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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:

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Originally posted by shuman14:
...if the US Supreme Court directed the US Military to remove a sitting US President for violating the US Constitution, I would follow the order.

Let's turn it around...

Suppose a armed group of Rush's "Dittoheads" (led by Rush or on their own), "Birthers" led by Alan Keyes and "Teabaggers" move on Washington D.C. in an attempt to make a "citizen's arrest" of President Obama, Vice-President Biden and all the members of the Senate and the House who are affiliated with the Democratic Party and you are stationed in the Washington D.C. area.

As a member of the U.S. military, would you defend the present government, even if it meant killing armed "Dittoheads", "Birthers" and "Teabaggers" - your fellow Americans who are attempting a coup d'etat because they really believe that President Obama is not a legitimate President - not because the Courts have determined it, but because they have been told so by talk-radio hosts and Internet bloggers?

As for me, I would shoot to kill - and feel sad afterwards for those poor deluded sheeple.

The Supreme Court has no right to do anything to a Sitting President, let alone "order the military to remove them."

Honduras might have a Constitution that guarrantee's the "rights" of the Oligarchy, we have one that guarrantee's the rights of the People.

Dave

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Uhh, No. Re-read the constitution.

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:

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Originally posted by shuman14:
...if the US Supreme Court directed the US Military to remove a sitting US President for violating the US Constitution, I would follow the order.

Let's turn it around...

Suppose a armed group of Rush's "Dittoheads" (led by Rush or on their own), "Birthers" led by Alan Keyes and "Teabaggers" move on Washington D.C. in an attempt to make a "citizen's arrest" of President Obama, Vice-President Biden and all the members of the Senate and the House who are affiliated with the Democratic Party and you are stationed in the Washington D.C. area.

As a member of the U.S. military, would you defend the present government, even if it meant killing armed "Dittoheads", "Birthers" and "Teabaggers" - your fellow Americans who are attempting a coup d'etat because they really believe that President Obama is not a legitimate President - not because the Courts have determined it, but because they have been told so by talk-radio hosts and Internet bloggers?

As for me, I would shoot to kill - and feel sad afterwards for those poor deluded sheeple.

The Supreme Court has no right to do anything to a Sitting President, let alone "order the military to remove them."

Honduras might have a Constitution that guarrantee's the "rights" of the Oligarchy, we have one that guarrantee's the rights of the People.

Dave

Can't argue that Dave, but the Legislature had already disqualified President Zeyala, the Court just confirmed their findings. Much like our system when the Chief Justice sits as President of the Senate during impeachment. The latest:

"http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_honduras_coup



By WILL WEISSERT and MARCOS ALEMAN, Associated Press Writers Will Weissert And Marcos Aleman, Associated Press Writers – 10 mins ago
TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras – Honduras' Supreme Court rebuffed a personal appeal from the Americas' top international diplomat Friday, refusing to restore ousted President Manuel Zelaya before a Saturday deadline.

Jose Miguel Insulza, who heads the Organization of American States, flew to Honduras in an attempt to persuade the forces that ousted Zelaya to take him back in the face of overwhelming international condemnation and economic sanctions.

He met for two hours with Jorge Rivera, president of the Supreme Court that authorized the military to seize Zelaya on Sunday and fly him into exile.

"Insulza asked Honduras to reinstate Zelaya, but the president of the court categorically answered that there is an arrest warrant for him," said court spokesman Danilo Izaguirre. "Now the OAS has to decide what it will do."

Insulza made no comments as he emerged from the meeting. He has said Honduras will be suspended from the organization, a move that could lead to further sanctions against one of the Americas' poorest countries, unless Zelaya is restored by Saturday morning. The OAS has called an emergency meeting in Washington for Saturday afternoon.

Insulza had conceded before traveling to Honduras that his mission was unlikely to succeed, saying: "It will be very hard to turn things around in a couple of days."

"We are not going to Honduras to negotiate. We are going to Honduras to ask them to change what they have been doing," he said.

Insulza also was meeting with leaders of Congress, "basically to clarify exactly what our position is." But he said he would not see Roberto Micheletti, whom Congress named president after Zelaya's ouster, in order to avoid legitimizing the government.

Micheletti's foreign minister, Enrique Ortez, said that Insulza "can negotiate all he wants, except for Zelaya's situation."

"That is not negotiable because he cannot return to Honduras, and if he does he will be arrested and tried," Ortez said.

Zelaya, who was traveling in Central America, planned to return to Honduras on Sunday, according to Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega. Zelaya has said he would be traveling with Insulza and the presidents of Argentina and Ecuador.

Contrary to assertions by the Micheletti government, Interpol on Friday released a statement saying it had not received any request to issue an arrest warrant for Zelaya.

Micheletti led a raucous chant of "Democracy!" before a giant crowd waving blue-and-white Honduran flags in front of the palace that Micheletti has occupied since Zelaya was seized by soldiers and flown into exile. He pledged to stand firm in the face of the international pressure.

"I am the president of all Hondurans," he proclaimed.

"They said we were afraid, but here is the proof that the people are not afraid," Micheletti yelled. "We are asking Hondurans to communicate with their relatives throughout the world to tell them that no coup took place here."

A rival rally by thousands of Zelaya backers marched to the offices of the OAS. Marchers carried a banner with a picture of Zelaya and the words: "Mel our friend, the people are with you!" Labor and farm leaders who back Zelaya said they would meet with Insulza on Friday afternoon.

Despite feared violence, the two groups did not clash. Police helicopters circled overhead and dozens of soldiers and police guarded the palace.

Micheletti's supporters say the army was justified in ousting Zelaya — on orders of Congress and the Supreme Court — because he had called a referendum which they claim he intended to use to extend his rule. Zelaya denies that and has said he will no longer press for constitutional changes.

Nations around the world have promised to shun Micheletti, who was sworn in after the coup, and the nation already is suffering economic reprisals.

Neighboring countries have imposed trade blockades, major lenders have cut aid, the Obama administration has halted joint military operations and all European Union ambassadors have abandoned the Honduran capital.

On Friday, the U.S. Embassy in Honduras issued a statement expressing "deep concern over restrictions imposed on certain fundamental rights" by Micheletti's government, including a curfew in force since Sunday, and "reports of intimidation and censorship against certain individuals and media outlets."

Micheletti's government is so eager to find a friend that it announced it had been recognized by Israel and Italy — surprising the governments of those countries. Italy withdrew its ambassador to protest the coup, and Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said: "All rumors about Israeli recognition of the new president are wholly unfounded."

Micheletti asked Nobel Peace laureate Rigoberta Menchu to help mediate the conflict, and she arrived in Tegucigalpa on Friday.

"I come to try to talk with anyone who wants to listen to search for peace for this country," she said.

A suspension by the OAS could encourage other organizations and countries to suspend international aid and loans to Honduras.

Ousted Honduran Finance Minister Rebeca Santos on Friday told international finance ministers in Chile that the coup has already hurt the economy. The World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank have suspended between $300 million and $450 million in financing.

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Uhh, No. Re-read the constitution.

Excuse me???? Was it not the left that kept harping about Sarah being one heartbeat away from being POTUS? I think YOU are the one that needs to brush up on the laws. Line of succession for the top 3: POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker of the House.

And here I thought you knew something about how things work.......

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Uhh, No. Re-read the constitution.

Excuse me???? Was it not the left that kept harping about Sarah being one heartbeat away from being POTUS? I think YOU are the one that needs to brush up on the laws. Line of succession for the top 3: POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker of the House.

And here I thought you knew something about how things work.......

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Uhh, No. Re-read the constitution.

Excuse me???? Was it not the left that kept harping about Sarah being one heartbeat away from being POTUS? I think YOU are the one that needs to brush up on the laws. Line of succession for the top 3: POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker of the House.

And here I thought you knew something about how things work.......

You're the SECOND poster who can't read what Koran said.

He said, that the Vice President becomes the President, but that the Speaker of the House doesn't jump to the vice presidency. He was replying to someone who foolishly thought that Nancy would become Vice President if anything happened to Obama.

In fact, the "New" President can select a new Vice President, who to get the job would be approved by the Senate - Which is exactly what Ford did. Ford picked Nelson Rockefeller, who was approved by the Senate and became the new Vice.

Pelosi would become President ONLY if something happened to Biden, BEFORE he could select a new Vice.

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Uhh, No. Re-read the constitution.

Excuse me???? Was it not the left that kept harping about Sarah being one heartbeat away from being POTUS? I think YOU are the one that needs to brush up on the laws. Line of succession for the top 3: POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker of the House.

And here I thought you knew something about how things work.......

You're the SECOND poster who can't read what Koran said.

He said, that the Vice President becomes the President, but that the Speaker of the House doesn't jump to the vice presidency. He was replying to someone who foolishly thought that Nancy would become Vice President if anything happened to Obama.

In fact, the "New" President can select a new Vice President, who to get the job would be approved by the Senate - Which is exactly what Ford did. Ford picked Nelson Rockefeller, who was approved by the Senate and became the new Vice.

Pelosi would become President ONLY if something happened to Biden, BEFORE he could select a new Vice.

Dave

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:

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Originally posted by shuman14:
...if the US Supreme Court directed the US Military to remove a sitting US President for violating the US Constitution, I would follow the order.

Let's turn it around...

Suppose a armed group of Rush's "Dittoheads" (led by Rush or on their own), "Birthers" led by Alan Keyes and "Teabaggers" move on Washington D.C. in an attempt to make a "citizen's arrest" of President Obama, Vice-President Biden and all the members of the Senate and the House who are affiliated with the Democratic Party and you are stationed in the Washington D.C. area.

As a member of the U.S. military, would you defend the present government, even if it meant killing armed "Dittoheads", "Birthers" and "Teabaggers" - your fellow Americans who are attempting a coup d'etat because they really believe that President Obama is not a legitimate President - not because the Courts have determined it, but because they have been told so by talk-radio hosts and Internet bloggers?

As for me, I would shoot to kill - and feel sad afterwards for those poor deluded sheeple.

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Originally posted by Grachus:
The Supreme Court has no right to do anything to a Sitting President, let alone "order the military to remove them."

Honduras might have a Constitution that guarrantee's the "rights" of the Oligarchy, we have one that guarrantee's the rights of the People.

Dave

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Originally posted by shuman14:

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Originally posted by Grachus:
The Supreme Court has no right to do anything to a Sitting President, let alone "order the military to remove them."

Honduras might have a Constitution that guarrantee's the "rights" of the Oligarchy, we have one that guarrantee's the rights of the People.

Dave

Ever heard of impeachment?

Who are the Judges in an impeachment? The SCOUS>

Say President is found Guitly in an impeachment trial, and he/she refuses to step down and has Military units that stay loyal to him/her.

The SCOUS calls on other Us Military units to arrest the Guilty President.

Likely to happen? No, but anything is possible.

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Originally posted by scooter_mech:

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Originally posted by world_king377:
jeeze i was thinking of the real gop leader not Rush Limbaugh. but here a scary thought who going to replace obama? nancy that's who

It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

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Originally posted by shuman14:

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Originally posted by Grachus:
The Supreme Court has no right to do anything to a Sitting President, let alone "order the military to remove them."

Honduras might have a Constitution that guarrantee's the "rights" of the Oligarchy, we have one that guarrantee's the rights of the People.

Dave

Ever heard of impeachment?

Who are the Judges in an impeachment? The SCOUS>

Say President is found Guilty in an impeachment trial, and he/she refuses to step down and has Military units that stay loyal to him/her.

The SCOUS calls on other Us Military units to arrest the Guilty President.

Likely to happen? No, but anything is possible.

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Originally posted by john2x:

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Originally posted by scooter_mech:

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Originally posted by world_king377:
jeeze i was thinking of the real gop leader not Rush Limbaugh. but here a scary thought who going to replace obama? nancy that's who

It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Only if Biden chose her.

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:
Does anyone read previous posts ... or do you all just jump in a burbble? What a crock ...

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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It would be Joe Biden. Not quite as scary but up there. Nancy would then become VP.

Uhh, No. Re-read the constitution.

Excuse me???? Was it not the left that kept harping about Sarah being one heartbeat away from being POTUS? I think YOU are the one that needs to brush up on the laws. Line of succession for the top 3: POTUS, VPOTUS, Speaker of the House.

And here I thought you knew something about how things work.......

You're the SECOND poster who can't read what Koran said.

He said, that the Vice President becomes the President, but that the Speaker of the House doesn't jump to the vice presidency. He was replying to someone who foolishly thought that Nancy would become Vice President if anything happened to Obama.

In fact, the "New" President can select a new Vice President, who to get the job would be approved by the Senate - Which is exactly what Ford did. Ford picked Nelson Rockefeller, who was approved by the Senate and became the new Vice.

Pelosi would become President ONLY if something happened to Biden, BEFORE he could select a new Vice.

Dave

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Originally posted by scooter_mech:

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:
Does anyone read previous posts ... or do you all just jump in a burbble? What a crock ...

no...yes...maybe

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THANK YOU

Apparently some people are illiterate.

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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THANK YOU

Apparently some people are illiterate.

Guess that makes you, Dave and myself illiterate?

I wasn't paying close attention to your post, Dave wasn't paying attention to what he typed when he said you are Koran, and you missed that little slip-up too! LOL