My BM1 just returned from a conference in CT. at the academy. Many new changes are in the works, one of which is PT standards. They are looking at taking away the male and female and age differences, then making three new catagories. The catagories will be non-operational, operational, and deployable. The non-operational will use the PT standards of today for the 18-29yr olds. The operational and deployable will increase their standards. I don't know if this is true, it's just what my BM1 told me.
I'd like to see a 300 point scale like the other branches. Some units have adapted the Navy/Air Force scales to the CG minimum reqmts as a base score of 210.
Originally posted by CGBM2: It does seem extreme, but I was in a police academy at age 24. The PT instructor was a retired officer of age 65. He outran all of us every time.
I can't help but picture Gny Sgt Tom Highway (Clint Eastwood) in the movie, "Heartbreak Ridge".
About time the CG got serious about standardizing PT. While I agree that PT expectations should be modified to reflect age IMHO Coast Guard PT is weak anyway.
Why have different expectations for deployable, non-deployable, etc.? PT is PT and you're either in shape or not. At any time a Coastie can be thrown into the "mix" and should be physically capable of handling the situation. Isn't that what Semper Paratus is all about...Always Ready?
Of the three Fed agencies I have worked for (one with mandatory PT testing), all took into account gender and age during FIT/PEB tests. Agencies might set a minimum percentage, but that percentage takes into account age.
Originally posted by FlynnPatrick: as a 53 year old having to meet the standards for a 29 year old seems a bit extreme.
Even the Cooper Institute allows for age difference.
I am only 30 and can walk a 1.5 mile faster than some of the station folks I work with. That is sad. The CG is starting to do a good job of discharging chronicly obese people. It must be related to the Great FS "A"!
Perhaps the weight standards should be done away with in lieu of tougher physical fitness standards. There are those who while in physical shape, find it difficult to pass the weight requirements.
I agree with making the standard higher but we also need to make sure the standards are enforced Coast Guard wide. I have been to a unit that people would do 1/3 of the run, get into there car and drive back to the station. Still managed to keep Boat Crew and Boarding Team quals for 4 years. Sets a fine example for new members.
The D7 Master Chief was at my station yesterday and we asked him about this. He said he had not heard anything about this. Who are you guys hearing this from??
Originally posted by Devilcoastie_99: The D7 Master Chief was at my station yesterday and we asked him about this. He said he had not heard anything about this. Who are you guys hearing this from??
I still have not heard anyting as of yet and I have been asking around the Sector. They look at me like I crazy.
Why is there a run in the PT test? Where would anyone have to run anyways? We don't run down the street chasing bad guys like cops. We are on a boats, there is nowhere for a bad guy to run anyhow. We are not in the Army running or hiking in the desert.
I am an AST, which is a pretty physical job, and we don't have a run in our PT test? We have a swim time to meet, but no run.
If they want cardio fitness, why not have a stationary bike test, or a versaclimber test?
There are many other ways to meet cardio fitness without hurt knees and ankles?
Just a thought. I like running, but am no way a fast runner, that doesn't meet I am out of shape, does it?
