Recently I've decided to finally buy my dream weapon, the M4/M16. After a bit of research I found out that there are versions with gaspistons (bether then the normal M4 gastube system in my opinion). Afterwards I found the call.308 nato advanced marksmen sniperrifle from POF. Since they were looking like M16 sniperrifles but had a biger calliber I decided, thats going to be my weapon. I found the HK417 and the 308. from LWRC the best ones, but they are not yet available (HK417 prob never for civs). The POF has no forwardassist, makes it not my first choice. So now my question is. Are there any alternatives to the POF, Hk417, LWRC rifles in 308.Nato, M16 lookalike, with gaspiston system?
Or are there any M16 versions (in 5.56 Nato) with gaspiston system and at least a 20" barrel?
Greetings Tellminator
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First off, gas piston and sniper rifle are separate words, just a little FYI. Second, I've looked at the LWRCs too and they're pretty damn good systems. If you wanted a whole gun, I'd wait on the LWRC, as it's probably the best of the bunch that you mentioned IMHO (in terms of manufacturing and price, not to mention availability). If you want one soon, you might want to start by getting a standard direct impingement rifle like the AR-10A2 or A4, then buying the LWRC upper when it comes out.
LWRC currently offers an AR rifle with a 20", match grade barrel in both 5.56mm and 6.8mm. A guy I've been talking to on SOCNET just bought a 16" one and he absolutely loves it. The head of LWRC frequents that site too, so you can talk to him directly.
I've talken to LWRC on their forum and If decided to wait for the .308 advanced marksmen rifle. Its exactly waht I searched. Looking like the M16 with R.I.S, forwardassist, designed as a AMR, calliber .308, gaspiston system. Now only the price (and availability in Switzerland) could hold me off, buying this dream of a weapon! (price only if its in the class of a SASS from DPMS) and I'm in contact with LWRC about the availability (looks like no problem).
Thx for the help (and of course Im going to write a review with pictures as soon as I got the weapon).
M14, from his spelling, i get the impression that tellminator is a native german speaker. they tend to group words together to form new ones like: PrazisionsSchutzenGewehr or sniperrifle.
Tellminator,
i never cared for the ergonomics of the m16. i prefer the traditional lines of a hunter rifle. never been too crazy over plastic either, wood just feels better. unless you are going to war, there is no reason to need a high capacity 308 win rifle. i am thinking of getting the browning BAR in 308 or 30-06 when i get home. sweet rifle. heavy but soft shooting and feels to me like what a real rifle should.
Hello Yes Im a nativ german speaker (Im from Switzerland). I know that there is no real need for plastic etc if your not at war. But since Im a M4/M16 design fan I need one. Now first I thought to just buy a normal M4, then I saw the ones with piston, and then I found the DMR .308 and thats just perfect for me. (The M16 design is just my taste, but I can understand if you dont like it). If I just wanted a good shooting rifle I would buy a Remington or some other boltaction. But I need a M16 look a like for my collection and this is just perfect! But thx for the idea of an other type of weapon. (Probably Im going to buy a bolt action later)
I'll get it right after my military service (for 200.- CHfr.). But I wanna have a precision rifle (thats the reason why Im looking at DMR's and bolt action rifles). I allready have the Stgw.57 and will as I said get the SIG 550 after service. Now I wanna have a precision rifle (with whome you can shoot fast) and I allready got a bolt action rifle with wood (a WW2 rifle, so I know how good wood is ^^). So I got from each type one except of a DMR and a M16style one (I need one cause I love them) and the .308 M16 from LWRC combines both.
Take A "Hard-Look" at DPMS LR 308 Carbine (7.62 NATO ). Good Gun. The Down-Side, the Mags. are a little on the High-Side. But all in all, its a gun that will last-you for Years ! Take Care.
Hey, would the Advanced Marksmanship Rifle and the Squad Designated Marksman Rifle/Special Purpose Rifle be the same thing? I've heard it called all kinds of names. If so its a beautiful weapon, mine was in 5.56, regular gas tube though, no piston. Still, free floating barrel, two stage trigger, single shot only, chrome lined barrel that is star-shaped for better heat dispersion, and quater-minute angle accuracy. We talking about the same rifle here? If so can you please post a link to that site, I want one too.
Look at Armalite. If you read the history on Armalite you'll find out that the AR-10 was actually made before the m-16 but the Army didn't want the weight. So Armalite sold the patent to Colt who changed the caliber a couple of times and the m-16 was born.
I own a AR-10. Very well built, priced right and accurate. My nephew is a sniper in the 101st. He came over on leave and fell in love with it. I've got two upper recievers. A 22" stainless bull barrel for match and shots up to 1000 yards. And a 16" standard barrel for hunting. The bull barrel about killed me when I took it elk hunting. I wasn't gonna shoot an elk over 300 yards away anyway.
Patriot Arms makes a piston driven rifle in .308 0r .223, its pricey though. I think Bushmaster came out with a rifle in 6.8, but iam not sure about the piston system. Iam betting that it is a gas piston system. I was looking at Vulcan Arms, they make a few versions of the Galil, in 7.62mm. Its gonna cost, no matter wat you buy. POF makes just wat you want i think.
Iam a huge fan of the M-14, having been issued one back in 1985. Accurate and semi-auto, it was the best. If i was going to buy an M-16 style rifle in 7.62, I would look into Patriot Arms and Bushmaster. I do not know if Bush. makes one in 7.62. Take a look into Rock River Firearms, they may have wat you want. They have a product good enough to equip the DEA, FBI and other Federal agencies, so they must make good hardware.
Originally posted by Tellminator: Recently I've decided to finally buy my dream weapon, the M4/M16. After a bit of research I found out that there are versions with gaspistons (bether then the normal M4 gastube system in my opinion). Afterwards I found the call.308 nato advanced marksmen sniperrifle from POF. Since they were looking like M16 sniperrifles but had a biger calliber I decided, thats going to be my weapon. I found the HK417 and the 308. from LWRC the best ones, but they are not yet available (HK417 prob never for civs). The POF has no forwardassist, makes it not my first choice. So now my question is. Are there any alternatives to the POF, Hk417, LWRC rifles in 308.Nato, M16 lookalike, with gaspiston system?
Or are there any M16 versions (in 5.56 Nato) with gaspiston system and at least a 20" barrel?
Greetings Tellminator
Just wait until you try out firing a 50BMG round in a upper with a AR-15 lower!!!! (chuckle).. Yep... someone has already married up those two!!!!
