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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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The press has been especially brutal to her

Well what do you expect?

How about a little tact and class?

Attacking a person's politics or experience is one thing. Attacking their family is the lowest of the lows, even for the media.

My personal policy is that families are off limits.

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by busnrete8:
But the treatment she got from katie couric

I'm curious about this above comment. Just WHAT did Katie Couric do that was so unfair? Ask her whether the Sun rises in the East?

I mean really, for the life of me, can anyone of you Palin fans tell me what Couric "did" to Palin that was unfair?

Dave

I can't stand Katie Couric, she was on her way out and Palin saved her career, but not for long because even with a second wind she can't stimulate anyone long enough to watch her.

The only thing I don't like more than Couric is that Palin did not hold her own with Couric.

That was embarrassing when Couric was drilling her on McCains votes from the past and Palin was not prepared, then go to commercial break and McCain comes out to cover up.

Not a fine moment for the Reps.

Funny, Couric did not have Biden on and ask him of every vote Obama did.

View attacks McCain and dog piles on him, no bias there, would they have done it to Obama? We wont know because Obama did not come on during that period.

Ellen slams McCain over gay rights, but did not hold it against Mr or Mrs Obama when they appeard three times!

Just a few unfair moments, politics and the media in bed together.

All of this is very nice. But it's "rhetoric."

Did Couric force Palin to be on her show?

Mark this

I keep asking it, but what exactly was unfair?

Dave

You have admitted that you did not see the interview so why not watch it yourself and come to your own conclusion? Until you take the time to educate yourself your "opinion" is no more than what is produced by that other thing that everyone has.

Good point - I didn't make anything up, I asked questions. It turned out you couldn't answer them.

Ok, I've NOW seen the interview. Couric asked no unfair questions. In fact, she didn't particulerly ask difficult questions. Palin was obviously unprepared.

Maybe I should write a long post about how unfair Helen Thomas was to Obamas Press Secretary? (Of course I've have to delete the one I already wrote, supporting her).

This defense of Palin is really kind of pathetic. Was she running for the head of her kindergarten class? If such is the case, Ms. Couric was really a brutal questioner. Six year olds, running for a token job, should be treated gently and kindly - I do believe we expect more from our National Leaders? Well, at least I do...

And really, the only thing you're going to tell me is that if she was a Democrat, Couric wouldn't have been so tough - Which is like saying, Couric would be asking her if she knits sweaters.

Dave

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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The press has been especially brutal to her

Well what do you expect?

How about a little tact and class?

Attacking a person's politics or experience is one thing. Attacking their family is the lowest of the lows, even for the media.

My personal policy is that families are off limits.

Families are off limits unless the candidate brings them into the equation.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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The press has been especially brutal to her

Well what do you expect?

How about a little tact and class?

Attacking a person's politics or experience is one thing. Attacking their family is the lowest of the lows, even for the media.

My personal policy is that families are off limits.

Families are off limits unless the candidate brings them into the equation.

Based on your logic the Obama daughters are now fair game...

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:
Don't want to insult those that insult, but being smug comes easy for you that hasn't a thing in your portfoilio except a Circuit City computer and a loud mouth.

There's not one of you that could go one round with the bias media, DNC (The crap you're spewing) and her own party putting her down. There has to be a jealous in the comments, Mayor, Governor, a family close knit. Somewhere along the way you've been shortchange on life's road and trying to take out your paranoid inversions on a woman. She was never my choice but I live in Florida, Alaskans seemed to approve of her over 70%. She was not my choice in 2008 for VP from a SMALL POPULATION STATE (less than 700,000) her draw was limited at best.

Never have we witness such celebration for an apparent political demise. How pathetic.

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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The press has been especially brutal to her

Well what do you expect?

How about a little tact and class?

Attacking a person's politics or experience is one thing. Attacking their family is the lowest of the lows, even for the media.

My personal policy is that families are off limits.

Families are off limits unless the candidate brings them into the equation.

Based on your logic the Obama daughters are now fair game...

As soon as his children do something to contradict his stated values and he defends that, even tries to glamorize it to a degree, then certainly.
Until then no.
I haven't heard anyone making light of Trig and his situation.
If someone does then I will personally crack their skull.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
What is it about Sarah Palin that those on the left are so fearful of?

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Originally posted by adminnco1: By any rational standard she is an accomplished individual who has risen from obscurity to political leadership without the benefit of a political machine or family wealth.

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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The press has been especially brutal to her

Well what do you expect?

How about a little tact and class?

Attacking a person's politics or experience is one thing. Attacking their family is the lowest of the lows, even for the media.

My personal policy is that families are off limits.

Families are off limits unless the candidate brings them into the equation.
Whether through their stated values (and the accompanying hypocrisy) or outright flaunting of him/them in an attempt to show how "good" they are because they knew the child wasn't "perfect" but decided to keep him anyway.
I would defend your position if she had kept her kids out of the issue by telling everyone that her values are hers and her children aren't reflective of her but are seperate individuals that can and have made mistakes and left them home!
Especially now with an "abstinence tour" that doesn't include taking your baby with you and in essence glamorizes single motherhood to girls in your home state that already has a higher then average teen pregnancy problem.
Too many conflicting messages to be believable.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grachus:

Good point - I didn't make anything up, I asked questions. It turned out you couldn't answer them.

Ok, I've NOW seen the interview. Couric asked no unfair questions. In fact, she didn't particulerly ask difficult questions. Palin was obviously unprepared.

Maybe I should write a long post about how unfair Helen Thomas was to Obamas Press Secretary? (Of course I've have to delete the one I already wrote, supporting her).

This defense of Palin is really kind of pathetic. Was she running for the head of her kindergarten class? If such is the case, Ms. Couric was really a brutal questioner. Six year olds, running for a token job, should be treated gently and kindly - I do believe we expect more from our National Leaders? Well, at least I do...

And really, the only thing you're going to tell me is that if she was a Democrat, Couric wouldn't have been so tough - Which is like saying, Couric would be asking her if she knits sweaters.

Dave

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
So you claim to have seen the interview and perhaps you have, although I must admit that your need to malign one politician is getting more than a little creepy.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
But, be that as it may, the Couric interview was certainly not a stellar moment in the life of Sarah Palin, it was also not the worst interview in history.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
As you may recall from my previous posts, the postmortems of the intereview and the subequent behavior of Couric are all part of the overall evaluation of the interview, but of course you will dispute that.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
The important thing is that you just don't get it. It's not so much Palin that's important but rather it is the casual way that women can be cast as second class citizens whenever it is politically expedient to do so. Calling her "****ty" or a MILF and laughing when a second rate comedian says she should be raped are appalling indictments of the cultural malaise that is crippling America. Of course you will retort with witty observation that I am being overly dramatic or engaging in hyperbole. Perhaps I am, but I would rather maligned by second rate intellects that sink to that level myself.

Personally, I am not at all sure that I would vote for her, but I as sure as hell will defend her right to be treated with some level of decency as her opponent. If you feel otherwise I truly pity you.

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She shot herself over and over again with no help from anyone else. She wasn't running for Mayor, she was running for a really responsible job, what do you mean, "treat her with same level of decency?"

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Originally posted by IHAWKER:
Don’t worry folk’s the continuing soap opera saga of Sarah Palin will not be going away anytime soon. The real reason for her resignation will soon surface and all of this will stay on the front burner for some time to come. There is a lot more to this story than meets the eye. I’m just glad she quit as a governor, imagine what this would be if he had become vice president and decided to resign half a year into the job.

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Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002. The home was built just two months before Palin began campaigning for governor, a job which would have provided her enhanced power to grant building contracts in the wide-open state.

SBS has close ties to the Palins. The company has not only sponsored Todd Palin's snowmobile team, according to the Village Voice's Wayne Barrett, it hired Sarah Palin to do a statewide television commercial in 2004.

Though Todd Palin told Fox News he built his Lake Lucille home with the help of a few "buddies," according to Barrett’s report, public records revealed that SBS supplied the materials for the house. While serving as mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin blocked an initiative that would have required the public filing of building permits—thus momentarily preventing the revelation of such suspicious information.

Just months before Palin left city hall to campaign for lieutenant governor, she awarded a contract to SBS to help build the $13 million Wasilla Sports Complex. The most expensive building project in Wasilla history, the complex cost the city an additional $1.3 million in legal fees and threw it into severe long-term debt. For SBS, however, the bloated and bungled project was a cash cow.

>>>http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-03/did-a-scandal-sink-the-uss-palin/?cid=hp:mainpromo2

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She shot herself over and over again with no help from anyone else. She wasn't running for Mayor, she was running for a really responsible job, what do you mean, "treat her with same level of decency?"

Much as it pains me to say so ... I pretty much agree with what you wrote. While I don't care how you treat HER ... I do care how you treat her family. The sooner Sarah goes away, the happier I will be ... but until she does, those of you that choose to attack/use her family to get at her will have my undying scorn. Classless asses (not you, Dave!) ...

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grachus:

Good point - I didn't make anything up, I asked questions. It turned out you couldn't answer them.

Ok, I've NOW seen the interview. Couric asked no unfair questions. In fact, she didn't particulerly ask difficult questions. Palin was obviously unprepared.

Maybe I should write a long post about how unfair Helen Thomas was to Obamas Press Secretary? (Of course I've have to delete the one I already wrote, supporting her).

This defense of Palin is really kind of pathetic. Was she running for the head of her kindergarten class? If such is the case, Ms. Couric was really a brutal questioner. Six year olds, running for a token job, should be treated gently and kindly - I do believe we expect more from our National Leaders? Well, at least I do...

And really, the only thing you're going to tell me is that if she was a Democrat, Couric wouldn't have been so tough - Which is like saying, Couric would be asking her if she knits sweaters.

Dave

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
So you claim to have seen the interview and perhaps you have, although I must admit that your need to malign one politician is getting more than a little creepy.

It's not rocket science. Go to U-tube. I haven't done it before because I'm not a glutton for punishment. I've already banged the gong on you, writing in my complaint, "Adminnco1 took a gun to my head and MADE me waste 15 miutes of my life. I want retribution - ban him!"

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
But, be that as it may, the Couric interview was certainly not a stellar moment in the life of Sarah Palin, it was also not the worst interview in history.

Yup, I expected worse.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
As you may recall from my previous posts, the postmortems of the intereview and the subequent behavior of Couric are all part of the overall evaluation of the interview, but of course you will dispute that.

The "talking heads" are with us. There's something in the Bible about that.

Look, whenever Ms. Palin was caught unprepared her remarks were WORSE then this interview. You can't get away from that reality. Any American HAS to ask the hard question of whether shes prepared to be the leader of our Nation. Talking heads, or no talking heads, she answered that herself, and in the negative.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
The important thing is that you just don't get it. It's not so much Palin that's important but rather it is the casual way that women can be cast as second class citizens whenever it is politically expedient to do so. Calling her "****ty" or a MILF and laughing when a second rate comedian says she should be raped are appalling indictments of the cultural malaise that is crippling America. Of course you will retort with witty observation that I am being overly dramatic or engaging in hyperbole. Perhaps I am, but I would rather maligned by second rate intellects that sink to that level myself.

Personally, I am not at all sure that I would vote for her, but I as sure as hell will defend her right to be treated with some level of decency as her opponent. If you feel otherwise I truly pity you.

Come on man, she's a big girl, she willingly entered the contest; no one forced her to be in this spot. Sure they made fun of her, if some of the fun, was improper, goes with the territory. If we remove all the improper remarks, she's still in negative territory.

She shot herself over and over again with no help from anyone else. She wasn't running for Mayor, she was running for a really responsible job, what do you mean, "treat her with same level of decency?"

People shouldn't notice?

Dave

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grachus:

Good point - I didn't make anything up, I asked questions. It turned out you couldn't answer them.

Ok, I've NOW seen the interview. Couric asked no unfair questions. In fact, she didn't particulerly ask difficult questions. Palin was obviously unprepared.

Maybe I should write a long post about how unfair Helen Thomas was to Obamas Press Secretary? (Of course I've have to delete the one I already wrote, supporting her).

This defense of Palin is really kind of pathetic. Was she running for the head of her kindergarten class? If such is the case, Ms. Couric was really a brutal questioner. Six year olds, running for a token job, should be treated gently and kindly - I do believe we expect more from our National Leaders? Well, at least I do...

And really, the only thing you're going to tell me is that if she was a Democrat, Couric wouldn't have been so tough - Which is like saying, Couric would be asking her if she knits sweaters.

Dave

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
So you claim to have seen the interview and perhaps you have, although I must admit that your need to malign one politician is getting more than a little creepy.

It's not rocket science. Go to U-tube. I haven't done it before because I'm not a glutton for punishment. I've already banged the gong on you, writing in my complaint, "Adminnco1 took a gun to my head and MADE me waste 15 miutes of my life. I want retribution - ban him!"

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
But, be that as it may, the Couric interview was certainly not a stellar moment in the life of Sarah Palin, it was also not the worst interview in history.

Yup, I expected worse.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
As you may recall from my previous posts, the postmortems of the intereview and the subequent behavior of Couric are all part of the overall evaluation of the interview, but of course you will dispute that.

The "talking heads" are with us. There's something in the Bible about that.

Look, whenever Ms. Palin was caught unprepared her remarks were WORSE then this interview. You can't get away from that reality. Any American HAS to ask the hard question of whether shes prepared to be the leader of our Nation. Talking heads, or no talking heads, she answered that herself, and in the negative.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
The important thing is that you just don't get it. It's not so much Palin that's important but rather it is the casual way that women can be cast as second class citizens whenever it is politically expedient to do so. Calling her "****ty" or a MILF and laughing when a second rate comedian says she should be raped are appalling indictments of the cultural malaise that is crippling America. Of course you will retort with witty observation that I am being overly dramatic or engaging in hyperbole. Perhaps I am, but I would rather maligned by second rate intellects that sink to that level myself.

Personally, I am not at all sure that I would vote for her, but I as sure as hell will defend her right to be treated with some level of decency as her opponent. If you feel otherwise I truly pity you.

Come on man, she's a big girl, she willingly entered the contest; no one forced her to be in this spot. Sure they made fun of her, if some of the fun, was improper, goes with the territory. If we remove all the improper remarks, she's still in negative territory.

She shot herself over and over again with no help from anyone else. She wasn't running for Mayor, she was running for a really responsible job, what do you mean, "treat her with same level of decency?"

People shouldn't notice?

Dave

You have devoted an inordinate amount of energy to maligning Sarah Palin and as previously noted it is more than a little creepy.

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Use maligning in a Sentence
–verb (used with object)
1. to speak harmful untruths about; speak evil of; slander; defame: to malign an honorable man.
–adjective
2. evil in effect; pernicious; baleful; injurious: The gloomy house had a malign influence upon her usually good mood.
3. having or showing an evil disposition; malevolent; malicious.