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Oh there is no doubting that America and Britain will be targets for a long time to come from the AQ. I just want to find Bin Laden. and kick him in the nuts for hiding for so long.
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Gene pool is apparently not deep enough! Seriously though, the only reason you believe we're reffing a civil war is because the media tells you so. There is better intel available than them. We are fighting mostly non-Iraqis...ask anyone that's made any kills at all.[/QUOTE] If that country isn't fighting within itself, then why haven't the POLITICAL benchmarks (love the term) been remotely addressed? Perhaps it's because they're busy HIGHLY disagreeing with each other by attempting to kill each other in numerous areas, each vowing for more control... My definition of at least a massive CIVIL dispute, I'd like to call a War. If they were together, they'd wouldn't even need us. Say you're correct, how come WE CAN'T convince barely a soul to help in this DIRE quest to thwart Iraq of this massive influx of AQ? You don't think that's a big problem? |
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Thanks for adding so needed brevity to this serious topic. I CAN picture a HardCore Grunt, pulling back that Steel Toe "version" and blammmm!!!! He'd better duck though, because at least TWO objects are flying out of his mouth at a high velocity. |
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Wait for Septembers report from the Corps Commander (not the MSM), to make the descission. But, a reduction of Combat troops and closing our Monsterous Logistics bases we have made are in order. Just think of how many Unnessary Combat troops are in Iraq just providing Security too these bases? 1/4 of the Combat force is sitting idle on paremeter watch or providing road side security (not atcually going after the Insurgents or Al Qaida). The bigger the base, the more security needed...thus it feeds on itself. If the US learned to live off the fat of the land and stopped with the McDonalds/ LaQuinta mindset how many troops could be brought home today? Just think of it. If the Corps commander could actually get a feel of what type of troops he truely actually needs there, which are nessassary and which is just there providing a service just for the sake of providing that service...how many troops would be already removed from the sandbox? Start cutting that Logistics Monster we have created and you'd start reducing a lot of your combat troops needed to protect it. Then the troops actually needed for training the Iraqi Security forces and going after Al Qaida would pretty much be all that was left. Take the money "saved" by removing these Logistic Bases and put it into the local economy to support the remainder of the US troops (and also build up local security forces). Hell, just imagine all the jobs that would be created and remove potential insurgents just by getting the locals a secured paycheck they could count on. Hmmm...of coarse that aint gonna happen.
Just a though anyways...like I said, it aint gonna happen like that anyways. |
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I would be willing to bet just about any amount that we already know exactly where he is, but we won't go after him because GWBush is either afraid of losing Mushariff(sp), or ... what? What good reason is there for NOT going after that dirt-bag anywhere, is my question... (anywhere except in IRAQ, where we know he AIN'T). |
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So, what I got out of this is that there are 58% of those polled that want us to be there, stay in the fight, at least until the end of 2008, where 17% think we should have this wrapped up... another 17 months... 41% saying take it to their butts and wipe them out, and then just 42% saying 'OH, woe is me, we are so bad and are ruinning the world and making people hate us more - we should get out now'.
I agree with Mr Snow... there is not enough emphasis place on what is going on in Iraq for the positive... I know that bad news sells, but is isn't responsible journalism (like they are responsible anyway). |
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 So let me get this straight. You , who advocate 'staying the course' because anything else is cowardice on the part of the 'give up and run awayers', gave up and ran away from this forum when faced with nothing more intimidating than opposing views during debate. Hmmmmm.  Anyways. A Pox on Your Pox, and I'll raise you a Pus-filled Boil. |
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Actually, we've convinced quite a few "souls". We undoubtedly would have convinced quite a few more were it not for folks such as yourself and the preponderance of the Democrats in the Senate that undercut our soldiers' efforts to do so by continuously calling for us to either back off or back out. Part of convincing "them" to commit to us requires that they perceive "us" as being committed to them. Undermining our soldiers? Damn right. If I were an Iraqi listening to last night's Senate "stunt" (despite Mary Landrieu's staunch denial), I wouldn't trust us either. |
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I agree, for once. I, too, believe that bin Laden is in Pakistan. But, I think he is up in the mountains between there and India... and I believe we don't venture off into the wilderness because of the tension between those two countries. But, back to Iraq. I disagree to what we should do there... I am part of the 41% that said stay and finish this crap... and we may have enough done by the end of next year to get out... so I may be part of the 58%, technically. |
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That's how the Dems rule. They don't have any of their own ideas. They only tell the population what they think it wants to hear. They use polls to gauge where they are going to stand on a certain issue. They only care about staying in office. |
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Couldn't agree more! The traitorous politicians did the same thing in 'Nam. Our country is being sabatoged by the egotistical cowards on Capitol Hill while the rest of the world sits back at laughs at the foolishness that goes on here in this country. No wonder they don't want to share in Democracy. What country would want a bunch of losers like we have running their government. The damn politicians need to back off and let the military do it's job. We were sent there to fight and win...not to die and lose. If we are going to be in a war (Iraq won't be the end of it whether we pull out or not) then we need people (Leaders) in place that have the b*lls to do what's necessary to win decisivly and let whoever wants to challenge us know...we ain't in the mood to screw around and we will kick their everlovin ***! Period! We need another George Patton. 'Nuff said. |
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WG: I must admit that was a good one! |
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Why would anyone bail out when this is just getting fun? Don't forget the canker on your boil with the pox on your pox. |
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Couldn't tell you that one. He is a sneaky Bast*rd. When we do find him though. I hope somebody just shoots him instead of a trial like sadam. |
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For a second, I thought my ridiculous post above would be accepted - especially from all those that see AQ following us home. It is such a dumb premise but that is what people on this blog are basically saying - we have to stay in Iraq and settle their civil war or else they will follow us home. Read the above post again and see how stupid that remark is - how are they following us home. |
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Don't want to bore you folks, but I was tired seeing everything done by polls.
Did a short calculation, how "human influence" would work. Take five of your friends, let them do five hours of voting each. The security of blocking last IP could be bypassed, only it lasts a bit longer. Let's assume one vote per minute is possible. That would give 60 x 5 x 5 = 1500 votes in the one or other bias. At all it were 5440 votes, therefrom 41 percent stay, 40 percent immediately out, and 19 percent out later. If one would add 1500 votes to bias immediately out, then it would be 6940 votes at all. Still 2230 for stay, now 3676 for immediately out, still 1034 for later. That changes the poll to: 32.13 percent stay, 52.97 immediately out, 14.90 later. I do NOT say, this was cheated, I only say have a look on what you want to depend on. Such a little effort and such a big difference. Hope the mods won't roast me for that... |
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Ifs thats the poll they had on here a few weeks ago, I didn't see those kind of numbers stating 60% wanted out. And I voted in it and voted for them to stay and finish the job. Then after that hit see results and I swear I didn't see those kind of numbers. It was the more like 60% stay...
Must be a liberal trick. And for you "People" who want to cut and run. Remember the military is there to do their jobs, period. You can't handle it, leave. And don't let the door hit you in the azz. Little do you know that you sitting us up to have the very worst military in the world. Everybody will know our reslove and it won't be much.. As I have stated before, You hear rumors that there is a bad azz around...then he approaches you and the fight is on, but then he calls time out and leaves...Is he still a bad azz in your mind? Nope, For now you know how to beat him. You in the military (active) ought to be ashame of yourselves for putting your own Service down and your own President..(thats what the voting thing is for, for him/her out) but don't refuse your duty or put your country down. It a reflection that is heard around the world. You just have beat your self. And for you prior service folks and retiree's the same goes for you..even though you might have served your time, do it with pride. If you want to gripe, go to Moveon.org and have it. But don't sit here on a site like this and put down your own service and country...Its speaks volumes of your owm self worth and that is nothing. The only thing I can figure is that, its so easy for you to put down the service and our country, for you have someones ear, nobody listens to you about your civilian job do they? Your just another chump...So in order to "Get" attention, you slam your owe service and country. I sure wouldn't have you watching my six, you can't be trusted. |
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LOL. What's that old saw? "A fool and his money are soon parted"? |
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it saddens me that today's americans dont have the intestinal fortitude to fight for their freedom. people do not understand that we are actually in a war with madmen who embrace an idilogy of violence and death. most americans are ignorant of the fact that muslim terrorists are in the process of spreading and practicing their doctrine of death worldwide.they have france in the palm of their hand,great Britain is experiencing increasing violence as well as organization of muslim fundamentalism in its capitol. most americans do not know that the muslim community of dearborne michigan was allowed, by american authority, to hold a vote to determine whether or not their community would be allowed to live by shariya,the muslim legal system which includes amputation of limbs and tongues,and death for illicit sex etc. the majority of this nonsense is pre-iraqi war.what happened to the america that was willing to,and did fight for its freedom? the guys in todays military are willing to fight but they are hindered by a cowardly,unpatriotic democratic party and a weak civilian populace! wake up america the turban is coming!
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I agree and throw in some validated parking at the FREE Clinic. |
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