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Think she just got tired of the left wing George Soros sponsored bullschidt and said you take your lower forty-eight and stick it!...
That's the great thing about Alaska, they can succeed from the union and be an independent country and not feel the loss of the lower forty-eight at all...
Most people move to Alaska to be independent and free of the kr@p of the people and politics of the lower forty-eight...
If I were a young man and my body wasn't racked with arthritis, I'd sure think about it too!...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81
 
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his first term is a total failure, only to get worse!

YEAH THERES NO WAY HE'LL MATCH BUSH'S SUCCESS!


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What did Dubya do...MBA from Harvard Business. Owner of the Texas Rangers, 2 term governor of Texas, 2 term president of the USA...shoot far...anybody could do better than that! Razz

Yes 2 terms President of the US. 2 terms that have already gone down in history as one of the worst periods of US history. Applause


No, Jimmy "the peanut farmer" Carter has that sewn up.
 
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Didnt read the whole thread but it sounds like somebody may have some dirt on her.

The whole democratic party has been pretty ruthless against the GOP this time.

More reason to vote Independent, though I doubt even with a superior popular vote, an Independent will never get voted into office.

Sure there will be some Dems that will vote for the popular (effectively throwing themselves on the sword to make things look honost) but an Independent will never get elected...dosent matter how many votes they get.


There's your non-corrupt Guvment for ya
 
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Hope she's got her sights on Obama's second (?) term, his first term is a total failure, only to get worse!



A total failure in 6 month? Yea Right.
 
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I don't know why, but after being around here all these years, it still amazes me at how nasty some of ya'll can be. Roll Eyes

Anyone in her position would have done the same. She never deserved the vile attacks she had to endure because of John McCain's choice to nominate her in the first place.

Do any of you even have a clue about who she was before this all started? Not likely. She, like a very dear friend of mine, was forced to do what she thought was right by not playing the political BS game that most of you buy into. Sarah, mother and wife, is going with her conscience and she is doing it for her family.

She is also doing what she thinks is best for us here in Alaska. She is not the politician Obama or McCain are, thank god. She cleaned up what she could here and now, thanks to her national exposure, she can do no more to help get the crook politicians here out of office. They now have a power they couldn't have had before with the haters in the lower 48 slandering her day in and day out.

If nothing else, she won't be around to be the focus of the hateful ugly pieces of crap who have nothing better to do with their time than slander someone they never knew. I wonder who the next victim will be?


Pam...
Might as well get used to it with the moronic antics of Mrs. Palin's detractors, especially since her announcement today.
You think that they spouted venom in the past, and made it a special mission to target her husband and children before...you haven't seen anything yet!
Chronic and terminal parasites within the media, as well as the non-media will have a field day...
Best thing is to ignore these annoying people and consider the sources
The more they denegrate Mrs. Palin and her family...the more they denegrate themselves.

It is my firm belief that she has made this decision to step down to not only better herself and her family...as well as those friends and neighbors she can trust. She has made some good choices as well as bad...part of being human.
 
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Happy for her to get shed of the constant nagging from political cauldron stirrers. Happy for Alaska for electing a women (and she is that), still scratching my head why the GOP thought a small State governor would draw in the 2008 election. Glad for us that we don't have to put up with liberal and media carping for four more years....... A governor, a wife, a Mother, a Grandmother. I can see how that scared the hell out of the panty waist limp wristed liberals.


Small state? It don't get no bigger than Alaska! Remeber that Texans! Big Grin I know. You mean small as in population.

I believe the GOP picked her because Alaska is an energy state as in lots of oil. And also because as a woman it was thought she would draw in some of the Democratic voters. That's what I believe...



She was picked because she was a woman and to distract. Get guys thinking with thier other head.
 
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What is it about Sarah Palin that those on the left are so fearful of? By any rational standard she is an accomplished individual who has risen from obscurity to political leadership without the benefit of a political machine or family wealth. Despite this fact oceans of ink and countless hours of blogging have painted as either a moronic talking head or a Machiavellian manipulator bent on political domination. Neither is true, yet the irrational insults continue, more often than not to the point of absurdity. Since being introduced to the national stage her treatment has clearly demonstrated the vacuous hypocrisy of the feminist movement, the total lack of journalistic ethics that now under serves this nation and that there is no longer a line between journalism, comedy and political commentary. It has also been amply demonstrated that our daughters cannot expect to participate in the political system without first surrendering any source of self pride that they may have. Personal values are not allowed and any thought of operating as an individual will be treated in the harshest possible manner.

The left won a well deserved victory last November yet now they are doing everything possible to squander it. Between the misogynistic diatribes that have come to represent what is apparently considered humor, thinly disguised infomercials being passed off as press conferences and a seemingly endless series of platitude laden speeches designed to placate the simple minded it will not be long until only the most fervent true believers will still be chanting the mantra. When that day arrives at least Sarah Palin will have retained her integrity, a claim her critics surrendered long ago.

You've mistaken fear for apathy.
I could care less about the person who won out her parties nomination for governor over a corrupt individual.
She went from Mayor of a small town to Governor without ever facing a real political challenge and what happens the first time there's real politics?
She quits.
I highly doubt she could have "risen" to any position without some background and she would never have gotten where she is in the lower 48.
Alaska is, for all intents and purposes, basically a whole different animal when it comes to political machinations.
They've got oil. That's it. And they've got political scandal like the rest of us.
I don't see anyone giving the politicians on the left any leeway and the hyperbole is just as indefensible from both sides making everyone hypocrites.
So what are you...the pot or the kettle?
I'll take kettle.
BTW...Palin sold her integrity for a shot at the big time. Just like every politician does.
Care to prove that opinion wrong?
 
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If Palin wants to run in 2012, why not do exactly what she announced today? It's an enormous gamble - but it could be a shrewd one.

After all, she's freeing herself from the duties of the governorship. Now she can do her book, give speeches, travel the country and the world, campaign for others, meet people, get more educated on the issues - and without being criticized for neglecting her duties in Alaska. I suppose she'll take a hit for leaving the governorship early - but how much of one? She's probably accomplished most of what she was going to get done as governor, and is leaving a sympatico lieutenant governor in charge.

And haven't conservatives been lamenting the lack of a national leader? Well, now she'll try to be that. She may not succeed. Everything rests on her talents, and on her performance. She'll be under intense and hostile scrutiny, and she'll have to perform well.

All in all, it's going to be a high-wire act. The odds are against her pulling it off. But I wouldn't bet against it.

Bill Kristol has his take on why she has quit. Who knows, maybe she should hire ole Bill as her adviser. He did such a great job working for a VP a few years back, what was his name again, oh yea, Dan Quayle. Big Grin
 
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I don't know why, but after being around here all these years, it still amazes me at how nasty some of ya'll can be. Roll Eyes

Anyone in her position would have done the same. She never deserved the vile attacks she had to endure because of John McCain's choice to nominate her in the first place.

Do any of you even have a clue about who she was before this all started? Not likely. She, like a very dear friend of mine, was forced to do what she thought was right by not playing the political BS game that most of you buy into. Sarah, mother and wife, is going with her conscience and she is doing it for her family.

She is also doing what she thinks is best for us here in Alaska. She is not the politician Obama or McCain are, thank god. She cleaned up what she could here and now, thanks to her national exposure, she can do no more to help get the crook politicians here out of office. They now have a power they couldn't have had before with the haters in the lower 48 slandering her day in and day out.

If nothing else, she won't be around to be the focus of the hateful ugly pieces of crap who have nothing better to do with their time than slander someone they never knew. I wonder who the next victim will be?


Pam...
Might as well get used to it with the moronic antics of Mrs. Palin's detractors, especially since her announcement today.
You think that they spouted venom in the past, and made it a special mission to target her husband and children before...you haven't seen anything yet!
Chronic and terminal parasites within the media, as well as the non-media will have a field day...
Best thing is to ignore these annoying people and consider the sources
The more they denegrate Mrs. Palin and her family...the more they denegrate themselves.

It is my firm belief that she has made this decision to step down to not only better herself and her family...as well as those friends and neighbors she can trust. She has made some good choices as well as bad...part of being human.


I am somewhat use to it, Chuck. I appreciate it. It doesn't bother me as much as it has in the past. I just don't understand how people can be so vile. They remind me of snakes. It is a sad state this country has come to. Everyone finds it so easy to judge and hate others. I think it makes them feel better about their own screw-ups.

As you say, we are all human, but that doesn't excuse the haters...imho.

She hasn't forgotten why she became governor and she is just trying to accomplish what she started in another way. She listens to her family too and that is a big part of the reason for what she is doing now.

Anyway, I really said all I had to say in this thread and the one in the p/c forum. I know the haters won't listen anyway and sometimes I wonder why I say anything at all.
 
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I can't decide if she did it for a presidential run or if there is a scandal in the works that she knows will damage her badly.

Quitting so far in advance of the next election doesn't make much sense to me.
 
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Well, I know I was elected to govern for 4 years but I feel I've accomplished all I need to dontcha know, so I've decided to quit while I'm ahead and pursue my own personal interests instead of doing what you elected me to do.
I feel it's in the best interests of everyone involved.
You betcha!
 
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But the treatment she got from katie couric


I'm curious about this above comment. Just WHAT did Katie Couric do that was so unfair? Ask her whether the Sun rises in the East?

I mean really, for the life of me, can anyone of you Palin fans tell me what Couric "did" to Palin that was unfair?

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I can't stand Katie Couric, she was on her way out and Palin saved her career, but not for long because even with a second wind she can't stimulate anyone long enough to watch her.

The only thing I don't like more than Couric is that Palin did not hold her own with Couric.

That was embarrassing when Couric was drilling her on McCains votes from the past and Palin was not prepared, then go to commercial break and McCain comes out to cover up.

Not a fine moment for the Reps.

Funny, Couric did not have Biden on and ask him of every vote Obama did.

View attacks McCain and dog piles on him, no bias there, would they have done it to Obama? We wont know because Obama did not come on during that period.

Ellen slams McCain over gay rights, but did not hold it against Mr or Mrs Obama when they appeard three times!

Just a few unfair moments, politics and the media in bed together.


All of this is very nice. But it's "rhetoric."

Did Couric force Palin to be on her show?

Mark this

I keep asking it, but what exactly was unfair?

Dave


I just told you Dave.

The issue is not that Palin folded under pressure or was not ready.

The issue is that as a journalist Couric should have been just as tough on the other side as should have all the media and they were not.

One side got a free pass with the exception of what Fox called them on.
 
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I think we all know, if we are being honest, that Palin was way out of her league.
 
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I think we all know, if we are being honest, that Palin was way out of her league.


Totally agree Hawker that Palin was not ready for that.

Couric just got lucky with the punch. It is not that Couric is just a wiz.

Palin is adorable and no matter what brought jazz to McCains party.

I think she is not as stupid as people would like to make her out to be.

I just don't think she is as polished as we need her to be.

I think she can still do a lot for the Rep party and can even see her mixing it up in congress maybe, but not President.
 
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The issue is that as a journalist Couric should have been just as tough on the other side as should have all the media and they were not.


I feel pretty confident that Obama would of had no problem answering a question about what news papers he reads.

Palin didn't get "tough" questions. She flubbed easy ones.
 
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Check some sources in AK and there have been rumors of late of a Federal Inditment and an IRS investigation. The Federal thing has to do with who built her house and the IRS thing has to do with a trust fund and may involve fraud and mishandaling of funds. Have to wait and see how this thing plays out. One thing for sure, you still can't see Russia from her front porch.
 
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The issue is that as a journalist Couric should have been just as tough on the other side as should have all the media and they were not.


I feel pretty confident that Obama would of had no problem answering a question about what news papers he reads.

Palin didn't get "tough" questions. She flubbed easy ones.


That was a stupid question and Palin did not like Couric from the get go and dismissed it by not answering it just like Obama did not answer Sawyers questions about his smoking.

The real bomb was when Couric was trying to corner her on what positions McCain took in his past votes and policies.

Palin tried to brush it off by saying they thougtht the same, but could not list any of his past votes.

I say to you, do you really think Biden and Obama could have done a triva on each others past voting records? Obama maybe, Biden???. lol

Doesn't matter, the deal is that you can't look like a deer caught in head lights, you have to be able to spin it and she could not.
 
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That was a stupid question and Palin did not like Couric from the get go and dismissed it by not answering it just like Obama did not answer Sawyers questions about his smoking.


She would have been better off by not answering, but she DID answer. She just flubbed it and flubbed it badly.

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The real bomb was when Couric was trying to corner her on what positions McCain took in his past votes and policies.

Palin tried to brush it off by saying they thougtht the same, but could not list any of his past votes.

I say to you, do you really think Biden and Obama could have done a triva on each others past voting records? Obama maybe, Biden???. lol


Obama and Biden ran against each other and debated each other, so yeah I have no doubt they knew each others positions.

she NEVER should have agreed to an interview until her and mccain were on the same page. and that were mccain whole campaign failures all came together. He and his advisers should have know better.

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Doesn't matter, the deal is that you can't look like a deer caught in head lights, you have to be able to spin it and she could not.


they should have known better than to put themselves in that position in the first place.
 
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That was a stupid question and Palin did not like Couric from the get go and dismissed it by not answering it just like Obama did not answer Sawyers questions about his smoking.


She would have been better off by not answering, but she DID answer. She just flubbed it and flubbed it badly.

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The real bomb was when Couric was trying to corner her on what positions McCain took in his past votes and policies.

Palin tried to brush it off by saying they thougtht the same, but could not list any of his past votes.

I say to you, do you really think Biden and Obama could have done a triva on each others past voting records? Obama maybe, Biden???. lol


Obama and Biden ran against each other and debated each other, so yeah I have no doubt they knew each others positions.

she NEVER should have agreed to an interview until her and mccain were on the same page. and that were mccain whole campaign failures all came together. He and his advisers should have know better.

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Doesn't matter, the deal is that you can't look like a deer caught in head lights, you have to be able to spin it and she could not.


they should have known better than to put themselves in that position in the first place.


Hmm, you don't like Palin, you don't like Hillary, I bet you don't like Condi either..I am going to start thinking you just don't want the girls in there.
 
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Hmm, you don't like Palin, you don't like Hillary, I bet you don't like Condi either..I am going to start thinking you just don't want the girls in there.


so not liking two women means I dislike all of them?

so if someone dislikes Obama and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton that means they don't want any blacks in politics?

BTW...I personally think that Condi would be a great Republican spokesperson/party leader. depending on what positions she ran on I would possibly consider voting for her.

But don't pull the "you must be a misogynist" card on me again please. I appreciate it.
 
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