Gay leaders blame ads, Obama for loss in Maine
Maine voters reject law that would have allowed gay couples to wed

Pat Wellenbach / AP
Kt Crossman joins same-sex marriage supporters for a rally on the steps of City Hall, in Portland, Maine, on Wednesday, a day after voters rejected the gay marriage law.
Maine falls backward in gay marriage fight
Democratic voter turnout decline.


updated 6:07 p.m. CT, Wed., Nov . 4, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO - Stunned and angry, national gay rights leaders Wednesday blamed scare-mongering ads — and President Barack Obama's lack of engagement — for a bitter election setback in Maine that could alter the dynamics for both sides in the gay-marriage debate.

Conservatives, in contrast, celebrated Maine voters' rejection of a law that would have allowed gay couples to wed, depicting it as a warning shot that should deter politicians in other states from pushing for same-sex marriage.

"Every time the citizens have voted on marriage, they have always sided with natural marriage," said Mathew Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel, a Florida-based Christian legal group. "Maine dramatically illustrates the will of the people, and politicians should wake up and listen.

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Good, let em. Who cares?

Americans have spoken for the 31st time......



Gays can blame who ever they want!

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Originally posted by NSNN:
Americans have spoken for the 31st time......



Gays can blame who ever they want!

I'd have ago at God, he made them that way the sick blighter.

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Originally posted by Bladensburg:

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Originally posted by NSNN:
Americans have spoken for the 31st time......



Gays can blame who ever they want!

I'd have ago at God, he made them that way the sick blighter.

Same-sexers will start howling in every state for more legislation that makes it almost impossible to speak against them without treading the edge of "hate crime" laws. That will give them the edge in debates in legislatures, because politicians will cater to them to avoid being labeled as prejudice or bias or a "hater." ! But as long as the masses are allowed to VOTE on the issue, the majority will still have a voice.

Watch the effort to eliminate petition-driven referendums and/or release the names of petition-signers so they can be brow-beaten and intimidated by being labeled as "haters" to drive them away from voting their principles - -

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Originally posted by greywolfghost:
Same-sexers will start howling in every state for more legislation that makes it almost impossible to speak against them without treading the edge of "hate crime" laws. That will give them the edge in debates in legislatures, because politicians will cater to them to avoid being labeled as prejudice or bias or a "hater." ! But as long as the masses are allowed to VOTE on the issue, the majority will still have a voice.

Watch the effort to eliminate petition-driven referendums and/or release the names of petition-signers so they can be brow-beaten and intimidated by being labeled as "haters" to drive them away from voting their principles - -

They can have all the politicians in their pockets. The vote in Maine proved that legislation isn't worth the paper it's written on. If the people can push for a referendum, laws are changed where some sympathetic politician has made something law.

Sad days in the camp of the homosexuals. If they don't stop and be happy with what they have now, they'll find themselves right back in the closest.

Why don't we put all human rights up to a popular vote? How about putting the ability to divorce up to a popular vote...to preserve the "sanctity of marriage."

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Originally posted by Esample1:
Why don't we put all human rights up to a popular vote? How about putting the ability to divorce up to a popular vote...to preserve the "sanctity of marriage."

That's what been happening. The sanctity of marriage....between MAN and WOMAN.

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Originally posted by SignalSgtWilliams:

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Originally posted by Esample1:
Why don't we put all human rights up to a popular vote? How about putting the ability to divorce up to a popular vote...to preserve the "sanctity of marriage."

That's what been happening. The sanctity of marriage....between MAN and WOMAN.

Not surprised you didn't answer the question.

We may be voting here in NH in the near future after the vote in Maine.

unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Maine+vote+energizes+same-sex+marriage+foes&articleId=1ea59867-3165-4dde-9d8e-af0a6f177692

Don

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Originally posted by Esample1:

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Originally posted by SignalSgtWilliams:

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Originally posted by Esample1:
Why don't we put all human rights up to a popular vote? How about putting the ability to divorce up to a popular vote...to preserve the "sanctity of marriage."

That's what been happening. The sanctity of marriage....between MAN and WOMAN.

Not surprised you didn't answer the question.

Divorce is between 'two' individuals. Homosexuals is a group, a group by choice, against the rest of the population, being the majority. Doubt if that is an acceptable answer to you but wouldn't be a surprise either.

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Originally posted by 21yrsUSCGUSCS:
We may be voting here in NH in the near future after the vote in Maine.

unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Maine+vote+energizes+same-sex+marriage+foes&articleId=1ea59867-3165-4dde-9d8e-af0a6f177692

Don

So it has begun, sorta knew it would. The american people are starting to see that, their legislators can be held accountable and can reverse their law making.....about time.

I find it humorous that some of you that cry the loudest for the sanctity of marriage are often the ones that have the higher divorce rates.

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I find it humorous that some of you that cry the loudest for the sanctity of marriage are often the ones that have the higher divorce rates.

That's life, there are usually more of anything in a 'majority' than in a 'minority'. Can't really compare now, can you?

Been married 55 years to an extraordinarily wonderful woman,
my good fortune!

If two men or two women find this kind of happiness by being married to same gender mates then good for them!

And it isn't anybody elses business!

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Originally posted by EAG154:
Been married 55 years to an extraordinarily wonderful woman,
my good fortune!

If two men or two women find this kind of happiness by being married to same gender mates then good for them!

And it isn't anybody elses business!

I, on the other hand, have been divorced since 96 and have loved every minute since. I found out the hard way, one does not need a piece of paper to officially make anything a happy world. And the old saying 'is' true, why buy the cow when the milk is free. Don't need to be married or a piece of paper either to procreate (between a MAN and WOMAN), at least not by today's standards.

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Originally posted by SignalSgtWilliams:

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Originally posted by EAG154:
Been married 55 years to an extraordinarily wonderful woman,
my good fortune!

If two men or two women find this kind of happiness by being married to same gender mates then good for them!

And it isn't anybody elses business!

I, on the other hand, have been divorced since 96 and have loved every minute since. I found out the hard way, one does not need a piece of paper to officially make anything a happy world. And the old saying 'is' true, why buy the cow when the milk is free. Don't need to be married or a piece of paper either to procreate (between a MAN and WOMAN), at least not by today's standards.

sorry but was married at the ripe old age of 18, didn't have all of your philosophies

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Originally posted by SignalSgtWilliams:

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Originally posted by EAG154:
Been married 55 years to an extraordinarily wonderful woman,
my good fortune!

If two men or two women find this kind of happiness by being married to same gender mates then good for them!

And it isn't anybody elses business!

I, on the other hand, have been divorced since 96 and have loved every minute since. I found out the hard way, one does not need a piece of paper to officially make anything a happy world. And the old saying 'is' true, why buy the cow when the milk is free. Don't need to be married or a piece of paper either to procreate (between a MAN and WOMAN), at least not by today's standards.

nothing is stopping gay people or heterosexuals from having meaningful relationships and co-habitating.

I still think Gay folks should be allowed to have civil unions and equal protection under the law, health benefits, etc. However things like hate crime legislation? Most violent crime is cause by hate, anger or other emotions. To single out certain classes for special attention is ridiculous. If you beat up a straight person or a gay person the punishment should be the same, you shouldnt have to spend an extra 5 years in prison because the person you beat up happens to be gay.

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Originally posted by EAG154:

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Originally posted by SignalSgtWilliams:

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Originally posted by EAG154:
Been married 55 years to an extraordinarily wonderful woman,
my good fortune!

If two men or two women find this kind of happiness by being married to same gender mates then good for them!

And it isn't anybody elses business!

I, on the other hand, have been divorced since 96 and have loved every minute since. I found out the hard way, one does not need a piece of paper to officially make anything a happy world. And the old saying 'is' true, why buy the cow when the milk is free. Don't need to be married or a piece of paper either to procreate (between a MAN and WOMAN), at least not by today's standards.

sorry but was married at the ripe old age of 18, didn't have all of your philosophies

So did I and I also followed another old saying, first time for sex, second time for money, third time for love and the fourth time for convenience. Since 96, sex has been abundant, bank account bigger than it's ever been, a good dog gives more love and devotion and I've been cooking, ironing and cleaning house since I was 12. What the hell am I missing today?? Nothing!!!!!