I have been searching all over google but I can't find the answer I'm looking for. I was wondering how travel days and ETS leave work. Do the travel days go before your leave? Ex. 60 days of leave plus 10 days travel to equal out to 70 days. Or do they come out of your leave? Ex. 60 days of leave and travel is 10 days so you get paid for 10 leave days. I turned in a leave form that starts 6DEC10. Would the travel start then or would the travel start before that day? I should be getting 12 days of travel. Nobody really knows the answer around work since they obviously haven't ETS'd.

You get travel days when you ETS! When did this happen?

I only ETSd once, but from my understanding, and in my situation. Once you're out, you're out. No travel days.

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Originally posted by azmax64:
You get travel days when you ETS! When did this happen?

I only ETSd once, but from my understanding, and in my situation. Once you're out, you're out. No travel days.

During my tenure running separations for the 1st Cav Div in the mid-70's, this came up occassionally. It's a reserve/guard issue. III Corps Transfer Point always did the calculations, so I can't really give you any hard/fast rules. Regular Army: pat on the back, kick in the azz, and don't let the door hit ya!

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Originally posted by FBoehm:
Regular Army: pat on the back, kick in the azz, and don't let the door hit ya!

That's how mine worked. My dad came and picked me up. The 1SG toured my dad around the battalion area and then we went to Garden of the Gods after I signed out.

Then it was off to home.

The travel days thing is news to me.

Mine was just terminal leave and thats it. In the 1980's you were untouchable for the most part once you started to clear post on a ETS because they didn't want you to run into the start of your Terminal leave. Not sure if that was just the 101st or that was Army wide though.

Long time ago but my memory was it went like this:

1. Final Medical Check.

2. Banned from further PT after the above.

3. 10 days to clear post.

4. Somewhere in the above, exit interview with 1SG and Company Commander where they attempt to talk you out of ETS, shake your hand and say goodbye.

5. Start Terminal Leave.

The issue involves the fact that Guard/Reserve personnel are usually ordered to active duty for specific periods of time, not the entire length of their commitment. Inclusive in the time is that time necessary to complete the travel between the member's unit and the separation point. Like I said, Regular Army (including draftees), it doesn't happen.

Used to be critical when they worried about a Reservist/Guardsman accruing sufficient time to qualify for full GI Bill benefits. We activate units so frequently now, I don't even know if it's still an issue.

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Originally posted by FBoehm:
The issue involves the fact that Guard/Reserve personnel are usually ordered to active duty for specific periods of time, not the entire length of their commitment. Inclusive in the time is that time necessary to complete the travel between the member's unit and the separation point. Like I said, Regular Army (including draftees), it doesn't happen.

Used to be critical when they worried about a Reservist/Guardsman accruing sufficient time to qualify for full GI Bill benefits. We activate units so frequently now, I don't even know if it's still an issue.

I don't know about by unit mob but as a "onesie" I have to use backwards planning to ensure I hit KAF to leave theater in enough time to catch the freedom bird to clear CRC before my terminal leave starts. That means I actually leave my duty position about two weeks prior to the start of my TL. My understanding is you sign out on TL, the clock starts ticking and you head for the airport on your own. I will eventually file a travel voucher and get paid the travel to my HOR.

You get the same time as with a PCS. The only difference is that when you ETS you do not get Dislocation allowance.

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Originally posted by cadav:
I have been searching all over google but I can't find the answer I'm looking for. I was wondering how travel days and ETS leave work. Do the travel days go before your leave? Ex. 60 days of leave plus 10 days travel to equal out to 70 days. Or do they come out of your leave? Ex. 60 days of leave and travel is 10 days so you get paid for 10 leave days. I turned in a leave form that starts 6DEC10. Would the travel start then or would the travel start before that day? I should be getting 12 days of travel. Nobody really knows the answer around work since they obviously haven't ETS'd.

Active Duty soldiers only get one or two days of travel when they PCS within the 48 states. You get leave and travel when PCSing only - Not ETSing.

Your confusing TDL - when you PCS you get 10 days of free time to house hunt (married only).

Also soldiers who are RETIRING get this - not for ETS - Retiring soldiers get 10 days for housing and job hunting as part of seperating for retirement.

You can find the above information in the Army Regulations for PCS and Retirement.

If you don't believe me - go to the AG Transfer Point and they can give you the exact Army Regulation - I don't have time to hunt for it for you tonight. You also have an S1 at Battalion/Brigade with all of the answers to your questions.

So please stop talking to the barracks lawyers and go talk to those who will actually process your paperwork - S1 and AG transfer point.