About the alleged Harassment of the Major/murderer at Ft. Hood; What would happen to a soldier who "harassed" a superior? I know he had his car keyed and a bumper sticker ripped off. Generally speaking. are there records of harassment and discipline of any offenders? What would the consequences be?
I have never heard of an enlisted troop dumb enough to harrass an officer. I am sure it has happened before, with some very negative reprocutions for the enlisted person. ie, AR-15, jail time, chaptered out, etc.
Originally posted by dghealy: About the alleged Harassment of the Major/murderer at Ft. Hood; What would happen to a soldier who "harassed" a superior? I know he had his car keyed and a bumper sticker ripped off. Generally speaking. are there records of harassment and discipline of any offenders? What would the consequences be?
After something like this people and the media try to rationalize what could have been done to prevent such a thing OR who or what is to blame. It's only human to do this.
I would not subscribe that he was harrassed or pushed into doing this nor would I surmise it had anything to do with his religious beliefs. This guy was a loner, and he lost touch with his sanity. Thats what we are going to see unfold here, IMO.
It happens in the Army, thats why they control access to Arms and Ammo so strictly. It's why they mentally stress new recruits so heavily in the initial weeks of Basic Training.
He was allowed to live off post even though a bachelor officer because of his rank, which I think was a mistake in wartime. Hopefully they will correct that.
I agree. I asked because I didn't think harassment could be a factor. In fact, I would surmise, although I have no way of knowing, that the military, as a preventive measure, is quick and fierce when it comes to any harassment of Muslims these days.
This Major doesn't sound like someone who got pushed too far. Sounds to me like he got interested in something, fell off the deep end, and took it to the extreme. I'm glad he didn't die. Paralysis seems worse to me. Hopefully they don't execute him either. I want his paralyzed ass to get butt raped in Leavenworth. I bet those guys in there already have plans for him.
You know....it just seems a little weird that a trained professional psychiatrist would have allowed some ding dong soldier rattle his cage like that. This dude was supposed to have had the tools, the tricks of the trade to deflect or even shut down someone who was harassing him--if that was indeed happening. So how would a trained psych allow some people harass him for his religion and actually let it affect him?? I'm just not buying the whole "soldiers were harassing me" line....if the guy wasn't a psych, sure, perhaps I could buy it...but given the guy's profession...not so much.
It's why they mentally stress new recruits so heavily in the initial weeks of Basic Training
Ha ha hahhahaha don't know when you went to BCT but how do they "mentally stress new recruits so heavily" by taking their cell phones away for a day????
That is one of the major issues they don't STRESS 'em enough and the little psycho's, emo's, ritalin popping, recruits are allowed to pass right on through. Got to keep those numbers up dontcha know.
Ha ha hahhahaha don't know when you went to BCT but how do they "mentally stress new recruits so heavily" by taking their cell phones away for a day????
That is one of the major issues they don't STRESS 'em enough and the little psycho's, emo's, ritalin popping, recruits are allowed to pass right on through. Got to keep those numbers up dontcha know.
1982 back when the DS could still lay hands on you (and beat your azz) but it was heavily and officially discouraged.
However, your complaint was a complaint back then as well and I heard it from the NCO's when I showed up at my unit from Infantry OSUT. So reading your post it's hard for me to determine if it's a problem or a perception.
I saw my Nephews class in 2007 and spent probably 4-5 days at Ft. Benning in two visits and they all seemed to be very well disciplined to me.
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One of the Mil Blogs has a link to a European radio talk show re Ft Hood. Don't go there. It's a separate reality. I got the impression that the drill Sgts at my sons basic loved the kids...well sort of. but there was a genuine concern that soldiers be ready.
It happens in the Army, thats why they control access to Arms and Ammo so strictly. It's why they mentally stress new recruits so heavily in the initial weeks of Basic Training.
Sadly, Eric, this is not truely the case any more. Not here at Ft. Jackson. I don't believe that it is "Relaxin' Jackson" or "Slackin' Jackson" any more, but these Soldiers here have way too many liberties and distractions to be truely "stressed". The largest stress I see these troops receive here is going more than two days without a shower when they do their FTX/STXs.
Going back to real Basic Training is long over-due. Maybe LTG Hertling will fix things when he gets here.
Ok, quite a jump there. We started out talking about the shooting at Foot Hood and are now talking about how easy Basic Traing is.
That has no relevence to the shootings. That Major didn't even go to Basic Training. As a medical officer, he would have went to Officer Basic at Ft. Sam Houston. Its nothing at all like Basic Training.
I heard that while he was at a Washington D.C. spa getting a sauna after having a massage and a facial he was assaulted and given an atomic wedgie by an LTC of the pale Jewish persuasion--as he tried to flee he was "rat-tailed" by two naked generals. Oh, the humanity! The horror, the horror...!
ALLAH IS LOVE. The person who ripped off the bumper sticker had recently returned from deployment and lived in the same apt complex. He was arrested and fined $1000.
He probably had his "insanity plea" all typed up before he loaded up and step out the door
Nah, I think he's smarter than that--he knows noone is gonna buy an insanity plea, at least not if his trial is a military court-martial. He's gonna try to play the "victim card" to the public and the press to try to short-circuit his inevitable conviction in a military court. Sad thing is, that just might work for him....
I'ld re-up just to be on his firing squad! I'ld aim for his knee caps. I hope they don't do lethal injection. Some people should suffer on the way out.
They should hand him over to the Texas courts. The Army hasn't executes someone in something like 33 years. Texas does it every week or so. Then again, the Army still hangs folks, right?
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