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http://www.metimes.com/Security/2008/06/26/mehdi_army_d...ng_reports_say/db62/

Probably not good news. The leadership of the Mehdi army has gone to ground and its fighters have melted away. Problem is the seem to have taken their munitions with them.

What does it mean?

The Iraqi government will have to take up the social welfare slack that was formerly the bailiwick of the Mehdi in Shiite areas. The odds of this being successful, I would put at 10 percent. I think we're about to see the security situation go south. This will cause Maliki to deploy the only trustworthy units he has - Kurds.

Things are not taking a turn for the better.
 
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Originally posted by popsiq:

Probably not good news. The leadership of the Mehdi army has gone to ground and its fighters have melted away. Problem is the seem to have taken their munitions with them.

What does it mean?

The Iraqi government will have to take up the social welfare slack that was formerly the bailiwick of the Mehdi in Shiite areas. The odds of this being successful, I would put at 10 percent. I think we're about to see the security situation go south. This will cause Maliki to deploy the only trustworthy units he has - Kurds.

Things are not taking a turn for the better.


You lost me.

Right after the offensive ended you were arguing that you thought the Iraqi government caved into this movement and that was a bad thing because the guerillas won or so the media stated.

Now your reading the reverse is true and now your saying this is a bad thing because the guerillas lost and there will be no social services.

Honestly, it's difficult for me to follow your reasoning here over time.

I think the Iraqi government is pulling in a lot more revenue from Oil and while that is not a good thing for us paying at the pump......it seems to be helping them out quite a bit with stabilization and rebuilding.

Also, I think the Iraqi government is pulling things together quite well. They need to work on stronger ties with their neighbors and with resolving some more of the fueds within the country. I think they are doing that though on their own timetable.
 
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Without controversey popsig wouldn't exisit so he contrives it Razz
 
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Originally posted by popsiq:

Probably not good news. The leadership of the Mehdi army has gone to ground and its fighters have melted away. Problem is the seem to have taken their munitions with them.

What does it mean?

The Iraqi government will have to take up the social welfare slack that was formerly the bailiwick of the Mehdi in Shiite areas. The odds of this being successful, I would put at 10 percent. I think we're about to see the security situation go south. This will cause Maliki to deploy the only trustworthy units he has - Kurds.

Things are not taking a turn for the better.


You lost me.

Right after the offensive ended you were arguing that you thought the Iraqi government caved into this movement and that was a bad thing because the guerillas won or so the media stated.

Now your reading the reverse is true and now your saying this is a bad thing because the guerillas lost and there will be no social services.

Honestly, it's difficult for me to follow your reasoning here over time.

I think the Iraqi government is pulling in a lot more revenue from Oil and while that is not a good thing for us paying at the pump......it seems to be helping them out quite a bit with stabilization and rebuilding.

Also, I think the Iraqi government is pulling things together quite well. They need to work on stronger ties with their neighbors and with resolving some more of the fueds within the country. I think they are doing that though on their own timetable.


The odd thing about this is that in fact they did cave and cave repeatedly. Then a week later, Sadr caves, after he appears to have won.

The key in analysing this is that BOTH sides, to one extent or the other, are taking their thinking from Iran. So, to increase the oddness of this, Maliki and his Dawa Party, and his OWN militia, the Badr Brigades, are closer to Iran than al Sadr. Yet WE think of Maliki as being our ally, and Sadr ourt enemy.

Could it be, that the two groups have more in common than divides them? Which is to say a hatred of America? Such is my thinking.

Dave
 
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Here's the oroigins of Mahdi

http://www.inplainsite.org/html/imam_mahdi.html

This is, of course, the non confrontational , sort of nice, version.

Here's the more modern rabid expression of the mahdi

http://armyofmahdi.googlepages.com/home

This is not a philosophy easily integrated even among Muslims, especially the Sufi (Orientalists) Muslims or the very large Muslim moderates, as represented by the good Sgt. Salaam.

This is not going to work itself out without bloodshed still. We need fewer "Twelvers" among the "Believers" and more pragmatists.
 
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