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Originally posted by karlhungusjr:

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Hmm, you don't like Palin, you don't like Hillary, I bet you don't like Condi either..I am going to start thinking you just don't want the girls in there.

so not liking two women means I dislike all of them?

so if someone dislikes Obama and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton that means they don't want any blacks in politics?

BTW...I personally think that Condi would be a great Republican spokesperson/party leader. depending on what positions she ran on I would possibly consider voting for her.

But don't pull the "you must be a misogynist" card on me again please. I appreciate it.

Sorry Karl, it was just too much fun to tease you with regard to the girls.

women always tease me

Now that she's available - do you think Rupert Murdoch will give Sarah Palin Bill O'Reilly's time slot on FAUX-TV?

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
What is it about Sarah Palin that those on the left are so fearful of? By any rational standard she is an accomplished individual who has risen from obscurity to political leadership without the benefit of a political machine or family wealth. Despite this fact oceans of ink and countless hours of blogging have painted as either a moronic talking head or a Machiavellian manipulator bent on political domination. Neither is true, yet the irrational insults continue, more often than not to the point of absurdity. Since being introduced to the national stage her treatment has clearly demonstrated the vacuous hypocrisy of the feminist movement, the total lack of journalistic ethics that now under serves this nation and that there is no longer a line between journalism, comedy and political commentary. It has also been amply demonstrated that our daughters cannot expect to participate in the political system without first surrendering any source of self pride that they may have. Personal values are not allowed and any thought of operating as an individual will be treated in the harshest possible manner.

The left won a well deserved victory last November yet now they are doing everything possible to squander it. Between the misogynistic diatribes that have come to represent what is apparently considered humor, thinly disguised infomercials being passed off as press conferences and a seemingly endless series of platitude laden speeches designed to placate the simple minded it will not be long until only the most fervent true believers will still be chanting the mantra. When that day arrives at least Sarah Palin will have retained her integrity, a claim her critics surrendered long ago.

You've mistaken fear for apathy.
I could care less about the person who won out her parties nomination for governor over a corrupt individual.
She went from Mayor of a small town to Governor without ever facing a real political challenge and what happens the first time there's real politics?
She quits.
I highly doubt she could have "risen" to any position without some background and she would never have gotten where she is in the lower 48.
Alaska is, for all intents and purposes, basically a whole different animal when it comes to political machinations.
They've got oil. That's it. And they've got political scandal like the rest of us.
I don't see anyone giving the politicians on the left any leeway and the hyperbole is just as indefensible from both sides making everyone hypocrites.
So what are you...the pot or the kettle?
I'll take kettle.
BTW...Palin sold her integrity for a shot at the big time. Just like every politician does.
Care to prove that opinion wrong?

What you are passing off as an "opinion" is merely well fertilized nonsense. But considering your apparent obsession with cooking utensils what else could be expected?

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by busnrete8:
But the treatment she got from katie couric

I'm curious about this above comment. Just WHAT did Katie Couric do that was so unfair? Ask her whether the Sun rises in the East?

I mean really, for the life of me, can anyone of you Palin fans tell me what Couric "did" to Palin that was unfair?

Dave

I can't stand Katie Couric, she was on her way out and Palin saved her career, but not for long because even with a second wind she can't stimulate anyone long enough to watch her.

The only thing I don't like more than Couric is that Palin did not hold her own with Couric.

That was embarrassing when Couric was drilling her on McCains votes from the past and Palin was not prepared, then go to commercial break and McCain comes out to cover up.

Not a fine moment for the Reps.

Funny, Couric did not have Biden on and ask him of every vote Obama did.

View attacks McCain and dog piles on him, no bias there, would they have done it to Obama? We wont know because Obama did not come on during that period.

Ellen slams McCain over gay rights, but did not hold it against Mr or Mrs Obama when they appeard three times!

Just a few unfair moments, politics and the media in bed together.

All of this is very nice. But it's "rhetoric."

Did Couric force Palin to be on her show?

Mark this

I keep asking it, but what exactly was unfair?

Dave

You have admitted that you did not see the interview so why not watch it yourself and come to your own conclusion? Until you take the time to educate yourself your "opinion" is no more than what is produced by that other thing that everyone has.

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It just seems that once she was almost forced into becoming not only a national name but also a celebrity of sorts, she was pointed toward epic failure. Her good looks and sexual appeal made her a political bombshell when she burst upon the Republican convention. Her "lipstick on a pit-bull" image made the right wing swoon and scared the hell out of the left.

Unfortunately, she also scared some of the more rational conservatives and most of the independents. A portion of this was due to the incompetency that permeated the McCain campaign. She was badly prepared and totally mismanaged. Those that point at the media in general and Ms. Couric in particular are missing the primary cause of her failure. Her over-the-top personality and her unparalleled mismanagement by her handlers made her easy fodder for SNL's Saundra Fey who actually did more to derail Republican ambitions - by making her a national joke - then any mechanization by the Democrats who were wisely content to not interrupt the total destruction that they could enjoy unfolding before their very eyes.

This epic fail was hastened along by her daughter's pregnancy which immediately was forced into the public eye and made the charges of "family values hypocrite" stick like a Chinese finger puzzle and the more the McCain campaign tried to wriggle free the tighter it stuck.

Her ability to galvanize the fundamentalist base was more than offset by her ability to repel everybody else. However this points more at the almost insurmountable dilemma facing the Republican party. They cannot win without the base and they cannot win without the middle - the growing number of disaffected independents. These two groups are almost mutually exclusive and this is a problem the right has yet to solve.

Sarah Palin may yet prove to be a force to be reckoned with but she needs to drop below the radar and reinvent herself with different seasonings.

She really needs to pal up with Madonna who has perfected this art - but that's impossible too.

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Originally posted by IHAWKER:
I think we all know, if we are being honest, that Palin was way out of her league.

Obama would have been out of his league if it wasen't for the left Kis As lib terd biased media!

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Originally posted by EAG154:

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Originally posted by IHAWKER:
I think we all know, if we are being honest, that Palin was way out of her league.

Obama would have been out of his league if it wasen't for the left Kis As lib terd biased media!

Careful! Blood pressure meds...

Please, Please, stop making fun of Sarah Palin. She is the only ray of sunshine I have left. I know to some of you knot heads out there you are saying "then you don't have much left" and your right but I ask you all to please give this combat Veteran just enough time until she comes out in public and gives the real reason why she resigned her office. If you people love God, love your country, your family, and me, you will grant me this wish. Thank you very much.

She's a ditz who will never be President. Acts to goofy. Now a "quitter." Has a huge ego, just wants to make money now, and she will. It's the American way.

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This time, a H-U-G-E landslide FOR Obama if she's the chosen one for the Republicans in 12. So Pleeeeessseeee Republican's, nominate her ... lol

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Originally posted by Fightdirector:
Now that she's available - do you think Rupert Murdoch will give Sarah Palin Bill O'Reilly's time slot on FAUX-TV?

Good guess, the FAUX (sometimes) News and (always) Comedy and Entertainment Channel.

She quit so she and her family can star in their own reality TV series on FOX. You betcha!

If she can't handle the job of Governor, and quits, how can she possibly be President? Someone's been giving her some very bad advice if POTUS is her goal.

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Originally posted by JBL266:
She quit so she and her family can star in their own reality TV series on FOX. You betcha!

Replacing "The Osbournes" with "The Palins" ...cute.

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by usa_girl:

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Originally posted by Grachus:

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Originally posted by busnrete8:
But the treatment she got from katie couric

I'm curious about this above comment. Just WHAT did Katie Couric do that was so unfair? Ask her whether the Sun rises in the East?

I mean really, for the life of me, can anyone of you Palin fans tell me what Couric "did" to Palin that was unfair?

Dave

I can't stand Katie Couric, she was on her way out and Palin saved her career, but not for long because even with a second wind she can't stimulate anyone long enough to watch her.

The only thing I don't like more than Couric is that Palin did not hold her own with Couric.

That was embarrassing when Couric was drilling her on McCains votes from the past and Palin was not prepared, then go to commercial break and McCain comes out to cover up.

Not a fine moment for the Reps.

Funny, Couric did not have Biden on and ask him of every vote Obama did.

View attacks McCain and dog piles on him, no bias there, would they have done it to Obama? We wont know because Obama did not come on during that period.

Ellen slams McCain over gay rights, but did not hold it against Mr or Mrs Obama when they appeard three times!

Just a few unfair moments, politics and the media in bed together.

All of this is very nice. But it's "rhetoric."

Did Couric force Palin to be on her show?

Mark this

I keep asking it, but what exactly was unfair?

Dave

You have admitted that you did not see the interview so why not watch it yourself and come to your own conclusion? Until you take the time to educate yourself your "opinion" is no more than what is produced by that other thing that everyone has.

Good point - I didn't make anything up, I asked questions. It turned out you couldn't answer them.

Ok, I've NOW seen the interview. Couric asked no unfair questions. In fact, she didn't particulerly ask difficult questions. Palin was obviously unprepared.

Maybe I should write a long post about how unfair Helen Thomas was to Obamas Press Secretary? (Of course I've have to delete the one I already wrote, supporting her).

This defense of Palin is really kind of pathetic. Was she running for the head of her kindergarten class? If such is the case, Ms. Couric was really a brutal questioner. Six year olds, running for a token job, should be treated gently and kindly - I do believe we expect more from our National Leaders? Well, at least I do...

And really, the only thing you're going to tell me is that if she was a Democrat, Couric wouldn't have been so tough - Which is like saying, Couric would be asking her if she knits sweaters.

Dave

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This defense of Palin is really kind of pathetic. Was she running for the head of her kindergarten class? If such is the case, Ms. Couric was really a brutal questioner. Six year olds, running for a token job, should be treated gently and kindly - I do believe we expect more from our Nation Leaders? Well, at least I do...

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by mmulder67:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:
What is it about Sarah Palin that those on the left are so fearful of? By any rational standard she is an accomplished individual who has risen from obscurity to political leadership without the benefit of a political machine or family wealth. Despite this fact oceans of ink and countless hours of blogging have painted as either a moronic talking head or a Machiavellian manipulator bent on political domination. Neither is true, yet the irrational insults continue, more often than not to the point of absurdity. Since being introduced to the national stage her treatment has clearly demonstrated the vacuous hypocrisy of the feminist movement, the total lack of journalistic ethics that now under serves this nation and that there is no longer a line between journalism, comedy and political commentary. It has also been amply demonstrated that our daughters cannot expect to participate in the political system without first surrendering any source of self pride that they may have. Personal values are not allowed and any thought of operating as an individual will be treated in the harshest possible manner.

The left won a well deserved victory last November yet now they are doing everything possible to squander it. Between the misogynistic diatribes that have come to represent what is apparently considered humor, thinly disguised infomercials being passed off as press conferences and a seemingly endless series of platitude laden speeches designed to placate the simple minded it will not be long until only the most fervent true believers will still be chanting the mantra. When that day arrives at least Sarah Palin will have retained her integrity, a claim her critics surrendered long ago.

You've mistaken fear for apathy.
I could care less about the person who won out her parties nomination for governor over a corrupt individual.
She went from Mayor of a small town to Governor without ever facing a real political challenge and what happens the first time there's real politics?
She quits.
I highly doubt she could have "risen" to any position without some background and she would never have gotten where she is in the lower 48.
Alaska is, for all intents and purposes, basically a whole different animal when it comes to political machinations.
They've got oil. That's it. And they've got political scandal like the rest of us.
I don't see anyone giving the politicians on the left any leeway and the hyperbole is just as indefensible from both sides making everyone hypocrites.
So what are you...the pot or the kettle?
I'll take kettle.
BTW...Palin sold her integrity for a shot at the big time. Just like every politician does.
Care to prove that opinion wrong?

What you are passing off as an "opinion" is merely well fertilized nonsense. But considering your apparent obsession with cooking utensils what else could be expected?

Do you really think your opinion has any more validity then mine? Of course you do...and you'd be wrong as usual.
And your inability to grasp conventional witicisms is telling in itself.
The utilization of the "I know you are but what am I" game is unbecoming of someone with a supposed adult intellect.
Keep trying...

Wow! Five pages on this topic already but barely any Democratic responses on health care and cap and trade.

Glad to see that everyone's priorities are where they should be.

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:

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The press has been especially brutal to her

Well what do you expect?

How about a little tact and class?

Attacking a person's politics or experience is one thing. Attacking their family is the lowest of the lows, even for the media.

My personal policy is that families are off limits.