RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,161907,00.html

F Berkelery.

Not exactly sure why anyone would pay attention
to the nuts in Berkley. Look to the past and
nothing has changed in that town.

I wrote letters to these idiots, as did everyone that I know. Councilman Max Anderson is back peddling already. Just watch his video on youtube and you will see how hateful he is and how he bashes and bad-mouths Marines as cold-blooded killers. The guy is worthless, as are all these councilmembers (accept for the one holdout that voted against the measure). It's so typical...running their mouths now while they can but let a terrorist incident happen in their town and see if they start singing a different tune. Worthless...absolutely worthless Americans that have no clue where their freedoms come from.

Have them face North and shift Left... Far Left.
I have long thought that this town would make a great Bombing Range.
I pitted some as$ Hat from there about a week ago on 70 when I saw the plates and the anti war bumper stickers on his car, Welcome to Indy,Mo Fo...Drive Carefully

You see them worry already, when the public put some verbal pressure on them, Can you immagine how loud they would cry for the Corp to protect them is there ever was a Terrorist incident in their little s--- hole of a town? Screw the lot of them, Bunch of left wing p--- ants. And Those Code Pinks Too.

Personally, I agree with their sentiment in Berkeley, if not their actions. I don't blame the warriors themselves for what has happened, but I honestly don't want any more of our young people dragged over there to fight someone else's civil war.

Mistakes have been made on all sides in this issue and such vitriolic statements only make the matter worse. Far better to ignore them and let them live their own lives than to give them credence with loud public protests. All you will end up doing is trigger another round of riots like those seen before the end of Vietnam, another war that no one really believed in.
The difference this time is that our boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq have been doing a good job to the extent they are allowed and the general public is behind them, if not thier Commander in Chief. Don't sully their patriotism by causing conflict within our own nation over a false sense of outrage. It only gives our enemies more amunition.

Effing Berlkey idiots, Effing code pink idiots, i say f^ck them and F^ck berkley, time to send Mayor anderson some hate mail

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Originally posted by vulpine:
Personally, I agree with their sentiment in Berkeley, if not their actions. I don't blame the warriors themselves for what has happened, but I honestly don't want any more of our young people dragged over there to fight someone else's civil war.

Mistakes have been made on all sides in this issue and such vitriolic statements only make the matter worse. Far better to ignore them and let them live their own lives than to give them credence with loud public protests. All you will end up doing is trigger another round of riots like those seen before the end of Vietnam, another war that no one really believed in.
The difference this time is that our boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq have been doing a good job to the extent they are allowed and the general public is behind them, if not thier Commander in Chief. Don't sully their patriotism by causing conflict within our own nation over a false sense of outrage. It only gives our enemies more amunition.

Do I understand you correctly? You understand and agree with these morons? Impeding recruiting does not just affect the current war that we are involved in, it also affects troop strength overall, which affects our security as a nation. You don't have to agree with this war - that's your right. But maybe, just maybe the next one will affect you directly. I doubt you will have a problem with recruiting then. We must maintain a strong, well-trained military at all times, and recruiting is an integral part of that.

I got a reply last week from a city council member who was shocked at the way Marines stand up for each other and the uproar from other Americans. (I guess he thought people would just say Oh-well and forget about it.) He said he had voted against the action but was outnumbered.

I think Berkeley has always stood for anti-American causes and they should have Jane Fonda as their mayor. Shut them down.

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Originally posted by vulpine:
Personally, I agree with their sentiment in Berkeley, if not their actions. I don't blame the warriors themselves for what has happened, but I honestly don't want any more of our young people dragged over there to fight someone else's civil war.

Mistakes have been made on all sides in this issue and such vitriolic statements only make the matter worse. Far better to ignore them and let them live their own lives than to give them credence with loud public protests. All you will end up doing is trigger another round of riots like those seen before the end of Vietnam, another war that no one really believed in.
The difference this time is that our boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq have been doing a good job to the extent they are allowed and the general public is behind them, if not thier Commander in Chief. Don't sully their patriotism by causing conflict within our own nation over a false sense of outrage. It only gives our enemies more amunition.

Your post tells me one thing!! You haven't the foggiest idea of what is happening in this world today.
If this comes out looking like it came from my son , don't blame him. I am visiting Texas again.
Ann

Max Anderson admits he was drummed out of the Marine Corp and now he wants to get even. How in the world did this guy get elected in the first place. He said this isn't Okinawa or Iwo Jima. But the World Trade Center was another Pearl Harbor. I saw one Marine get drummed out and I would have been a disgrace to my family and town if I would have been drummed out. Its been 50 years since I was sworn in the Marine Corp and I hate to see what these people are doing. Think of all the good things. Such as Humantian duties around the world. And finally Gentlemen keep these Max Andersons out of office.

quote:

Originally posted by vulpine:
Personally, I agree with their sentiment in Berkeley, if not their actions. I don't blame the warriors themselves for what has happened, but I honestly don't want any more of our young people dragged over there to fight someone else's civil war.

Mistakes have been made on all sides in this issue and such vitriolic statements only make the matter worse. Far better to ignore them and let them live their own lives than to give them credence with loud public protests. All you will end up doing is trigger another round of riots like those seen before the end of Vietnam, another war that no one really believed in.
The difference this time is that our boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq have been doing a good job to the extent they are allowed and the general public is behind them, if not thier Commander in Chief. Don't sully their patriotism by causing conflict within our own nation over a false sense of outrage. It only gives our enemies more amunition.

I take exception to some of the comments you made. First of all, the troops are not being dragged over there, they are all volinteers, and most believe in the Mission.
Secondly, you make an inferrence that we as soldiers did not do a good job in Nam. We as soldiers did not lose that war. It was weak willed politicians and the far left that brought us defeat. We never lost any major battle there. We just lost the suport of the left, and had politicians who listened to the few lefties who shouted louder then normal people. I get disgusted with the idea that we lost the war because we were not good soldiers. We as soldiers did our job, it was here in this country that we did not get support, as is happening today. Its just that the left is not saying it outright.

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Have them face North and shift Left... Far Left.
I have long thought that this town would make a great Bombing Range.
I pitted some as$ Hat from there about a week ago on 70 when I saw the plates and the anti war bumper stickers on his car, Welcome to Indy,Mo Fo...Drive Carefully

You are either a liar, or are admitting a felony on an Internet forum. Board management has been notified.

Well said XTrooper1

Cut off every single penny coming from the Federal Govt. right down to the pennies received from the state by the Feds and lets see if the Peacl Loving Bunny Huggers can support themselves and sustain without the outside support.

They really crapped in their messkits and are now trying to figure how to back up and save face. Screw Them and their Left wing crap. If you hate the US and what our Men and Women of the military do for you LEAVE!

This is the same mentality that they had in the 60s. and everyone must rember that it has been a long time with nothing for these babys to cry about. I retired 12 years ago from the Air Force. To all GIs remember whather we agree with them or not we must defend there right to say what they think. because that is what makes us who we are. GIs hold your heads high

charle Mike

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Originally posted by Xtrooper1:

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Originally posted by vulpine:
Personally, I agree with their sentiment in Berkeley, if not their actions. I don't blame the warriors themselves for what has happened, but I honestly don't want any more of our young people dragged over there to fight someone else's civil war.

Mistakes have been made on all sides in this issue and such vitriolic statements only make the matter worse. Far better to ignore them and let them live their own lives than to give them credence with loud public protests. All you will end up doing is trigger another round of riots like those seen before the end of Vietnam, another war that no one really believed in.
The difference this time is that our boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq have been doing a good job to the extent they are allowed and the general public is behind them, if not thier Commander in Chief. Don't sully their patriotism by causing conflict within our own nation over a false sense of outrage. It only gives our enemies more amunition.

I take exception to some of the comments you made. First of all, the troops are not being dragged over there, they are all volinteers, and most believe in the Mission.
Secondly, you make an inferrence that we as soldiers did not do a good job in Nam. We as soldiers did not lose that war. It was weak willed politicians and the far left that brought us defeat. We never lost any major battle there. We just lost the suport of the left, and had politicians who listened to the few lefties who shouted louder then normal people. I get disgusted with the idea that we lost the war because we were not good soldiers. We as soldiers did our job, it was here in this country that we did not get support, as is happening today. Its just that the left is not saying it outright.

For anyone who thinks "we" mwaning
America, lost the war in Nam you need to put "Vietnam War" in your Search and then choose the first site that comes up. Wikopedia.
Tankersmom
Ann

I still think berkeley. is a pinko communist limp wristed far left Idiot infested **** roach hive of stupid imbeciles.and if that doesn't decribe the mental dim-wits that live in that town. I don't know what other words to use.for a community that has or is suppose to have a very respected intellectual community of scholars, professors,teachers.and even students I myself feel sorry for our future,our children,I just became a great grand father and I had great expections for a bright future for the little one but if our future leaders are mental idiots I don't think she will have much of a life.

These people are useless and intellectually incompetent. Only an idiot wants war. However, sometimes the unpleasant is necessary to prevent an even larger problem in the future. I spent 24 yrs in the Army and in many places the public has never or rarely heard about. I have seen many tradgic senerios played out in the miserable lives of people who are not as fortunate as we. It is never a bad thing to stand up for someone who is incapable of defending themselves. This concept is simply, in my opinion, beyond the comprehension of cowards. These people are only concerned about their own pathetic lives, they want freedom as long as the cost dose not interfere with their morning coffee. I hope this country never runs out of honorable brave citizens and we never allow such opinions and perspectives expressed by the city counsel to dominate our national consceious.

It dose not matter what your position on the war is. Soldiers fight for each other as much or more than for any ideology. Soldiers like fair play and justice and when confronted with a situation lacking in either they generally want to get involved and fix the problem and they especially react poorly to someone who opposes them with violence. For soldiers it is called war. Stop the "bad guy" from doing bad things -- to anyone, soldier or civilan. How can you fault that view point. Soldiers do not make national policy they are an instrument of national will. If we lose the will, as a people, to stand-up for freedom, or to correct an obvious wrong, or simply lose heart for those who struggle against oppression then who are we? The counsel is wrong on multiple levels just as code pink. Take their freedom away, beat and kill them if they speak out of turn and then watch them yell for help, from the very government and soldiers they now deplore. It is very sad, but they have that right because soldiers throughout our history have earned them that freedom. Pathetic, but a fact of life -- liberals!