Original post by MIguy001:

ALCON!!!

As we know, we all have had or still have security clearances issued by the US Government. We were or are trusted agents of that information and have sworn to the government we serve and the people that empower it... to protect that information. We must maintain than even here. We also know that because of our positions close to the command elements of our units that we are knowledgeable of several non-classified but sensitive operational issues (OPSEC). We must limit the violations of OPSEC and avoid them at all costs. Below is a non-exclusive list that can be added to regarding topics we should agree on to not talk about and if broached on these boards, delete them immediately:

- Any classified information
- Intel Sources and Methods
- Any possible classified information
- Do not discuss TTPs of current ongoing intelligence or military operations.


Ok, so what can/will we talk about? Well, I'm far from the ending authority on this subject but:

- Day to day activities of specific MOSs that we are knowledgeble on
- AIT
- Non-specific operational activities (refining the definition from goarmy.com for those who don't speak MItalk)
- Declassified or non-classified duty locations (those who know, should understand).
- Our units... old and current. But not operational activity.
- Unclassified missions of units, those that can be found on the web and approved for release by PAO or the Unit.

Others may feel free to add to this list and I encourage them to do so.
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"Let the blood of the infantry flow through your veins,or the blood of the infantry will be on your hands."
-GEN John A. Wickham, Jr. speaking on the responsibilities of MI soldiers.

This applies across the boards.
OPSEC is OPSEC.
Don't violate it.

You can add PERSEC to the mix as well.
Name, rank, ssn, etc. is a no go.
Use your best judgment. If it ain't good enough, I'll use mine.

You can, and should notify a moderator should you discover a violation of any OPSEC/PERSEC information.

G'day.

OPSEC & PERSEC enforcement rules are inflexible. Although personal and service information may be pieced together from data collected from other sources, that has no bearing on the enforcement of OPSEC and PERSEC rules on these boards. If you don’t enforce these rules yourself, I’ll enforce them or 1IDVET will enforce them or staylor101st will enforce them, well you get the idea.

The moderators should not be the only enforcers of the OPSEC rules.

I expect everyone to abide on that rule, our national security depend on it.

DSO OUT !!!

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Originally posted by drillsgto:
The moderators should not be the only enforcers of the OPSEC rules.

I expect everyone to abide on that rule, our national security depend on it.

DSO OUT !!!

DSO, thanks for the re-inforcement. We should not have to make people enforce these rules, they should be more than eager to enforce the rules if only for enlighted self interest.

roger that!

can I add that it is a federal offense to photo copy the military ID? and that alot of businesses and dependants dont know this... I work for a company and I am one of the few reps that tells all military people that I talk to not to allow anyone to photo copy thier military ID.

OPSEC is a topic that will never be fully understood by the American Public.

During Granada, the american news media were briefed on the operations and they agreed to withhold their stories for a specified period of time. The French news agencies however weren't restricted. So the american public media (tv, radio, and others) picked up the french news stories because the american reporters were doing their best to assist with OPSEC.

During Iraq some of the embedded reports were really trying to do their job but without being aware that they were providing valuable information to any intelligent analyst that wanted to watch them. So even the commanders during the invasion of Iraq didn't really have a very keen sense of OPSEC.

The "Civilian" leaders are not interested in OPSEC. They are interested in "getting re-elected" so they have to play to the public. Just because our leaders aren't very OPSEC minded, that don't mean that we can afford to be lax.

During WWII "Lose Lips Sink Ships" was a watch phrase. While I was in the army (for 26 years) we didn't talk about troop movements to anyone including our spouses and family. It was something that just wasn't done. Today the deployment of a reserve or NG unit is placed on National Television for everyone in the world to see.

It provides information to the "enemy" about when, where, and what type of unit is being deployed.

Not just Army units, but Marine units, Naval Vessels, and air force aircraft. They are all part of the OPSEC picture that makes it easier for an enemy to use our desire for freedom of information to hurt us.

The reason folks in Washington dont understand
OPSEC is because the think its an acronym meaning an OP-pointment with thier SECretary,after work..

before stating whether something is a FEDERAL LAW, make sure to SPECIFY AND KNOW THE LAW, otherwise it's hearsay and is usually challenge by lawyers.

If photo copying a military ID IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW, that needs to be addressed by the HIGHER UPS including your AKO account and briefings by JAG and on down the line.
This is especially necessary for reserve soldiers like myself because we have civlian employers aside the military!
Please be clear and concise when making a regulation or law statement for the person indicating the ID photocopying!

I try hard to practice OPSEC/COMSEC..that was branded to me in active duty during the cold war because of KGB agents living in the U.S. now we have AL QEDA and other muslim fanatics which are many. People ask me where I was deployed to. I just tell them, I cannot reveal, it's sensitive cause it was and very much. We are briefed on that before and after deployments. Unfortunately, some soldiers are too lax even the higher ups and sometimes OPSEC goes unchecked. A good chain of command always addresses this issue!

Think of it this way,we are on a web-site that has a tremendous amount of proffessionals both active and retired,this people held clearences
at some level or another,do you not think a site like this could compromise our national security if these pros became reckless in conversation???
We must police our own..and not try to impress
by talking more then we should..intel is like a puzzle every piece is sooner or later found and the puzzle put together..I am sure our communications are monitored on a daily basis on this site,and thank God we are because our brothers lives depend on it..lose lips,sink ships....think OPSEC....

I am very sorry. i did not know i could post that 9-11 thread. That was my mistake it will be kept confidential and I promise you it will never happen again. Wish me luck in BCT.

Sorry Guys.

Did you change ur screen name? it says you have only one post.
The real reason for this post is so that I don't have to read "lets get it on" everytime I go to the discussions page. I"m tired of seeing it in the upper right hand corner of my screen.

OPSEC/SAEDA Briefings are an annual requirement in the Army, unfortunately in many cases it gets overlooked. I also notice that Code of Conduct doesn't seem to be stressed the way it use to be.

ALOCN,
While we are on the OPSEC note let me add a note from the Force Protection side of the house...
Watch your back drop when you are snapping photo's. Make sure you are not showing gates, defensive positions, common loads of equipment, maps, etc while you are taking photo's. You may only post one picture that gives info, but if everyone in the squad does it, the bad guys piece that stuff together.

You get the idea- Out here.

It's amazing the questions addressed on OPSEC when actually on duty little is said to ensure that all understand what OPSEC really is. I think that sould be addressed as well.

But the real reason I even looked in here was I was I am looking for a post by Gen. B. McCaferty named "sound Off"

REGARDING THE PERSON ASKING ABOUT JOINING THE MILITARY. You might need to go see a recruiter, because there different types of felonies that maybe WAIVERED during the enlistment process. That includes misdemeanors. If for example some offenses is applicable to the LAUTENBERG or domestic violence requirements regarding background checks, such offenses would be a cause for a rejection. Judges sometimes allow certain individuals with certain offenses as an alternative to incarceration such as certain offenses includng some felonies, give an option for such individuals to either JOIN the military or go to jail. When i came in during the cold war in the 80's, some servicemembers were given that option due their offenses!

Before you get discouraged, check with the recruiter, cause they can always file waivers coming from their superiors and if need be to a congressman or woman and all the way to the president to pardon someone so they can enter in the military with such records. it's all about ATTITUDE AND ONE'S HEART. There are always exceptions to the rule depending on circumstances and what the powers that be decides.
That would be my advice based on my experiences.
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Hey morons, this thread is about airheads putting out sensitive information over the internet that haji and Ivan can read.

Go post your lame questions and advertisements in your own thread. Better yet, grab your nuts and go see the recruiter and stop dick dancing around.

Please keep the questions related to OPSEC/PERSEC.
Any others will be deleted.

G'day.