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+http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1121054.html# This message has been edited. Last edited by: NSNN, "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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And after reading this report life goes on day after day while the desert keeps filling up with bodies of those who thought their side was right.
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I think it's like 10 Palestinian bodies for each Israeli body. It's a lot easier for the Israelis since they are well equipped with the most modern military hardware that the US can provide free of charge. Is it any wonder that the Arab world has declared was on the US? Before Israel became our friends, we had no enemies in the Middle East |
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Sure, tell it to the Marines. “to the shores of Tripoli” |
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Totally unacceptable, should be 20-1. This message has been edited. Last edited by: 67NOV, |
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So because the IDF fights better we should cut them off and support the people who for 60 years have been attacking western interests in the name of their religion? Maybe you have no friends, but the US has friends in the middle east besides Israel. |
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I guess you do fight better when you have F-16s opposing those vicious rock-throwing Palestinians who are fighting back against those benevolent Israelis who killed their children and took their property. If the US has friends in the middle east besides Israel, it's because we buy them off. BTW, many Palestinians are (or were) Christians. They are gradually being exterminated by the IDF though. I think it's called genocide. |
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Are you implying that Tripoli is in Middle East? "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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What a load of B.S. Maybe you should sit down and take care of this duece before you get a stomach ache. |
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Tripoli is NOT in the Middle East it is in North Africa and that was a LONG time ago in terms of US history. For example we have had 2 major wars in Europe since then and even fought a war with Britain who is currently our closest ally. |
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And the Israeli's fought better in 1948 when they had Bolt Action rifles and 2 stolen Tanks vs the Arab Armies that were trained, Equipped and in the Arab Legions case Led by the British and still won. And they have kicked azz since because they have the heart for a Stand up fight. And Many Palestinian Christians are being killed by Muslim Palestinians Sparky. Sorry your Hamas PAO position didnt work out. XXXhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22380080/XXX GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Gaza's tiny Christian community is keeping a low profile during Christmas this year, traumatized by the killing of a prominent activist after the Islamic Hamas group's takeover of the coastal territory. Few Christmas trees are on display, churches are holding austere services and hundreds of Christians hope to travel to the West Bank to celebrate the holiday in Bethlehem. Many say they don't plan on returning to Gaza. "We have a very sad Christmas," said Essam Farah, acting pastor of Gaza's Baptist Church, which has canceled its annual children's party because of the grim atmosphere. About 3,000 Christians live in Gaza, an overwhelmingly conservative Muslim society of 1.5 million people. The two religions have generally had cordial relations over the years. That relationship has been shaken since Hamas seized control of Gaza last June, and especially following the recent death of 32-year-old Rami Ayyad. Ayyad, a member of the Baptist Church, managed Gaza's only Christian bookstore and was involved in many charitable activities. He was found shot in the head, his body thrown on a Gaza street in early October, 10 hours after he was kidnapped from the store. Totally amateurish on your part |
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Rock chucking Palestinians are tough hombres |
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The Bush administration added it a few years ago. Ok, Ottoman Empire was part of the Central Powers during WW1, an Enemy. Or is that “too ancient history” as well? |
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+http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8310754.stm "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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No answer to this NSNN? Quelle Surprise..... |
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+http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-10-17-voa19.cfm "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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There's more than one Tripoli, one's in Lebanon and one's in Libya. Either will do for the battle of both were conduct fully or partially from the middle east.
South Lebanon used to be a haven for Christian Arabs totally gone since Hizbullah started the Civil War in the 80's. Personally know some Lebanonese immigrants. It was not Israel that ran them off (killed) The fact of the matter when President Clinton paid ($750,000 comes to mind)for the Israel army to vacate Lebanon the mass take over of the south occurred. Clinton tried every game in the book to bring peace and was short changed by Arafat and company more than once. Then, there is the story of Bethlehem. Once a majority of Palestinian Christians now a fraction. Not because of the Jew, it's not in their land, but the good people that brings you rockets red glare over the holy lands. If I was Palestine kid with an ounce of sense I'd think twice of throwing rocks if the other guy had a .50 caliber facing me. You might check on the authorities in surrounding countries as Jordan, Egypt, Saudi and Lebanon. they spend a ton of money making sure your peaceful Palestinian don't get their hands on any kind of weapons. |
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The Anglo-Zulu War was fought in 1879 between the British Empire and the Zulu Empire. From complex beginnings, the war is notable for several particularly bloody battles, as well as for being a landmark in the timeline of colonialism in the region. The war ended the Zulu nation's independence. +http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Zulu_War "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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+http://jta.org/news/article/2009/10/18/1008574/goldstone-israel-could-stop-report-with-open-inquiry "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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Statement of Colonel Richard Kemp
Thank you, Mr. President. I am the former commander of the British forces in Afghanistan. I served with NATO and the United Nations; commanded troops in Northern Ireland, Bosnia and Macedonia; and participated in the Gulf War. I spent considerable time in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, and worked on international terrorism for the UK Government’s Joint Intelligence Committee. Mr. President, based on my knowledge and experience, I can say this: During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli Defence Forces did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare. Israel did so while facing an enemy that deliberately positioned its military capability behind the human shield of the civilian population. Hamas, like Hizballah, are expert at driving the media agenda. Both will always have people ready to give interviews condemning Israeli forces for war crimes. They are adept at staging and distorting incidents. The IDF faces a challenge that we British do not have to face to the same extent. It is the automatic, Pavlovian presumption by many in the international media, and international human rights groups, that the IDF are in the wrong, that they are abusing human rights. The truth is that the IDF took extraordinary measures to give Gaza civilians notice of targeted areas, dropping over 2 million leaflets, and making over 100,000 phone calls. Many missions that could have taken out Hamas military capability were aborted to prevent civilian casualties. During the conflict, the IDF allowed huge amounts of humanitarian aid into Gaza. To deliver aid virtually into your enemy’s hands is, to the military tactician, normally quite unthinkable. But the IDF took on those risks. Despite all of this, of course innocent civilians were killed. War is chaos and full of mistakes. There have been mistakes by the British, American and other forces in Afghanistan and in Iraq, many of which can be put down to human error. But mistakes are not war crimes. More than anything, the civilian casualties were a consequence of Hamas’ way of fighting. Hamas deliberately tried to sacrifice their own civilians. Mr. President, Israel had no choice apart from defending its people, to stop Hamas from attacking them with rockets. And I say this again: the IDF did more to safeguard the rights of civilians in a combat zone than any other army in the history of warfare. Thank you, Mr. President. XXXhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6vyT8RzMoXXX |
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