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The Culture of Corruptness is still alive and well in the old GOP. Wink

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Federal law enforcement agents are currently searching the Girdwood home of Alaska U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens, an FBI agent said.
"All I can say is that agents from the FBI and IRS are currently conducting a search at that residence," said Dave Heller, the assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Anchorage office. The search began this afternoon, he said.


http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/cats/ted_stevens/
 
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You'd be better served using a Non-Blog link such as this;

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi/story/9179115p-9095789c.html


If he's done something Illegal, he should pay like any criminal, be they republican or Democratic.
 
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Thanks LD, I was in scrable mode trying to be the first to post the story. Smile

Well when the CORRUPT Loyal Bushie DOJ says your corrupt and your a Republican you must be really corrupt. Wink

Justice Dept. Deems Sen. Stevens Too Corrupt To Participate In U.S. Attorney Scandal
 
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Believe it or not RS, there are SOME of us who don't care what political party you of of, and believe that if you have done something illegal, you should be punished.

And I personally think that if you are an elected official at ANY level and are found guilty of a crime, that your punishment should be HARSHER than the average Joe. Again, too whom much is given, much is, and should be, required.

There are SOME of us who think AMERICA should come first, not a political party. Translation, we are NOT political hacks.

There are SOME of us who think integrity is lacking in BOTH parties, and that BOTH should be particularly careful about calling the kettle black.

YOU are NOT a member of that group.

I say throw the book at him.
 
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Corruptness in the Old GOP apparently doesn’t fall too far from the bad apple tree. Wink

Agents Raid Office of Senator's Son -- Ben Stevens, Ted's Son
 
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Interesting RS1, I note your link mentions a Democratic State Rep being raided as well
 
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Believe it or not RS, there are SOME of us who don't care what political party you of of, and believe that if you have done something illegal, you should be punished.

And I personally think that if you are an elected official at ANY level and are found guilty of a crime, that your punishment should be HARSHER than the average Joe. Again, too whom much is given, much is, and should be, required.

There are SOME of us who think AMERICA should come first, not a political party. Translation, we are NOT political hacks.

There are SOME of us who think integrity is lacking in BOTH parties, and that BOTH should be particularly careful about calling the kettle black.

YOU are NOT a member of that group.

I say throw the book at him.


Mom I’m all for getting rid of all corrupt politicians and if the Bush Admin would honor some of congress subpoenas I think we could get a real good start on cleaning up our government.

I remember a 2000 campaign slogan of "Restoring Honor and Integrity to the White House" well it’s now 2007 and so far that hasn’t happened.
 
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Interesting RS1, I note your link mentions a Democratic State Rep -Probably was trying to convert to being a Republican and wanted to get in good with the rest of the crooks Wink being raided as well


Get rid of that rep then. I believe in starting to clean house in your own house first.
 
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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:
Believe it or not RS, there are SOME of us who don't care what political party you of of, and believe that if you have done something illegal, you should be punished.

And I personally think that if you are an elected official at ANY level and are found guilty of a crime, that your punishment should be HARSHER than the average Joe. Again, too whom much is given, much is, and should be, required.

There are SOME of us who think AMERICA should come first, not a political party. Translation, we are NOT political hacks.

There are SOME of us who think integrity is lacking in BOTH parties, and that BOTH should be particularly careful about calling the kettle black.

YOU are NOT a member of that group.

I say throw the book at him.


Mom I’m all for getting rid of all corrupt politicians and if the Bush Admin would honor some of congress subpoenas I think we could get a real good start on cleaning up our government.

I remember a 2000 campaign slogan of "Restoring Honor and Integrity to the White House" well it’s now 2007 and so far that hasn’t happened.


I believe that Bush was referring specifically to the Oval Office or some other particular room. . . the scene of Clinton's trysts with Ms. Lewinsky.

And look, about the subpoenas. . . there are TWO possible reasons for not complying with subpoenas, NOT ONE.

One is the obvious, something to hide. The other, and NEVER discussed, is the responsibility of keeping the branches of government separate. Hey, I am a fanatic about that, but it IS VERY IMPORTANT.

The INSTITUTIONS involved here, and their continued separation, is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than the alleged misdeeds of any sitting president, and the oppositions attempt to embarrass him. Those misdeeds will leave when he does, however, the INSTITUTION will remain forever. It MUST be protected. I suppose you could say something like it is a higher, . . . good, . . . or ??? Nevertheless, THAT is the reason America doesn't look like Iraq or Haiti every election cycle.
 
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Interesting RS1, I note your link mentions a Democratic State Rep being raided as well


Get rid of that rep then. I believe in starting to clean house in your own house first.
-Well, first I'd say a Search Warrant isnt evidence of wrongdoing by any of them. We do not know Yet what(If anything) has been found of probitive value.

If a Case is made, then thats the time to prep the pitchforks....
 
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One is the obvious, something to hide. The other, and NEVER discussed, is the responsibility of keeping the branches of government separate. Hey, I am a fanatic about that, but it IS VERY IMPORTANT.
Excellent point SSM ... and President Clinton felt much the same way in his six (6) uses of Executive Privilege as President Bush does on the issue. In fact, President Bush's first of three (3) uses of Executive Privilege was to protect ... the Clinton Presidency against a Republican Congress's subpoena. Amazing world, isn't it?
 
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Interesting RS1, I note your link mentions a Democratic State Rep being raided as well


Get rid of that rep then. I believe in starting to clean house in your own house first.
-Well, first I'd say a Search Warrant isnt evidence of wrongdoing by any of them. We do not know Yet what(If anything) has been found of probitive value.

If a Case is made, then thats the time to prep the pitchforks....


I guess the same applies to 90 grand in the freezer Jefferson to then huh? After all Jefferson might have just wanted to put his money somewhere easy for him to remember. After all not everyone has a man sized safe in their office like Old Dick (Dead Eye) Cheney does. Wink
 
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One is the obvious, something to hide. The other, and NEVER discussed, is the responsibility of keeping the branches of government separate. Hey, I am a fanatic about that, but it IS VERY IMPORTANT.
Excellent point SSM ... and President Clinton felt much the same way in his six (6) uses of Executive Privilege as President Bush does on the issue. In fact, President Bush's first of three (3) uses of Executive Privilege was to protect ... the Clinton Presidency against a Republican Congress's subpoena. Amazing world, isn't it?


I'm for being able to investigate ALL CROOKS no matter what job they hold.
 
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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:
Believe it or not RS, there are SOME of us who don't care what political party you of of, and believe that if you have done something illegal, you should be punished.

And I personally think that if you are an elected official at ANY level and are found guilty of a crime, that your punishment should be HARSHER than the average Joe. Again, too whom much is given, much is, and should be, required.

There are SOME of us who think AMERICA should come first, not a political party. Translation, we are NOT political hacks.

There are SOME of us who think integrity is lacking in BOTH parties, and that BOTH should be particularly careful about calling the kettle black.

YOU are NOT a member of that group.

I say throw the book at him.


Mom I’m all for getting rid of all corrupt politicians and if the Bush Admin would honor some of congress subpoenas I think we could get a real good start on cleaning up our government.

I remember a 2000 campaign slogan of "Restoring Honor and Integrity to the White House" well it’s now 2007 and so far that hasn’t happened.
Well you have to give him some credit... to the best of our knowledge no one has yet to give him an extramarital B.J. yet.

Not certain if that is indicative of anything or not… Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by RetiredSailor1:
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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:
Believe it or not RS, there are SOME of us who don't care what political party you of of, and believe that if you have done something illegal, you should be punished.

And I personally think that if you are an elected official at ANY level and are found guilty of a crime, that your punishment should be HARSHER than the average Joe. Again, too whom much is given, much is, and should be, required.

There are SOME of us who think AMERICA should come first, not a political party. Translation, we are NOT political hacks.

There are SOME of us who think integrity is lacking in BOTH parties, and that BOTH should be particularly careful about calling the kettle black.

YOU are NOT a member of that group.

I say throw the book at him.


Mom I’m all for getting rid of all corrupt politicians and if the Bush Admin would honor some of congress subpoenas I think we could get a real good start on cleaning up our government.

I remember a 2000 campaign slogan of "Restoring Honor and Integrity to the White House" well it’s now 2007 and so far that hasn’t happened.


I believe that Bush was referring specifically to the Oval Office or some other particular room. . . the scene of Clinton's trysts with Ms. Lewinsky.

And look, about the subpoenas. . . there are TWO possible reasons for not complying with subpoenas, NOT ONE.

One is the obvious, something to hide. The other, and NEVER discussed, is the responsibility of keeping the branches of government separate. Hey, I am a fanatic about that, but it IS VERY IMPORTANT.

The INSTITUTIONS involved here, and their continued separation, is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than the alleged misdeeds of any sitting president, and the oppositions attempt to embarrass him. Those misdeeds will leave when he does, however, the INSTITUTION will remain forever. It MUST be protected. I suppose you could say something like it is a higher, . . . good, . . . or ??? Nevertheless, THAT is the reason America doesn't look like Iraq or Haiti every election cycle.

No, ma'am, he wasn't.
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During the year and a half that I covered George W. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign, I must have heard his stump speech a thousand times. The lines changed little over the months, and the ending almost never changed -- Bush would raise his hand, as if taking an oath, and promise to restore honor and dignity to the White House.

He also vowed to restore civility to the poisonous atmosphere of the nation's capital, declaring at a GOP fundraiser in April 2000 that "it's time to clean up the toxic environment in Washington, D.C."

A few months later, Bush told voters at a campaign event in Pittsburgh that his administration would "ask not only what is legal but what is right, not what the lawyers allow but what the public deserves."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...005101800410_pf.html
If you insist that I dig out the original speeches to link to, I will ... but I am confident those are correct quotes.

I don't know how well you know me, but I am also concerned about the separation of powers, among other Constitutional issues ... but unlike you, I find the executive branch's ambition towards a "unitary executive", real enough to be quoted by officials in that branch as a legal theory, a greater threat to that separation of powers than Congressional subpoenas and oversight. Cool
 
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Stevens house looks like a shack compared to the houses of gore and edwards. I guess I'm a little surprised that he lives in such a meager and humble dwelling.


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Ah, Senator Stevens, the guy who thundered on the floor of the senate that other senators who voted against his pork (with projects that personally benefitted his family) were "stealing" from the good citizens of Alaska.

I hope he goes down. He's always been my least favorite senator. That's saying a lot considering the company of toads like the senators from Massachussets.
 
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I guess the same applies to 90 grand in the freezer Jefferson to then huh? After all Jefferson might have just wanted to put his money somewhere easy for him to remember. After all not everyone has a man sized safe in their office like Old Dick (Dead Eye) Cheney does.
His marked money, given to him by the feds

Roll Eyes
 
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Stevens house looks like a shack compared to the houses of gore and edwards. I guess I'm a little surprised that he lives in such a meager and humble dwelling.


He lives in Alaska ... heating something the size of Edward's place would take the whole pipeline. Cool
 
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If Stevens Jr or Sr are guilty of kick backs they should fry. I just don't understand what a 80 something year old man was in need of more money. I am waiting for the outcome of the warrents.
 
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