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Originally posted by Grachus:

Somehow in some bizzare manner, every piece of $hit dictator becomes another Hitler. Tell me where ANY Iranian is advocating conquering the world? Where are their racial laws, their Nuremberg laws?

Sort of like Milosovic "had to be stopped, he's another Hitler," when the only genocide going on in Yugoslavia was against the Serbs.

So Alminajad, is a powerless figure head with a big mouth. Will he get nukes? Maybe. Nice thing about being a super power is that we can take him out anytime we want. With our intelligence services telling us he has NO weapons program, naturally it's time to listen to the calls of Israel, who are busy practicing their own brand of Aparthied - and for that matter are in violations of the treaties banning nukes.

But it's ok that they violated the treaty. As we've learned treaties mean nothing to us.

What a message to send to the world. Bomb Iran for violating the same treaty that Israel violates?

Or are we bombing them because of rumors that the Iraninan government is sending in arms, while arms cross the border from Saudi Arabia all the time. Those arms don't count because that border is long and thinly patrolled, while the border with Iran - is what? Ten miles? A thousand?

As for my complaining about Panzermeister - Damn right - He has a right to defend Israel, and defend Israels postion. That doesn't mean I have to listen to lectures on why HIS interests should be protected by our men and money.

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:


Who the hell is an Israeli to tell us what or what not to do? They wouldn't even have a military if we didn't pick up the tab -

We've given them almost a 100 billion dollars in aid, and he's going to lecture us?

It's going to be OUR men and woman who pay the cost of a wrong decision in Iran.

During the Iraq/Iran war, Israel made good money by selling arms to BOTH sides...

Now he's telling us our interests? Spare me...

Dave

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Originally posted by 6486143:
Careful Davey...your old hatred of Jews is showing....

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Hey, I know, lets let Iran nuke our troops, then we won't have to worry about it at all.
We can just start a draft, that no one here will support, and start all over with new men, tanks, rifles, ammunition, uniforms, boots, medical equipment, the whole thing. OOOOPS, no wait a minute, we are in hock to the PRC, we no longer have the majority of our heavy industries, they've been off shored and we depend on the PRC for our boots, uniforms and guess what, a large percentage of the soap, laundry and bath, tooth paste, toilet paper and sundries needed to support an army, then this year, we, for the first time, will be importing grain and other food stuffs we no longer raise. You know, stuff that has to come on foreign flagged merchant men, who will have to face Hugo's Russian built submarines. Yeah, we got no reason to prevent the Iranians from developing a "nuke". Gee though, they did say that they wanted to destroy Israel and the west, though didn't they...
Just like Hitler laid out his plans in Mein Kampf and no one would believe, that Mr. Hitler wanted to do the things that he wrote in his book. Yup, Mr. Chamberlain was right, "Peace in our time!"...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Somehow in some bizzare manner, every piece of $hit dictator becomes another Hitler. Tell me where ANY Iranian is advocating conquering the world? Where are their racial laws, their Nuremberg laws?

Sort of like Milosovic "had to be stopped, he's another Hitler," when the only genocide going on in Yugoslavia was against the Serbs. Is not it enough?

So Alminajad, is a powerless figure head with a big mouth. Will he get nukes? Maybe. Nice thing about being a super power is that we can take him out anytime we want. Really? Like you can North Korea? Give me a break. With our intelligence services telling us he has NO weapons program, naturally it's time to listen to the calls of Israel A country which has a suspicious record of fighting for its existence for the last 60 years, and is being threatened on daily basis , who are busy practicing their own brand of Apartheid - and for that matter are in violations of the treaties banning nukes.

But it's ok that they violated the treaty. As we've learned treaties mean nothing to us.

What a message to send to the world. Bomb Iran for violating the same treaty that Israel violates? No, bomb Iran for Sponsoring Global terror.

Or are we bombing them because of rumors Rumors??? that the Iranian government is sending in arms, while arms cross the border from Saudi Arabia all the time And thats making Iranian support ok, i presume . Those arms don't count because that border is long and thinly patrolled, while the border with Iran - is what? Ten miles? A thousand?

As for my complaining about Panzermeister - Damn right - He has a right to defend Israel, and defend Israels position. That doesn't mean I have to listen to lectures on why HIS interests should be protected by our men and money. Thats because it is your interest too, besides i talk about a joint strike.

Dave

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Originally posted by PanzerMeister:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Hey, I know, lets let Iran nuke our troops, then we won't have to worry about it at all.
We can just start a draft, that no one here will support, and start all over with new men, tanks, rifles, ammunition, uniforms, boots, medical equipment, the whole thing. OOOOPS, no wait a minute, we are in hock to the PRC, we no longer have the majority of our heavy industries, they've been off shored and we depend on the PRC for our boots, uniforms and guess what, a large percentage of the soap, laundry and bath, tooth paste, toilet paper and sundries needed to support an army, then this year, we, for the first time, will be importing grain and other food stuffs we no longer raise. You know, stuff that has to come on foreign flagged merchant men, who will have to face Hugo's Russian built submarines. Yeah, we got no reason to prevent the Iranians from developing a "nuke". Gee though, they did say that they wanted to destroy Israel and the west, though didn't they...
Just like Hitler laid out his plans in Mein Kampf and no one would believe, that Mr. Hitler wanted to do the things that he wrote in his book. Yup, Mr. Chamberlain was right, "Peace in our time!"...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Somehow in some bizzare manner, every piece of $hit dictator becomes another Hitler. Tell me where ANY Iranian is advocating conquering the world? Where are their racial laws, their Nuremberg laws?

Sort of like Milosovic "had to be stopped, he's another Hitler," when the only genocide going on in Yugoslavia was against the Serbs. Is not it enough?

So Alminajad, is a powerless figure head with a big mouth. Will he get nukes? Maybe. Nice thing about being a super power is that we can take him out anytime we want. Really? Like you can North Korea? Give me a break. With our intelligence services telling us he has NO weapons program, naturally it's time to listen to the calls of Israel A country which has a suspicious record of fighting for its existence for the last 60 years, and is being threatened on daily basis , who are busy practicing their own brand of Apartheid - and for that matter are in violations of the treaties banning nukes.

But it's ok that they violated the treaty. As we've learned treaties mean nothing to us.

What a message to send to the world. Bomb Iran for violating the same treaty that Israel violates? No, bomb Iran for Sponsoring Global terror.

Or are we bombing them because of rumors Rumors??? that the Iranian government is sending in arms, while arms cross the border from Saudi Arabia all the time And thats making Iranian support ok, i presume . Those arms don't count because that border is long and thinly patrolled, while the border with Iran - is what? Ten miles? A thousand?

As for my complaining about Panzermeister - Damn right - He has a right to defend Israel, and defend Israels position. That doesn't mean I have to listen to lectures on why HIS interests should be protected by our men and money. Thats because it is your interest too, besides i talk about a joint strike.

Dave

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Originally posted by Ol_Doc:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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Originally posted by Ol_Doc:

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Originally posted by PanzerMeister:
I would like to hear your reply when Iran will have nuclear arms. Is Nuclear Iran your interest too?

While you may feel somewhat righteous, i would like to remind you, that if we (Israel and USA) will attack Iran, Israel will have a war with Syria and Hizballah as well, so we are also in it, despite your claims to the contrary.

While we may have sold weapons to both sides, did you think that maybe we wanted BOTH sides to loose?

How exactly your aid disqualifies me from saying what your interest is? I am not the only one that says it, so my opinion is well grounded in a significant portion of USA populace as well as in simple logic. Ayatollah+bomb=Boom.

So, with the strong tie between Iran and the Shia in Iraq, the US should just bomb Iran and expect no repercussions? The Iranians will respect the Iraqi border and the Iraqi Shia will simply file a formal protest with the US Ambassador? Perhaps we can reinforce the Iranian border with 350,000 to 450,000 fresh American troops to provide a buffer? While at the same time borrow a few hundred billion more from the Peoples Republic of China to fund it? Maybe we can bring back Donald Rumsfeld to provide our planning.

Hey, I know, lets let Iran nuke our troops, then we won't have to worry about it at all.
We can just start a draft, that no one here will support, and start all over with new men, tanks, rifles, ammunition, uniforms, boots, medical equipment, the whole thing. OOOOPS, no wait a minute, we are in hock to the PRC, we no longer have the majority of our heavy industries, they've been off shored and we depend on the PRC for our boots, uniforms and guess what, a large percentage of the soap, laundry and bath, tooth paste, toilet paper and sundries needed to support an army, then this year, we, for the first time, will be importing grain and other food stuffs we no longer raise. You know, stuff that has to come on foreign flagged merchant men, who will have to face Hugo's Russian built submarines. Yeah, we got no reason to prevent the Iranians from developing a "nuke". Gee though, they did say that they wanted to destroy Israel and the west, though didn't they...
Just like Hitler laid out his plans in Mein Kampf and no one would believe, that Mr. Hitler wanted to do the things that he wrote in his book. Yup, Mr. Chamberlain was right, "Peace in our time!"...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

You're hysterical...no really hysterical. The Iranians may, one day sometime in the future, have a nuke. We have how many? Let's try a little rational thought for a change. If we get nuked, it won't be a soveregn country that does it. It will be a shadowy group that probably bought the nuclear material from some former member of the Soviet block. This was just the sort of thing Valerie Plame and her team were tracking before she was outed by this administration for political gain. So which is the most likely scenario, Iran with a few bombs in the distant future launching a nuclear strike against the preeminent nuclear power in the world, or the shadowy figures obtaining nuclear material while we weren’t watching? Who is really being naive here?
If it makes you feel better sounding the alarm, knock yourself out. Just don’t ask the rest of us to buy off on the “smoking gun in the shape of a mushroom cloud” again.

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Hey, I know, lets let Iran nuke our troops, then we won't have to worry about it at all.
We can just start a draft, that no one here will support, and start all over with new men, tanks, rifles, ammunition, uniforms, boots, medical equipment, the whole thing. OOOOPS, no wait a minute, we are in hock to the PRC, we no longer have the majority of our heavy industries, they've been off shored and we depend on the PRC for our boots, uniforms and guess what, a large percentage of the soap, laundry and bath, tooth paste, toilet paper and sundries needed to support an army, then this year, we, for the first time, will be importing grain and other food stuffs we no longer raise. You know, stuff that has to come on foreign flagged merchant men, who will have to face Hugo's Russian built submarines. Yeah, we got no reason to prevent the Iranians from developing a "nuke". Gee though, they did say that they wanted to destroy Israel and the west, though didn't they...
Just like Hitler laid out his plans in Mein Kampf and no one would believe, that Mr. Hitler wanted to do the things that he wrote in his book. Yup, Mr. Chamberlain was right, "Peace in our time!"...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Somehow in some bizzare manner, every piece of $hit dictator becomes another Hitler. Tell me where ANY Iranian is advocating conquering the world? Where are their racial laws, their Nuremberg laws?

Sort of like Milosovic "had to be stopped, he's another Hitler," when the only genocide going on in Yugoslavia was against the Serbs.

So Alminajad, is a powerless figure head with a big mouth. Will he get nukes? Maybe. Nice thing about being a super power is that we can take him out anytime we want. With our intelligence services telling us he has NO weapons program, naturally it's time to listen to the calls of Israel, who are busy practicing their own brand of Aparthied - and for that matter are in violations of the treaties banning nukes.

But it's ok that they violated the treaty. As we've learned treaties mean nothing to us.

What a message to send to the world. Bomb Iran for violating the same treaty that Israel violates?

Or are we bombing them because of rumors that the Iraninan government is sending in arms, while arms cross the border from Saudi Arabia all the time. Those arms don't count because that border is long and thinly patrolled, while the border with Iran - is what? Ten miles? A thousand?

As for my complaining about Panzermeister - Damn right - He has a right to defend Israel, and defend Israels postion. That doesn't mean I have to listen to lectures on why HIS interests should be protected by our men and money.

Dave

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:
Whatever, they want to hit Iran so be it...Israel will not have one inch of its land left unscorched by sucide bombers, rockets, missiles and pools of blood...

While here in Los Angeles i'll be at the beach...

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You should have asked, how many of us will die, if we don't do something about a group of religious despots who have proclaimed to the world, that it is their goal to bring about the final battle of the world, so that the 12th Imam can return and bring about the return of Allah on the planet.

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Hope you got a suntan lotion with an SPF of 65 billion...

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Originally posted by godawgz:
I would just be happy to see all those EFPs we're pulling out of caches in Iraq somehow mysteriously start going off along roads on the Iranian side of the border.. damn...wonder how those got there.. they were made in Iran..prob'ly never left the country...

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:

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You should have asked, how many of us will die, if we don't do something about a group of religious despots who have proclaimed to the world, that it is their goal to bring about the final battle of the world, so that the 12th Imam can return and bring about the return of Allah on the planet.

LOL...Because only muslims belive in the end of the world. Stop shoveling this crap, if you think for one second that Christians, Jews and Muslims in all governments do not belive they are "Doing gods work" you are lost to say the least....

Something terrible must happen for the US To fall and allow the world government to form, I have a feeling it will be related to Israel...No way to stop it if you belive in the book of revelation so, atleast i'm not in ground zero

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Hope you got a suntan lotion with an SPF of 65 billion...

Like I said i'll be at the beach, enjoying myself....All the paranoid rants and fear mongering from Israel mean next to nothing to me.

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:

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You should have asked, how many of us will die, if we don't do something about a group of religious despots who have proclaimed to the world, that it is their goal to bring about the final battle of the world, so that the 12th Imam can return and bring about the return of Allah on the planet.

LOL...Because only muslims belive in the end of the world. Stop shoveling this crap, if you think for one second that Christians, Jews and Muslims in all governments do not belive they are "Doing gods work" you are lost to say the least....

Something terrible must happen for the US To fall and allow the world government to form, I have a feeling it will be related to Israel...No way to stop it if you belive in the book of revelation so, atleast i'm not in ground zero

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Hope you got a suntan lotion with an SPF of 65 billion...

Like I said i'll be at the beach, enjoying myself....All the paranoid rants and fear mongering from Israel mean next to nothing to me.

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Sometimes people will ignore the obvious, just to be stupid and obnoxious...

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Originally posted by popsiq:
On May 2 1964 the Viet Cong sunk an American Carrier (USS Card) in the Saigon River.

Starting a war with Iran might just get another one, or two, sunk in the Persian Gulf.

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:

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Sometimes people will ignore the obvious, just to be stupid and obnoxious...

I wish the Pro-Attack Iran for Israels defense Crowd were just stupid and obnoxious. However they are dangerous and reckless, and I see no reason for innocent people in America to suffer because of how they view the world....

The only Nation in the Middle East with Nuclear Weapons is Israel. I'm more worried about them launching a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran than I do about Iran obtaining Nucler power(Not sure if there is a shred of evidence that they have an actual weapons program)

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:

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Sometimes people will ignore the obvious, just to be stupid and obnoxious...

I wish the Pro-Attack Iran for Israels defense Crowd were just stupid and obnoxious. However they are dangerous and reckless, and I see no reason for innocent people in America to suffer because of how they view the world....

The only Nation in the Middle East with Nuclear Weapons is Israel. I'm more worried about them launching a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran than I do about Iran obtaining Nucler power(Not sure if there is a shred of evidence that they have an actual weapons program)