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(CNN) -- Russia's hopes of international support for its actions in Georgia were dealt a blow Thursday, when an Asian security alliance denounced the use of force and called for respect for every country's territorial integrity, according to reports.

1 of 2 The joint declaration from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, or SCO, left Russia further isolated as pressure mounts over its actions in Georgia.

"The presidents reaffirmed their commitment to the principles of respect for historic and cultural traditions of every country and efforts aimed at preserving the unity of a state and its territorial integrity," the declaration said, The Associated Press reported.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/28/russia.georgia.cold.war/index.html
 
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In a joint statement, the SCO gave their support for Russia's "active role" in resolving the conflict in Georgia by "assisting in peace and cooperation in the region".


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Members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation have signed a declaration in support of Russia's peacekeeping mission in South Ossetia. The member states expressed support for Russia's peacekeeping efforts, but pointed out any solution must be based on the principle of territorial integrity


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DUSHANBE, August 28 (RIA Novosti) - China and the other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) voiced their support on Thursday for Russia's actions in Georgia and South Ossetia following the recent conflict.



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it sure appears the bias and lies produced by CNN were exposed. Its not surprising a western propaganda machine would try and twist a story to suit their views
 
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Note that the one quote used by CNN to justify its headline could equally have been applied to the Georgian onslaught against S. Ossetia. It certainly doesn't cite 'Russia'.

Note, as well, the standard, and fairly accurate use of filler to pad out the truthiness. They do 'know their audience'.

Moronic in its simplicity.
 
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it sure appears the bias and lies produced by CNN were exposed. Its not surprising a western propaganda machine would try and twist a story to suit their views


This whole Georgia affair has illuminated the fact that our supposedly "left" and "right" leaning media is nothing more than two puppets on the respective hands of one puppeteer. Having CNN provide such a spin simply makes it easier for FOX to lean further right, resulting in the overall inertia of public opinion ending up where they both wanted it anyway.

I listen/watch/read 60% NPR/PBS, 20%FOX/NewsMax/Breitbart and 20% international (BBC doesn't count, they are tools too), and the Georgia/Osettia reporting has been the low point of ALL of the US media.

Of course, this condition also applies to our two party system......in spades.

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If the actions of NATO in the Balkans were to be considered a precedent, then not only would Russia's actions in the Caucasus be justified; but so also would be moves to separate Crimea from Ukraine' and Tibet and XinJiang provinces from China; and Kashmir from India. There are numerous other situtations all over the world like this.

Neither the Chinese nor the Indians want to defend the secession of Kosovo, Ossetia, or Abkhazia. I am sure that they sympathize with the Russians; but they don't want to find themselves in the position of defying the popular will in their own restive regions after defending the "right of self-determination" for regions within Russia's "near abroad".

But if the U.S. proceeds in its strategy of encircling Russia with NATO, the Russians have to respond somehow. Consolidating the predominantly Russian-speaking territories into the Russian Federation is preferable to warfare or to acts of war, like blockades, embargoes, and other forms of economic sanctions.
 
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Here is how the English language version of China's Xinhua News agency reported the story:

SCO leaders say no int'l problems can be solved by merely using force

www.chinaview.cn 2008-08-28 20:51:23

SCO issues joint communiqué

DUSHANBE, Aug. 28 (Xinhua) -- Top leaders of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) agreed Thursday that any attempt to solve problems by merely resorting to force could not work and would only hinder a comprehensive settlement of local conflicts.

A comprehensive solution to existing problems can be found only by taking into account the interests of all parties involved and including them all in the negotiation process rather than isolating any of them, said the leaders in a joint declaration issued at the conclusion of their summit in the Tajik capital.

Any attempt to strengthen a country's own security at the expense of that of others is detrimental to maintaining global security and stability, they said.

On the issue of South Ossetia, the SCO members expressed their deep worries over the tense situation triggered by the South Ossetia conflict, and called on relevant parties to solve existing problems peacefully through dialogue, strive for reconciliation and push for negotiations.

The SCO leaders welcomed the six-point proposal on solving the conflict which was reached in Moscow on Aug. 12, expressing their support for Russia's positive role in promoting peace and cooperation in the region.

On the prevention of conflicts, the leaders pledged to abide by the UN Charter and relevant UN Security Council resolutions and basic norms governing international law in the process.

The UN Security Council, which is entrusted with the major responsibility of safeguarding world peace and security, should play a leading role in this regard, they said.

The declaration was signed by Chinese President Hu Jintao, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, Kyrgyz President Kurmanbek Bakiyev, Tajik President Emomali Rakhmon and Uzbek President Islam Karimov.
 
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In a joint statement, the SCO gave their support for Russia's "active role" in resolving the conflict in Georgia by "assisting in peace and cooperation in the region".


BBC


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Members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation have signed a declaration in support of Russia's peacekeeping mission in South Ossetia. The member states expressed support for Russia's peacekeeping efforts, but pointed out any solution must be based on the principle of territorial integrity


RT

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DUSHANBE, August 28 (RIA Novosti) - China and the other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) voiced their support on Thursday for Russia's actions in Georgia and South Ossetia following the recent conflict.



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China and the others "support the active role of Russia in assisting....


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SCO

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LOL! Read the actual statements from the SCO. BTW: Are you of Russian ancestry by any chance? Your support seems at first glance to be rather one sided.

Also, I am just curious as to the reason(s) for your support just as I am interested with Tata's Flanker's, and skytail's reasons.
 
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Read the actual statements from the SCO. BTW: Are you of Russian ancestry by any chance? Your support seems at first glance to be rather one sided.

Also, I am just curious as to the reason(s) for your support just as I am interested with Tata's Flanker's, and skytail's reasons.


No, I am not Russian nor are any of my ancestors....

I don’t “support” Russia, per se; I just detest hypocrisy, active ignorance, double standards & blunt media propaganda displayed by us.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

They also happen to be in the right, this time anyways. Wink

Also, Russian soldiers/peacekeepers were killed! If Serbia tried to retake Kosovo and in the process killed some of our troops, we would literally turn the whole country into a parking lot……

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Read the actual statements from the SCO. BTW: Are you of Russian ancestry by any chance? Your support seems at first glance to be rather one sided.

Also, I am just curious as to the reason(s) for your support just as I am interested with Tata's Flanker's, and skytail's reasons.


No, I am not Russian nor are any of my ancestors....

I don’t “support” Russia, per se; I just detest hypocrisy, active ignorance, double standards & blunt media propaganda displayed by us.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

Also, it just happens that they are in the right, this time.
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Nope... they were not "in the right." sorry...

Still trying to find the actual Joint SCO declaration
 
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Nope... they were not "in the right." sorry... Your opinion

Still trying to find the actual Joint SCO declaration

I'll wait for them to post it on their official website....everything else is spin. Wink


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"Russian peacekeepers"

Now there's an oxymoron!
 
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The member states of the SCO express their deep concern in connection with the recent tension around the issue of South Ossetia, and call on the relevant parties to resolve existing problems in a peaceful way through dialogue, to make efforts for reconciliation and facilitation of negotiations.
The member states of the SCO welcome the approval on 12 August 2008 in Moscow of the six principles of settling the conflict in South Ossetia, and support the active role of Russia in promoting peace and cooperation in the region.


Right down the middle, as expected! Cool

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There can be No defense for our support of an independent Kosovo..to "reward" illegal aliens from Albania with a Serb province is absurd!! But that said.. .there is one consistency in our foreign policy..to support the percieved desires of the populace...we were wrong about the reception democracy would recieve in Iraq..but we thought it would be positive...the overwhelming majority of so-called Kosovars..did want Serbia out..but the majority of Georgians want the Russians out...and say what u will..S. Ossetain irregulars were attacking Georgian territory for months if not years beore the Georgian govt. responded with force..plus the one thing pro-russian voices on this site LOVE to ignore..both S. Ossetia and Abhkazia BOTH have/had??? significant Georgian populations and villages..all now ethnicly "cleansed" by Russia...I thought NATO was a cold war relic..I see now that I was wrong! We must bring the Ukraine,Georgia.Finland and any other nation threaten by Russia into the fold....I still say NO civilan Russian air or ocean traffic into NATO ports untill a complete Russian withdrawal and reparations!!!...AS for Chinese "support" for Russia's postion...yeah..didn't they tell a "previous" incarnation of the Dali Lama that China would respect Tibet's territorial integrity.....good one China..I don't think Putin gets the joke...I thought it was REALLY funny!!!!!!!!!! Wink
 
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