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WASHINGTON — A former deputy secretary of state, Richard Armitage, said yesterday he was foolish to have disclosed Valerie Plame's CIA identity.

Mr. Armitage's acknowledgment came in response to comments by Ms. Plame, who said the former Bush administration official had no right to talk to a reporter about where she worked.

A year ago, Mr. Armitage publicly apologized to Ms. Plame and her husband.

Messrs. Armitage and a former White House deputy chief of staff, Karl Rove, were the sources for a 2003 newspaper column by a commentator, Robert Novak, which disclosed Ms. Plame's CIA employment.


Cool. Now, wonder who the special prosecutor is going to be that's going to head up the investigation of Armitage. Wink Razz (not happening! Dem double standards strikes again!)
 
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Dem double standards strikes again!

of course nothing new...


 
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but, but, but - i thought Joe Wilson said it was a Bush Administration conspiracy against him! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


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Dem double standards strikes again!

of course nothing new...
 
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but, but, but - i thought Joe Wilson said it was a Bush Administration conspiracy against him! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


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Originally posted by outlaws93:
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Dem double standards strikes again!

of course nothing new...


It only seems that Armitage is Man Enough to admit he was a Primary Party in outting a US Agent.

Bet he feels lonely, though he didn't seemingly act alone.

You only have to "Search": Patrick Fitzgerald, Matt Cooper, Karl Rove, Ari Fleischer, Scootah Libby, The testimony from the trials, Fitzgerald's Opening Statement/Summation, the jury's finding and statments to the media, the judge's statements.

But I will say in comparison to what they did TO OUR own Agent, WaterBoarding can't be considered Torture to them; I'll give them that.

I do wonder if our High Level Govt Officials OUT another Agent will Conservatives think it's OK?

Exactly How many have to be outed before it's deemed a Problem?
 
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Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”…

 
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Nothing out of the ordinary with 'foolish' and 'White House' in the same sentence.
 
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But Armitage was never convicted of anything. So, what pardon for him? In fact, to the best of my knowledge, unlike Scooter Libby, Armitage received no consequences for outing Plame.

Libby got nailed with something like a $200,000+ fine and time in jail - most of which will already have been served by the time W leaves office.

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Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”…

 
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But Armitage was never convicted of anything. So, what pardon for him? In fact, to the best of my knowledge, unlike Scooter Libby, Armitage received no consequences for outing Plame.

Libby got nailed with something like a $200,000+ fine and time in jail - most of which will already have been served by the time W leaves office.

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Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”…





Remember when W said, “anyone involved in this leak” would be prosecuted to the fullest extent… That’s it…! So even if he or they were convicted…pardon….

clinton in the last days/hours of office, pardoned 140 people!
 
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Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
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Originally posted by GroovyLady:
But Armitage was never convicted of anything. So, what pardon for him? In fact, to the best of my knowledge, unlike Scooter Libby, Armitage received no consequences for outing Plame.

Libby got nailed with something like a $200,000+ fine and time in jail - most of which will already have been served by the time W leaves office.

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Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”…





Remember when W said, “anyone involved in this leak” would be prosecuted to the fullest extent… That’s it…! So even if he or they were convicted…pardon….

clinton in the last days/hours of office, pardoned 140 people!
What does this have to do with President Clinton? Seems to me the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame was done under George Bush's watch.
 
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while it was wrong to "out" Plame it really was not some horrible damaging thing. Plame was not at any time a covert agent or participated in any clandestine ops. She was basically a desk jockey with "travel benefits" She worked counter proliferation and everyone knew who she worked for both in Athens and in Brussels which were her only overseas assignments, which to her credit was as a handler to some who actually were covert. Revealing her really wasnt a big deal other than it was technically illegal.
 
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Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
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Originally posted by GroovyLady:
But Armitage was never convicted of anything. So, what pardon for him? In fact, to the best of my knowledge, unlike Scooter Libby, Armitage received no consequences for outing Plame.

Libby got nailed with something like a $200,000+ fine and time in jail - most of which will already have been served by the time W leaves office.

quote:
Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”…





Remember when W said, “anyone involved in this leak” would be prosecuted to the fullest extent… That’s it…! So even if he or they were convicted…pardon….

clinton in the last days/hours of office, pardoned 140 people!
What does this have to do with President Clinton? Seems to me the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame was done under George Bush's watch.



Seems to me the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame was done under George Bush's watch
Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”...Ahhhh, yea...! (W...?)


The point was, that if these guys get indicted, go to trial, get convicted…that pardons could be granted by the POTUS.

The example of clinton was to show how many were passed out during his last days in office.

Read the links…
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/02/21/clinton.pardon.03/index.html
Clinton issued 140 pardons and 36 sentence commutations hours before he left office January 20.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/20/...on.pardon/index.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010120/aponline104904_000.htm

and the 2nd point…I’m wondering how many bush has / will issue…?

http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1992/921224-260039.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/28/politics/main889049.shtml

I AM NOT A FAN of rove, libby…or any of these power hungry, (rep or dem) DC fanatics!
 
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Originally posted by FlankerFlyer:
while it was wrong to "out" Plame it really was not some horrible damaging thing. Plame was not at any time a covert agent or participated in any clandestine ops. She was basically a desk jockey with "travel benefits" She worked counter proliferation and everyone knew who she worked for both in Athens and in Brussels which were her only overseas assignments, which to her credit was as a handler to some who actually were covert. Revealing her really wasnt a big deal other than it was technically illegal.




Right…here she is… her words!

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtm...?source=search_video

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/17/60minutes/mai...?source=search_story
 
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yeah, her book wasn't selling to well.

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Amazon.com
Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House (Hardcover)
by Valerie Plame Wilson (Author)
List Price: $26.00
Price: $17.16 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details
You Save: $8.84 (34%)


Looks like there's some used ones available for $13. Wink

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the point is, the independent investigation was inititated and Patrick Fitzgerald was responsible for identifying those responsible for leaking Plame's name. Fitzgerald did NOT identify Armitage as a leaker; hence, no persecution. In fact, Fitzgerald did not identify Scooter Libby as a leaker. Libby got busted for lying to the Grand Jury; not leaking Plame's name.

So, this isn't about W or Clinton; it's about why Fitzgerald never, to this day, bought charges against Armitage even though Armitage publicly admits to leaking Plame's name to the press.

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Originally posted by ReaperDoc:
Seems to me the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame was done under George Bush's watch
Didn’t the Admin also say they would prosecute anyone that leaked the name…?
Even if charges were brought up…hmmmm…”it’s almost pardon time”...Ahhhh, yea...! (W...?)


The point was, that if these guys get indicted, go to trial, get convicted…that pardons could be granted by the POTUS.

The example of clinton was to show how many were passed out during his last days in office.

Read the links…
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/02/21/clinton.pardon.03/index.html
Clinton issued 140 pardons and 36 sentence commutations hours before he left office January 20.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/20/...on.pardon/index.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010120/aponline104904_000.htm

and the 2nd point…I’m wondering how many bush has / will issue…?

http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1992/921224-260039.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/28/politics/main889049.shtml

I AM NOT A FAN of rove, libby…or any of these power hungry, (rep or dem) DC fanatics!
 
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