union TEAMWORK I love seeing. A step in the right direction.

"http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/Wal-Mart-Backs-Obama-Health-Plan.aspx?googleid=266212"


A few questions...how many employees does Wal-Mart have? How many have health coverage?

How many are part-time w/o benefits?

One needs ask these questions before We ascertain whether Wal-Mart is serving their own ends...to the bottom line...or interested in the quality of life of Fellow Americans...

Specify please...


No answers???


I believe the site is an anti-wal-mart site but you asked.

Total Employess (world wide) approx. 2,100,000 (2008)[2] from WiKi.

Wal-Mart and Health Care
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Wal-Mart's Health Care Plan Fails to Cover Over 775,000 Employees

Wal-Mart reported in January 2006 that its health insurance only covers 43% of their employees. Wal-Mart has approximately 1.39 million US employees. [http://www.walmartfacts.com/docs/1625_jan2006healthcarebackgrounders_576890240.pdf]
Wal-Mart's Health Insurance Falls Far Short of Other Large Companies

On average for 2005, large companies (200 or more workers) cover approximately 66% of their employees. If Wal-Mart was to reach the average coverage rate, Wal-Mart should be covering an additional 318,000 employees [Kaiser Family Foundation, 2005 and

Wal-Mart's Health Care Eligibility is Restrictive

Part-timers—anybody below 34 hours a week — must wait 1 year before they can enroll. Moreover, spouses of part-time employees are ineligible for family health care coverage for 2006. [Wal-Mart Stores, "My Benefits, New Peak Time Benefits Making a Difference For You," 2006]
Full-time hourly employees must wait 180 days (approximately 6 months) before being able to enroll in Wal-Mart's health insurance plan. Managers have no waiting period. [Wal-Mart 2006 Associate Guide]
Nationally, the average wait time for new employees to become eligible is 1.7 months. For the retail industry it is 3.0 months. [Kaiser Family Foundation & Health Research and Educational Trust, 2005]
All of Wal-Mart's Health Plans Are Too Costly for Its Workers to Use

Since the average full-time Wal-Mart employee earned $17,114 in 2005, he or she would have to spend between 7 and 25 percent of his or her income just to cover the premiums and medical deductibles, if electing for single coverage. [Wal-Mart 2006 Associate Guide and UFCW analysis]
The average full-time employee electing for family coverage would have to spend between 22 and 40 percent of his or her income just to cover the premiums and medical deductibles. These costs do not include other health-related expenses such as medical co-pays, prescription coverage, emergency room deductibles, and ambulance deductibles. [Wal-Mart 2006 Associate Guide and UFCW Analysis].
Wal-Mart trumps the affordability of its new health care plan. According to Wal-Mart, "In January [2006], ...Coverage will be available for as little as $22 per month for individuals" [www.walmartfacts.com]
What Wal-Mart's website leaves out: Coverage is affordable, but using it will bankrupt many employees. Wal-Mart's most affordable plan for 2006 includes a $1,000 deductible for single coverage and a $3,000 deductible for family coverage ($1,000 deductible per person covered up to $3,000). [Wal-Mart 2006 Associate Guide]
Wal-Mart Admits Public Health Care is a "Better Value"

President and CEO Lee Scott said in 2005, "In some of our states, the public program may actually be a better value - with relatively high income limits to qualify, and low premiums." [Transcript Lee Scott Speech 4/5/05]
Wal-Mart's Health Care is Getting Costlier

Between 2000-2005, the cost of premiums rose 169 percent for single coverage and 117 percent for family coverage. [UFCW analysis of annual Wal-Mart Associate Guides].
In comparison, premiums for family coverage in the U.S. have increased only by 59%, from 2000-2005. [Employer Health Benefits: 2004 Annual Survey, Kaiser Family Foundation & Health Research and Educational Trust, 2004]
In 2004, Wal-Mart employees, in total, paid approximately 41% of the plan costs [Wal-Mart IRS 5500 Filings, 2005].
Nationally for 2004 on average employees paid for only 16% of single coverage costs and 28% of family coverage costs [Kaiser Family Foundation, 2005].
Wal-Mart Covers Less of the Health Care Costs Compared to Its Competitors

In a state analysis, the Massachusetts Department of Health and Human Services found that in 2003, Wal-Mart covered only 52% of total health care premium costs compared to K-Mart which covered 66%, Target which covered 68%, and Sears which covered 80% ["Employers Who Have 50 or More Employees Using Public Health Assistance," Division of Health Care Finance and Policy, 2/2005]
Wal-Mart's Spending Falls Below Industry Standards

Wal-Mart's spending on health care for its employees falls well below industry and national employer averages. In 2002, as reported in the Wall Street Journal, Wal-Mart spent an average of $3,500 per employee. By comparison, the average spending per employee in the wholesale/retailing sector was $4,800. For U.S. employers in general, the average was $5,600 per employee, Therefore, Wal-Mart's average spending on health benefits for each covered employee was 27% less than the industry average and 37% less than the national average. [Bernard Wysocki, Jr. and Ann Zimmerman, "Wal-Mart Cost-Cutting Finds a Big Target in Health Benefits," Wall Street Journal September 30, 2003 p1]
Wal-Mart Only Spends 77 Cents an Hour Per Employee for Health Benefits

In 2004, Wal-Mart spent $1.5 billion on its health insurance. This amounts to an employer contribution of around only $0.77 an hour per employee. This accounts for approximately a half-percent of Wal-Mart's $285 billion in sales in 2004. [Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart Internal Memo, 2005, Wal-Mart Annual Report, 2005].
Wal-Mart Increased Advertising More Than Health Care

In 2004, Wal-Mart spent nearly the same amount on advertising as it did on health insurance. In 2004, Wal-Mart reports that it spent $1.5 billion on health care benefits and $1.4 billion in advertising. [Wal-Mart Annual Report 2005, Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart Internal Memo, 2005]
Between 2003 and 2004, Wal-Mart increased its advertising budget by $434 million, only increasing its spending on employee health care by $100 million. That means Wal-Mart increased its spending on advertising by 45 percent while only increasing its spending on employee health care by 7 percent. [Wal-Mart Annual Report 2005, Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart Internal Memo, 2005]
In fact, Wal-Mart has consistently increased spending on advertising more than its spending on employee health care. Between 2002 and 2003, Wal-Mart put more new funds into advertising than into health care. Wal-Mart increased spending on advertising by $290 million, while only increasing health care spending by $215 million for the same period. (note: this also occurred in 1995-96, 1997-98,1998-1999). [Wal-Mart Annual Reports and 5500 Filings]
One Out of Six Wal-Mart Employees Has No Health Care Coverage At All

This is more than double the national percentage for large firms (firms with over 100 employees). In fact, we estimate that Wal-Mart accounted in 2005 for more than 1 out of every 40 uninsured workers who are employed at a large firm. [Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart Internal Memo, 2005; Wal-Mart Annual Report; "Employer-Sponsored Health Insurance Coverage: Sponsorship, Eligibility, and Participation Patterns in 2001," Bowen Garrett, Ph.D., released by the Kaiser Family Foundation September 2004].
Costs to Taxpayers
Download the Costs to Taxpayers flyer - PDF

Your tax dollars pay for Wal-Mart's greed

The estimated total amount of federal assistance for which Wal-Mart employees were eligible in 2004 was $2.5 billion. [The Hidden Price We All Pay For Wal-Mart, A Report By The Democratic Staff Of The Committee On
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Education And The Workforce, 2/16/04]
One 200-employee Wal-Mart store may cost federal taxpayers $420,750 per year. This cost comes from the following, on average:
$36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.
$42,000 a year for low-income housing assistance.
$125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for low-income families.
$100,000 a year for the additional expenses for programs for students.
$108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs of moving into state children's health insurance programs (S-CHIP)
$9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance.
[The Hidden Price We All Pay For Wal-Mart, A Report By The Democratic Staff Of The Committee On Education And The Workforce, 2/16/04]



Health care subsidies compared to executive compensation

Excluding his salary of $1.2 million, in 2004 Wal-Mart CEO Lee Scott made around $22 million in bonuses, stock awards, and stock options in 2004.
This $22 million could reimburse taxpayers in 3 states where Wal-Mart topped the list of users of state-sponsored health care programs, covering more than 15,000 Wal-Mart employees and dependents. [Wal-Mart Proxy Statement and News Articles GA, CT, AL].

Disclamer: No way can I or will I vouch for the information posted.


>>>>http://wakeupwalmart.com/facts/


The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union is a labor union representing approximately 1.4 million workers in the United States and Canada in many industries, including agriculture, health care, meatpacking, poultry and food processing, manufacturing, textile and chemical trades, and retail food. Until July 2005, UFCW was affiliated with the AFL-CIO, where it was the second largest union by membership. Along with two other members of the Change to Win Coalition, the UFCW formally disaffiliated with the AFL-CIO on July 29, 2005.
In April 2005, as part of a volley of accusatory websites created by Wal-Mart and the UFCW, the union created Wake Up Wal-Mart, a U.S.-based website and campaign with the stated goal of reforming Wal-Mart's business practices.[10]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Food_and_Commercial_Workers

Here is the main supporter of the "wakeupwalmart" turds! UFCW the ACLU, enough said here!!!

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I am sure that if Obama were to give Jack a $hit sandwich, he'd post his love for the sweet "baby ruth" right here on this forum. It's sad that there are people, Americans, who have lost there objectivity!
At least some in the MSM are starting to wake up. Did ya'll see Chip Ried and Helen Thomas get into it with the POTUS's press secretary?

http://www.breitbart.tv/white-house-reporters-grill-gibbs-over-selected-questions-for-obama/

The comments below the video ROCKS! Hmmm...maybe, just maybe the press and America is starting to see the light!

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Originally posted by usa_girl:
quote:
Originally posted by jack_flats:
What is right for Wal-Mart is right for America.!!!! You're damned right, America needs a national health care system. God bless you President Obama.



lol.......jack, are you one of those computer bots that automatically post a positive thing on Obama anytime to any post?
 
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Originally posted by strobelvets:
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Originally posted by crackerjacks61:
"The nation’s largest private employer has shocked other retailers by sending an open letter to President Obama supporting a mandate to require large employers to contribute to their employees’ health care coverage.

The National Retail Federation, a lobby for retailers, said it was “flabbergasted” by Wal-Mart’s move. 46 million Americans do not have health insurance.

"We are for an employer mandate which is fair and broad in its coverage," said the letter, signed by Wal-Mart Chief Executive Mike Duke. Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, also signed the letter, along with John Podesta, who led President Obama's transition team and is chief executive of the Center for American Progress, a think tank that calls itself “progressive”.

Well I say a national health plan is done deal now that the Corporate giant is on board with it. Could this be that Wal Mart really cares for it's employees. or is this just another ploy to save itself millions?

This is also the kind of Company / Union TEAMWORK I love seeing. A step in the right direction.

"http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/Wal-Mart-Backs-Obama-Health-Plan.aspx?googleid=266212"


A few questions...how many employees does Wal-Mart have? How many have health coverage?

How many are part-time w/o benefits?

One needs ask these questions before We ascertain whether Wal-Mart is serving their own ends...to the bottom line...or interested in the quality of life of Fellow Americans...

Specify please...


No answers???


Don't bother people with tough questions, it wrecks their preconceived notions...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81
 
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Is there any doubt we need serious healthcare reform?

Insurance and medical companies are out of control. A family I know was just informed by their insurer that they wil no longer pay for the medicine prescribed by a cardiologist for their daughter who had a heart transplant. Instead they want her to take something cheaper, which the doctor does not agree with and he won't prescribe. If she doesn't have the right drug her heart will fail, so now they are stuck paying over $500 a month to keep their daughter alive, plus pay for health insurance.


I think that you are correct in your assessment that we need reform...
I am in a similar situation, my wife is undergoing another round of chemo and the health insurance won't pay for the nausea meds she needs, won't even pay for the cheaper meds, so my wife suffers...
How many more are suffering in silence?...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81
 
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Originally posted by jack_flats:
What is right for Wal-Mart is right for America.!!!! You're damned right, America needs a national health care system. God bless you President Obama.



lol.......jack, are you one of those computer bots that automatically post a positive thing on Obama anytime to any post?


What, you have to ask?...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81
 
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Maybe this bit of advise will help. We can do alot of things ourselves and taking on multibillion dollar agencies is not one of them.

Its my personal opinion that Gerry Spence is the best lawyer for this type of situation. I could be wrong, but I don't know of any cases where he lost against an insurance company. He has decades of experience in taking on Insurance companies, usually winning against them. Assuming the family of this kid has nothing more to lose.

Anyway, once the insurance company feels the heat, it will come up with the money before you know it. But it takes the right lawyer to do this.

Personal injury lawysers in America do not get paid until you win your case. And if you have the right lawyer, your case will be settled as fast as possible, and at the same time, with the best possible outcome.



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Originally posted by nspreitler:
Is there any doubt we need serious healthcare reform?

Insurance and medical companies are out of control. A family I know was just informed by their insurer that they wil no longer pay for the medicine prescribed by a cardiologist for their daughter who had a heart transplant. Instead they want her to take something cheaper, which the doctor does not agree with and he won't prescribe. If she doesn't have the right drug her heart will fail, so now they are stuck paying over $500 a month to keep their daughter alive, plus pay for health insurance.

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I imagine Nobama's next Town-Hall meeting will take place inside a Super Walmart in front of the Pharmacy counter. Eek
 
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You know crackerjack, that is a good point, affordable, not free...

I think we should all have access to healthcare and I think we should all have to pay for it and I think it is too expensive.

Right now we have to have it and pay for it to get treatment and if we don't we go to er and they treat us and then we pay even more later, yes?

Why can't we just have the darn treatment and make small payments?

Why does everything have to be so expensive that if you get sick you have to sell your house and will be out on the street?

I will say that I am concerned with the quality going down if we mess with the healthcare.

Ever been to a free clinic? I mean, yes, you do get seen eventually, but you are really not to sure you are getting the best treatment.

Why is healthcare and housing lenders and companies like gas, oil, electric all so greedy?

Why can't you just pay a little along the way without all the outrageous interest?


I was listening to a doctor (somehow connected to the AMA) talk about the health care. In one of his statements he said that due to federal regulations, doctors can not make side arrangements with patients. It is not allowed. (Remember in the old days, there was that barter system.)


Doctors make side deals all the time. They just don't tell anyone... Smile

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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
I am sure that if Obama were to give Jack a $hit sandwich, he'd post his love for the sweet "baby ruth" right here on this forum. It's sad that there are people, Americans, who have lost there objectivity!
At least some in the MSM are starting to wake up. Did ya'll see Chip Ried and Helen Thomas get into it with the POTUS's press secretary?

http://www.breitbart.tv/white-house-reporters-grill-gibbs-over-selected-questions-for-obama/

The comments below the video ROCKS! Hmmm...maybe, just maybe the press and America is starting to see the light!

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Originally posted by usa_girl:
quote:
Originally posted by jack_flats:
What is right for Wal-Mart is right for America.!!!! You're damned right, America needs a national health care system. God bless you President Obama.



lol.......jack, are you one of those computer bots that automatically post a positive thing on Obama anytime to any post?


Airborn, are you trying to kill me? Wasn't too long ago that Thomas was referred to as a Democrat robot, BDS supreme, when all she was doing, was doing her job.

Man, I love that woman - And she's STILL doing her job. I support a good National Health Insurance Plan for all of us, instead of a hand out to the HMO's, and their drug company relatives. Single Payer, cheap, covers everyone, affordable, and superior... Smile

Dave
 
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Airborn, are you trying to kill me? Wasn't too long ago that Thomas was referred to as a Democrat robot, BDS supreme, when all she was doing, was doing her job.

Man, I love that woman - And she's STILL doing her job. I support a good National Health Insurance Plan for all of us, instead of a hand out to the HMO's, and their drug company relatives. Single Payer, cheap, covers everyone, affordable, and superior... Smile

Dave




Sooo...where are you going to find a "good" National Health Insurance Plan that is cheap, affordable (for us regular folk) and superior?
 
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I would simply note that if WALMART is supporting Obama's plan, it has analyzed it and determined that in the long run, it will cost the corporation LESS than what it is currently (and projects) paying for employee health care.
 
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I would simply note that if WALMART is supporting Obama's plan, it has analyzed it and determined that in the long run, it will cost the corporation LESS than what it is currently (and projects) paying for employee health care.


That was my impression of the Obama plan, nice to see Walmart back me up... Smile

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"http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/"

Walmart and the Chinese are said to be a joint venture...

Before We jump on the social Medicine bandwagon we should ask questions concerning form, fit and function...
 
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You know crackerjack, that is a good point, affordable, not free...

I think we should all have access to healthcare and I think we should all have to pay for it and I think it is too expensive.

Right now we have to have it and pay for it to get treatment and if we don't we go to er and they treat us and then we pay even more later, yes?

Why can't we just have the darn treatment and make small payments?

Why does everything have to be so expensive that if you get sick you have to sell your house and will be out on the street?

I will say that I am concerned with the quality going down if we mess with the healthcare.

Ever been to a free clinic? I mean, yes, you do get seen eventually, but you are really not to sure you are getting the best treatment.

Why is healthcare and housing lenders and companies like gas, oil, electric all so greedy?

Why can't you just pay a little along the way without all the outrageous interest?


Hun, do not worry about the quality. We are Americans not Brits and Canadians. A great comparison to this is the U.S. Post Office / UPS and Fed Ex. All of them compete and they all offer great service. The far right just wants to brain wash people into thinking that the quality will go down because they do not want affordable health care for working people or because of the stale beliefs they have. I can not emphasis enough, we are the USA and much better than the rest! No matter what we do!
 
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"The nation’s largest private employer has shocked other retailers by sending an open letter to President Obama supporting a mandate to require large employers to contribute to their employees’ health care coverage.

The National Retail Federation, a lobby for retailers, said it was “flabbergasted” by Wal-Mart’s move. 46 million Americans do not have health insurance.

"We are for an employer mandate which is fair and broad in its coverage," said the letter, signed by Wal-Mart Chief Executive Mike Duke. Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, also signed the letter, along with John Podesta, who led President Obama's transition team and is chief executive of the Center for American Progress, a think tank that calls itself “progressive”.

Well I say a national health plan is done deal now that the Corporate giant is on board with it. Could this be that Wal Mart really cares for it's employees. or is this just another ploy to save itself millions?

This is also the kind of Company / Union TEAMWORK I love seeing. A step in the right direction.

"http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/Wal-Mart-Backs-Obama-Health-Plan.aspx?googleid=266212"


A few questions...how many employees does Wal-Mart have? How many have health coverage?

How many are part-time w/o benefits?

One needs ask these questions before We ascertain whether Wal-Mart is serving their own ends...to the bottom line...or interested in the quality of life of Fellow Americans...

Specify please...


I have no clue, but I do question Wal Marts motives in all this.
 
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Originally posted by usa_girl:
You know crackerjack, that is a good point, affordable, not free...

I think we should all have access to healthcare and I think we should all have to pay for it and I think it is too expensive.

Right now we have to have it and pay for it to get treatment and if we don't we go to er and they treat us and then we pay even more later, yes?

Why can't we just have the darn treatment and make small payments?

Why does everything have to be so expensive that if you get sick you have to sell your house and will be out on the street?

I will say that I am concerned with the quality going down if we mess with the healthcare.

Ever been to a free clinic? I mean, yes, you do get seen eventually, but you are really not to sure you are getting the best treatment.

Why is healthcare and housing lenders and companies like gas, oil, electric all so greedy?

Why can't you just pay a little along the way without all the outrageous interest?


Hun, do not worry about the quality. We are Americans not Brits and Canadians. A great comparison to this is the U.S. Post Office / UPS and Fed Ex. All of them compete and they all offer great service. The far right just wants to brain wash people into thinking that the quality will go down because they do not want affordable health care for working people or because of the stale beliefs they have. I can not emphasis enough, we are the USA and much better than the rest! No matter what we do!


True enough crackerjack, we are Americans....hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

I am just concerned because I have a friend who is from Canada and a Dr and he said that Canada's healthcare is messed up and that is why he came here to practice.
 
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