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Yes, i do belong to the type of people that when they see someone that threatens them, and supports some goons to do the dirty work for him (Hizballah), they tend to take him seriously. My type of people will even go and ask for a gun permit. You may call it paranoia, I call it survival.

In light of the facts that in the last 17+ years
i have witnessed constant attempt at my/other Israelis lives, my suspicion is a virtue rather than a vice.

Here is the thing, YOUR problems, YOUR fears, YOUR paranoia has WHAT exactly to do with the United States?

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Originally posted by Squizzer:

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Originally posted by Brest1944:

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wow even from iranian news source...

Did you realize it was an opponent website ?

Think he missed one of those small but telling clues?

No wonder they keep them all wrapped up in Burkhas... Surely Iranians can't be all that bad?

Dave

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Yes, i do belong to the type of people that when they see someone that threatens them, and supports some goons to do the dirty work for him (Hizballah), they tend to take him seriously. My type of people will even go and ask for a gun permit. You may call it paranoia, I call it survival.

In light of the facts that in the last 17+ years
i have witnessed constant attempt at my/other Israelis lives, my suspicion is a virtue rather than a vice.

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:
Here is the thing, YOUR problems, YOUR fears, YOUR paranoia has WHAT exactly to do with the United States?

This is something Panzer simply can't grasp...

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

Deny much do you?...
Don't pretend to be above everyone in your intellect much do you?
Can't deal with the facts of history, can you?
Ah, to be an intellectual, so adroit, so trite, so adept at mental gymnastics, so above reproach!...
You are just so...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Your argument consists of saying that Hitler was really a leftist, because YOU say he was a Leftist.

I found the entire quote I was looking for:

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"Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of his nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, Deutschland, Deutschland, über Alles, to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land, land and people -- that man is a Socialist."

Adolph Hitler

Sounds just like Marx...

Now having failed to prove your point, you are doing what I've never done - Make fun of my opponenents intelligence.

Now I'm a Boiler Mechanic, that automatically means I'm more intelligent than you?

But I sure as hell have read more than you - At least on THIS subject.

I've never called Mr. Bush or Mr. Cheney Fascists. You bet I am insulted that you imply that my views and the views of Hitler and Mussolini are similar.

I will say one thing. And that is that ANY dictatorship, whatever the ideology, sooner or later resemble each other more than any thing else. This is because, dictatorships have a greater goal than implementing an ideology - They adapt the primary goal of staying in power.

China went from being a Communist Dictatorship, to a Fascist Dictatorship without anyone even noticing, or apparently caring to much.

Dave

Ah, excuse me! Did you read the quote? YOU made my point, Hitler says that man is a SOCIALIST!
Socialism is left, it always has been, it's just as I said, Hitler was a SOCIALIST, in fact, A NATIONAL SOCIALIST!...
Thanks for making my point for me...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Yes, i do belong to the type of people that when they see someone that threatens them, and supports some goons to do the dirty work for him (Hizballah), they tend to take him seriously. My type of people will even go and ask for a gun permit. You may call it paranoia, I call it survival.

In light of the facts that in the last 17+ years
i have witnessed constant attempt at my/other Israelis lives, my suspicion is a virtue rather than a vice.

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Originally posted by Aco275RGR:
Here is the thing, YOUR problems, YOUR fears, YOUR paranoia has WHAT exactly to do with the United States?

This is something Panzer simply can't grasp...

Dave

Ah, 09-11-01, I think that has just a little something to do with us. So since Panzermeister deals with it every day of his and his families lives, terrorism, we shouldn't listen to the man? We shouldn't listen to what the Israelis say? I go back to my post about the man standing there with the seat of his pants on fire.
A man comes running up with an extinguisher and offers to help put your hind end out, you don't argue with him and tell him that you are not on fire and that the warm feeling in the seat of your pants and the smell is from someone bar-b-queing...
You can't argue with history, terrorism is real, Hitler was a NATIONAL SOCIALIST, the Israelis deal with terrorism on a daily basis, Iran is a violent jihadist[sp?] state, they want to destroy Israel and the United States and have said so to the world! If you wish to bury your heads in the sand and say that you are safe, remember, that burying your head, leaves your rear end, in the perfect position to be kicked and you won't even see it coming!
Hitler, not a National Socialist?!
HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Ah, excuse me! Did you read the quote? YOU made my point, Hitler says that man is a SOCIALIST!
Socialism is left, it always has been, it's just as I said, Hitler was a SOCIALIST, in fact, A NATIONAL SOCIALIST!...
Thanks for making my point for me...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

I thought you were a good clean living American?

The Hitler quote makes your point? Hitler just defined HIS idea of what Socialism is. You care to post from Marx, (or anyone else who is a Socialist) that says anything like that?

You know, "Workers of the world Unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains?"

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"Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of his nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, Deutschland, Deutschland, über Alles, to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land, land and people -- that man is a Socialist."

Adolph Hitler

What are you thinking?

Hitler was asked to explain the "Socialist" in National Socialism. So he redefined it to match the nature of Fascism. There's NOTHING Socialist in that explanation.

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Ah, excuse me! Did you read the quote? YOU made my point, Hitler says that man is a SOCIALIST!
Socialism is left, it always has been, it's just as I said, Hitler was a SOCIALIST, in fact, A NATIONAL SOCIALIST!...
Thanks for making my point for me...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

I thought you were a good clean living American?

The Hitler quote makes your point? Hitler just defined HIS idea of what Socialism is. You care to post from Marx, (or anyone else who is a Socialist) that says anything like that?

You know, "Workers of the world Unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains?"

quote:

"Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of his nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, Deutschland, Deutschland, über Alles, to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land, land and people -- that man is a Socialist."

Adolph Hitler

What are you thinking?

Hitler was asked to explain the "Socialist" in National Socialism. So he redefined it to match the nature of Fascism. There's NOTHING Socialist in that explanation.

Dave

Ah, you don't have an understanding of socialism, if you think that that isn't a definition of socialism! Socialism is the root behind fascism. IT WAS FOUNDED BY A SOCIALIST, BENITO MUSSOLINI...
C'mon Dave, wake up and smell the coffee!
Stop trying to fool the world, we've, well some of us, have been around long enough to know the difference and have studied enough to know when history is trying to be rewritten...
Socialism/communism has been a bane on the world, since their inceptions, only the intellectually vapid and elitist, still think that they are valid systems. I once spoke with a man who was a pioneer member of Communist Party USA and had left it. He told me that the difference between the socialist and the communist is, "The communist is the strong arm of the socialist."...
Socialism is the way of force, fascism, it's ultimate manifestation, for the good of the state, the rights of the individual are sacrificed...
Those, are the words of socialists since the establishment of the philosophy...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Ah, you don't have an understanding of socialism, if you think that that isn't a definition of socialism! Socialism is the root behind fascism. IT WAS FOUNDED BY A SOCIALIST, BENITO MUSSOLINI...
C'mon Dave, wake up and smell the coffee!
Stop trying to fool the world, we've, well some of us, have been around long enough to know the difference and have studied enough to know when history is trying to be rewritten...
Socialism/communism has been a bane on the world, since their inceptions, only the intellectually vapid and elitist, still think that they are valid systems. I once spoke with a man who was a pioneer member of Communist Party USA and had left it. He told me that the difference between the socialist and the communist is, "The communist is the strong arm of the socialist."...
Socialism is the way of force, fascism, it's ultimate manifestation, for the good of the state, the rights of the individual are sacrificed...
Those, are the words of socialists since the establishment of the philosophy...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Ahh, I see now. I can define Neocons as leftist Socialist Communists, Bush is a Marxist, Al Gore is a member of the vegetarian party, and the American Revolution was an Islamic plot to get rid of the Anglican Church.

It's all clear to me now.

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Ah, you don't have an understanding of socialism, if you think that that isn't a definition of socialism! Socialism is the root behind fascism. IT WAS FOUNDED BY A SOCIALIST, BENITO MUSSOLINI...
C'mon Dave, wake up and smell the coffee!
Stop trying to fool the world, we've, well some of us, have been around long enough to know the difference and have studied enough to know when history is trying to be rewritten...
Socialism/communism has been a bane on the world, since their inceptions, only the intellectually vapid and elitist, still think that they are valid systems. I once spoke with a man who was a pioneer member of Communist Party USA and had left it. He told me that the difference between the socialist and the communist is, "The communist is the strong arm of the socialist."...
Socialism is the way of force, fascism, it's ultimate manifestation, for the good of the state, the rights of the individual are sacrificed...
Those, are the words of socialists since the establishment of the philosophy...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Ahh, I see now. I can define Neocons as leftist Socialist Communists, Bush is a Marxist, Al Gore is a member of the vegetarian party, and the American Revolution was an Islamic plot to get rid of the Anglican Church.

It's all clear to me now.

Dave

Well oakey doakey, if ya'll say so...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Ah, you don't have an understanding of socialism, if you think that that isn't a definition of socialism! Socialism is the root behind fascism. IT WAS FOUNDED BY A SOCIALIST, BENITO MUSSOLINI...
C'mon Dave, wake up and smell the coffee!
Stop trying to fool the world, we've, well some of us, have been around long enough to know the difference and have studied enough to know when history is trying to be rewritten...
Socialism/communism has been a bane on the world, since their inceptions, only the intellectually vapid and elitist, still think that they are valid systems. I once spoke with a man who was a pioneer member of Communist Party USA and had left it. He told me that the difference between the socialist and the communist is, "The communist is the strong arm of the socialist."...
Socialism is the way of force, fascism, it's ultimate manifestation, for the good of the state, the rights of the individual are sacrificed...
Those, are the words of socialists since the establishment of the philosophy...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Ahh, I see now. I can define Neocons as leftist Socialist Communists, Bush is a Marxist, Al Gore is a member of the vegetarian party, and the American Revolution was an Islamic plot to get rid of the Anglican Church.

It's all clear to me now.

Dave

Well oakey doakey, if ya'll say so...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Yeah, you gotta remember that George Washington (and most of the other Founders) was once a loyal servant of the King. Could it be, could it just be, that he altered his entire ideology over time?

Naah! He always a Monarchist, and the Constitution has a King, and a Vice King, whom we call the Queen of the Senate...

It says so somewhere... ? I'll find a link and get back to you.

Dave

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by SUNLINER81:


Ah, you don't have an understanding of socialism, if you think that that isn't a definition of socialism! Socialism is the root behind fascism. IT WAS FOUNDED BY A SOCIALIST, BENITO MUSSOLINI...
C'mon Dave, wake up and smell the coffee!
Stop trying to fool the world, we've, well some of us, have been around long enough to know the difference and have studied enough to know when history is trying to be rewritten...
Socialism/communism has been a bane on the world, since their inceptions, only the intellectually vapid and elitist, still think that they are valid systems. I once spoke with a man who was a pioneer member of Communist Party USA and had left it. He told me that the difference between the socialist and the communist is, "The communist is the strong arm of the socialist."...
Socialism is the way of force, fascism, it's ultimate manifestation, for the good of the state, the rights of the individual are sacrificed...
Those, are the words of socialists since the establishment of the philosophy...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Ahh, I see now. I can define Neocons as leftist Socialist Communists, Bush is a Marxist, Al Gore is a member of the vegetarian party, and the American Revolution was an Islamic plot to get rid of the Anglican Church.

It's all clear to me now.

Dave

Well oakey doakey, if ya'll say so...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

Yeah, you gotta remember that George Washington (and most of the other Founders) was once a loyal servant of the King. Could it be, could it just be, that he altered his entire ideology over time?

Naah! He always a Monarchist, and the Constitution has a King, and a Vice King, whom we call the Queen of the Senate...

It says so somewhere... ? I'll find a link and get back to you.

Dave

Oakey b ba doakey!...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

He won't stop Sunliner. He never stops. He just goes on and on and on.

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Originally posted by AngelHeart:
He won't stop Sunliner. He never stops. He just goes on and on and on.

Well, I've been accused of that too...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

At least you make sense.

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Originally posted by AngelHeart:
At least you make sense.

Thanks! I think I love you...
And with that, I think that I'd better shut up and say good night to all you fine folks...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by AngelHeart:
He won't stop Sunliner. He never stops. He just goes on and on and on.

I must say, with all due respect, yours is the cruelest cut of all...

I should complain to the moderators about how you brutally humiliated me, demeaned me, insulted me - And I would, except the poor moderators would die laughing.

Dave

Grachus...you taught me that after one argument with you

Sunliner... Have a good night.

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Originally posted by PanzerMeister:
Squizzer, in Tehran Airport (IMHO) there is a giant poster in several languages, including Hebrew-"Israel must disappear from the map".

Besides, we had recently smuggled several Jews into Israel from Iran. I have talked to some of them, and what they have told contradicts the "nice" image of Ahmi (provided he has it in the first place). Ahmi wants Jews to become dhimmis, in accordance to his crazy beliefs. That what he means. Anti-Zionism rhetoric, is just a masquerade.

That is Imam Khomeini International Airport, the symbol is now (IKA) as displayed on your baggage tag.

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Originally posted by AngelHeart:
Grachus...you taught me that after one argument with you

If in ANY way I personally insulted you, I sincerely apologise.

Here's a little present...



Dave