RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167134,00.html
Frankie has gone completely around the bend this time ... "Ikhwan fronts"? He made no mention of the fact that the "unindicted co-conspirators" business was a piece of Justice Department over-zealotry, that probably helped insure that no convictions would happen, and relies heavily on an eighteen year old letter by the Muslim Brotherhood, setting forth their fondest wet dream, as if it had any basis in reality. This is a repeat of the worst excesses of the McCarthy era, and this buffoon should no longer get space to vent his fantastic bile on mil.com.

This "Muslims are going to take over Western civilization" crap has been going around since 9/11 in the neoconservative crowd. Sometimes the conspiracy centers around higher birth rates, sometimes armed, WWII-style invasion. The worrying part is that the insiders of these ideologies really and truly believe this is what is going to happen, and they try to sway the government into taking actions or adopting policies to counteract the wholly imaginary threat. So rather than reacting against something, they're creating an action that must be reacted against by something else. Something unforeseen.

I like the "Islamofacism" part the best. Franky loves the current incumbant and his policies, which includes protecting large companies from the rule of law (and considerable lawsuits) for granting the administration unwarrented access to US citizens telephone (etc) communications (even before 9/11). And, if we don't - the "terrorists win" because you apparently then "embolden" the terrorists.

Once you are protecting corporate interests over those of the citizens, you are treading on very dangerous grounds.

This is the sort of policy that we fought a world war to vanquish.

I'm sure there's a better way, and am equally sure Franky and the neocons won't find it.

I see that the Article about that senator trying to remove porno mags from the Military was completely removed from this website...must have crashed their Server with all the replies!

And I wanted to read some responces too....Damninit!

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Originally posted by oldmole:
RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167134,00.html
Frankie has gone completely around the bend this time ... "Ikhwan fronts"? He made no mention of the fact that the "unindicted co-conspirators" business was a piece of Justice Department over-zealotry, that probably helped insure that no convictions would happen, and relies heavily on an eighteen year old letter by the Muslim Brotherhood, setting forth their fondest wet dream, as if it had any basis in reality. This is a repeat of the worst excesses of the McCarthy era, and this buffoon should no longer get space to vent his fantastic bile on mil.com.

He's in the act of creating a Prophet and Crusader against Islam, himself.
When, and as sure as eggs are eggs it'll happen, there's an attack on American interests in America, by American-raised radicals, he'll be the one shouting loudest that he warned you..


Betcha.

Hate to say this to ya, Frankie... but it looks like they're catching on to you. Hmmm.... instead of worrying about crazies screaming Muslim stuff, how 'bout you worry more 'bout things like a substitute teacher in Florida getting canned for "wizardry?" Now there's something that scares the bejesus out of me!

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Originally posted by oldmole:
RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167134,00.html
Frankie has gone completely around the bend this time ... "Ikhwan fronts"? He made no mention of the fact that the "unindicted co-conspirators" business was a piece of Justice Department over-zealotry, that probably helped insure that no convictions would happen, and relies heavily
on an eighteen year old letter by the Muslim Brotherhood, setting forth their fondest wet dream, as if it had any basis in reality. This is a repeat of the worst excesses of the McCarthy era, and this buffoon should no longer get space to vent his fantastic bile on mil.com.

This neocon nutcase talks about islamic infuence; when was the last time you saw an oped from their point of view on this web site. Gaffney is an agent for the Israelis , puts their security interests ahead of our own., and is nothing less than a traitor. why is he still on this American military web site.

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Originally posted by rpg1592:

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Originally posted by oldmole:
RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167134,00.html
Frankie has gone completely around the bend this time ... "Ikhwan fronts"? He made no mention of the fact that the "unindicted co-conspirators" business was a piece of Justice Department over-zealotry, that probably helped insure that no convictions would happen, and relies heavily
on an eighteen year old letter by the Muslim Brotherhood, setting forth their fondest wet dream, as if it had any basis in reality. This is a repeat of the worst excesses of the McCarthy era, and this buffoon should no longer get space to vent his fantastic bile on mil.com.

This neocon nutcase talks about islamic infuence; when was the last time you saw an oped from their point of view on this web site. Gaffney is an agent for the Israelis , puts their security interests ahead of our own., and is nothing less than a traitor. why is he still on this American military web site.

I really enjoyed this paragraph:

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Most recently, two key federal agencies -- the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security -- encouraged American officials to eschew, when describing our enemies, the use of such terms as jihadist, mujahedeen, Islamic terrorist, Islamist, holy warrior and Islamofascism. According to an Associated Press report, the government is supposed instead to "use the terms 'violent extremist' or 'terrorist.' Both are widely understood terms that define our enemies appropriately and simultaneously deny them any level of legitimacy." (Evidently, President Bush has not gotten the word as he used what Andy McCarthy calls the "J-word" in his press conference last week.)

So basically he's saying that the State Department is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood.

Kind of hysterically funny if you think about it.

Dave

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Originally posted by oldmole:
RE: http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,167134,00.html
Frankie has gone completely around the bend this time ... "Ikhwan fronts"? He made no mention of the fact that the "unindicted co-conspirators" business was a piece of Justice Department over-zealotry, that probably helped insure that no convictions would happen, and relies heavily on an eighteen year old letter by the Muslim Brotherhood, setting forth their fondest wet dream, as if it had any basis in reality. This is a repeat of the worst excesses of the McCarthy era, and this buffoon should no longer get space to vent his fantastic bile on mil.com.

Nor anywhere else for that matter. This guy is THE most fear-mongering person ever to impersonate a reliable and honest, truly discerning "Journalist".

Any of y'all ever do a lot of business with a big islamic community in america? not the corner zippy mart, but an actual community that spans whole zip codes?

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Originally posted by godawgz:
Any of y'all ever do a lot of business with a big Islamic community in America? not the corner zippy mart, but an actual community that spans whole zip codes?

Yes I have. There is a very large community in the San Diego area. What is your point?

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by godawgz:
Any of y'all ever do a lot of business with a big Islamic community in America? not the corner zippy mart, but an actual community that spans whole zip codes?

Yes I have. There is a very large community in the San Diego area. What is your point?

Yeah, me too. Big, mostly Pakistani community on Coney Island Avenue in Brooklyn. Every storefront had a picture of Bhutto during the recent elections over there.

Dave

Damn. Talking about backing a dead horse! Nah the point is that those cats have their own little world going on.. Not saying we have to take to the streets with torches and pitchforks, however, a little vigilance would only be prudent....

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Originally posted by godawgz:
Damn. Talking about backing a dead horse! Nah the point is that those cats have their own little world going on.. Not saying we have to take to the streets with torches and pitchforks, however, a little vigilance would only be prudent....

That's the problem with those who, on the one hand tell us how superior our society is, and on the other doubt that anyone cares.

The Pakistanis are hard working, wanna be Americans. They're working hard, getting prosperous, and are decent neighbors. They believe in Democratic values more than native born people.

Our society IS Superior to what's going on in Pakistan or other half azzed countries.

Well, Pakistani's are not Arabs, you want Arabs, you go to Atlantic Avenue between Third Ave and the BQE. The area is famous for some of the best restaurants in New York. Once again, hard working people who are making money. People whose children, like every other wave of immigrants, will be indistinguishable from everyone else.

(First place I've ever eaten breaded turkey cutlets )

Dave

Go to dearborn if you want arabs.. the 38126 zip, and part of 38127.. for somalis go to St Paul MN.. and keep your radar up.. not everybody who is making money values the 'superiority of american society'.....

I think you guys are underestimating the will of the enemy here. Islamic extremism is alive and well and is living in America under you noses and it seems by the posts so far that none of you seem to care or understated the possibilities that can happen if you lose vigilance.
Even now while you are sleeping, their schools are popping up everywhere, there are front groups posing as charities and social organizations that directly fund Hamas and other terrorists.
But hey, sleep if you want just as Europe has and now they find themselves engulfed in a movement of radical jihadists in numbers sufficient to prevent their deportation and powerful enough to slowly change the political climate in their favor.

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:
I think you guys are underestimating the will of the enemy here. Islamic extremism is alive and well and is living in America under you noses and it seems by the posts so far that none of you seem to care or understated the possibilities that can happen if you lose vigilance.
Even now while you are sleeping, their schools are popping up everywhere, there are front groups posing as charities and social organizations that directly fund Hamas and other terrorists.
But hey, sleep if you want just as Europe has and now they find themselves engulfed in a movement of radical jihadists in numbers sufficient to prevent their deportation and powerful enough to slowly change the political climate in their favor.

I care about them funding Hamas as much as I do about Jews funding various racist Israeli groups. I want to know if they are funding Al Qaeda or wannabe's.

Dave

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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:
I think you guys are underestimating the will of the enemy here. Islamic extremism is alive and well and is living in America under you noses and it seems by the posts so far that none of you seem to care or understated the possibilities that can happen if you lose vigilance.

"Vigilance", the word from which "Vigilante" springs.
The very same thing can be said about The Irish in America, The Italians, The Latino community, Jews, Hmongs, and those freedom hating enemies on U.S. Reservations? Even while we sleep, they all are planning "things", and we should keep an ever-vigilant EYE on them... yes.

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Even now while you are sleeping, their schools are popping up everywhere, there are front groups posing as charities and social organizations that directly fund Hamas and other terrorists.

Name 2 social organizations in America that directly fund Hamas... and provide the proof.

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But hey, sleep if you want just as Europe has and now they find themselves engulfed in a movement of radical jihadists in numbers sufficient to prevent their deportation and powerful enough to slowly change the political climate in their favor.

First of all, if we were all sleeping right now nobody would be reading this gibberish. Second, you need to see a Doctor, maybe get treatment for that paranoia.

Or don't.

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Originally posted by godawgz:
Go to dearborn if you want arabs.. the 38126 zip, and part of 38127.. for somalis go to St Paul MN.. and keep your radar up.. not everybody who is making money values the 'superiority of american society'.....

WRONG.

The Somali Community in Minneapolis is "rather" large (10,000 at most - out of 400,000), in fact twice as large as the one in St. Paul, estimated to be about 4,000 people.

I have lived in St. Paul and Mpls. for 45 or so of my 54 years. Not only are you making racially insensitive insinuations about innocent people, people who live and work and raise families and buy things at local stores (yada, yada, yada...) in our community, you don't even have the slightest idea what you are talking about beforehand.

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First of all, if we were all sleeping right now nobody would be reading this gibberish. Second, you need to see a Doctor, maybe get treatment for that paranoia.

Or don't.

Hey, Im not paranoid, I just see what is happening in the reality of things as opposed to pretending there isnt a couple million radical islamists bent on a world ruled by Sharia law.
If it isnt such a big worry then why spend billions a month in a war in a country that wasnt a threat until after the Bush invasion.
No islamic threat? Then bring the troops home.