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I stand corrected, CWO Ongemach called, there was an MOU back in 2004 that allowed those HSs who graduated from the IDMT course, the ability to wear the Air Force Aerospace Medical Service Specialist "Senior" level badge.

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Thanks for clearing that up Master Chief. How about the pharmacy techs who get one upon their graduation? I still think IDMT grads should rate the pin but I'm glad to see there is an 'official' answer.
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Yes, those who have graduated from the Air Force Pharmacy course (Phase I
and II) are authorized to wear the Air Force Enlisted Medical Corps pin.

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Hey HSCM,
Well I guess I have been out of uniform for a while. What it was is those SF-IDC's out there that just hate to hear, what took them a year to learn, only took me 4 months. Eek Don't hate the player, just the game. Sorry to hear about our IDHS pin. I will be back in the office on the 3rd. Graduate from another Air Force School on Tuesday. Just can't keep me away.

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I’m curious Bob, just what did the Air Force teach you about running a medical program on board a ship? Razz
 
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Oh, I do agree with you. Learning all of those Navy forms and programs for a year, really helped you out for being in the Coast Guard. Where as the AF taught me how to see patients and conduct the S&EH inspections I needed to know. But, the good thing is for you IDCs, you can go tad on a grey hull. Wink
 
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You all just wish you went through the the official USCG IDHS school like me! I think I need an IDHS "Plankowner" hat!
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Chris,

I bet they didn't teach you how to position a pit latrine in relation to camp in IDHS school. Now that's fancy!

Of course, that would just make me a well educated Boy Scout, now wouldn't it?

Finally, that dream has come true!!! Now on to my dream of world domination...
 
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Originally posted by THREEFLYS:
You all just wish you went through the the official USCG IDHS school like me! I think I need an IDHS "Plankowner" hat!
Chris


Oh Chris, you said "Plankowner". I am sure MC is going to have fun with this one. I will be eagerly waiting for his response. I have seen it a time or 2. Angry Whip

As for the pit latrine. YES, I do believe we had one set up on the fantail. Razz So, there. YES I am good. Looking forward to being back in CG world. 4 days and a wake up. Beer
 
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Just for the record, I was only kidding about the plankowner thing...

I guess it would be more of a Brickowner, huh? Big Grin
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Sorry Bob, no snappy come back. I am wondering, what are you doing on the computer when your suppose to be in some Air Force Leadership school?
 
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Stiring the pot here makes the time pass away faster. Last graded portion in the am. For my Air Force shipmates here at the AFSNCOA, Hoohah. I guess I will have to wait and get that snappy comeback in an e-mail I screw up in the future. Big Bob
 
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Congrats on finishing your program Chief Kulbeth! Beer -Jeff
 
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
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I stand corrected, CWO Ongemach called, there was an MOU back in 2004 that allowed those HSs who graduated from the IDMT course, the ability to wear the Air Force Aerospace Medical Service Specialist "Senior" level badge.


This is 2008... If it isn't in the Medals and Awards manual it is NOT authorized....

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Oh but Wray, it is in there. It's covered by the blurb about being able to wear something earned from another service while in the Coast Guard. It works much like when Coasties are allowed to wear the Navy Surface Warfare Pin that they earned while serving aboard a Navy ship.

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Just because the IDHS pin got shot down this time does not mean that we can't try again. So if you earned the AF pin wear it. You earned it! And if you want a CG IDHS pin keep pursuing it until it's done. How long did it take us to get our IDHS school up and running. It was shot down for a long time but we got it.
So lets start another round and try to get it along with changing the name of the rate back to Hospital Corpsmen. Applause
 
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Hey Chris I hate to burst your bubble but Section 3.E of Uniform Regs list all the allowed badges and devices.

The IDMT pin, AF Pharmacy, AF Enlisted Medical Corp and the AF Aerospace Medical Service Specialist "Senior" level badge are NOT listed as authorized.
 
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CDR,
This is what I'm referring to:
"3.E. Qualification Insignia, Devices and Badges
3.E.1. Insignia
Metal or embroidered insignia are worn to indicate a special qualification or designation. Coast Guard officers and enlisted members who, while a member of the Coast Guard, have earned qualification insignia from another United States military service are authorized to wear said insignia on the Coast Guard uniform as described in this section. The individual Coast Guard member is responsible to provide proof of authority to wear another United States military service’s qualification insignia for inclusion in their service record as appropriate. When multiple levels of qualification are attained, the more advanced qualification is worn in lieu of the previous.
When wearing ribbons or medals, a member may.."

I looked through and didn't see anything that said you're only allowed to wear those pictured.
In lieu of a statement like that, I'd say the above allows the badge.

I could be worng, but I don't think so in this case.

Chris
 
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Metal or embroidered insignia are worn to indicate a special qualification or designation. Coast Guard officers and enlisted members who, while a member of the Coast Guard, have earned qualification insignia from another United States military service are authorized to wear said insignia on the Coast Guard uniform as described in this section.



As has been said if they are not listed they are not authorized.
 
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I don't doubt that as I've seen many on here type that numerous times(never seen it backed up). But, I do beleive in this particular case, it appears to be an interpretation issue. I interpret it as saying you can wear a badge/pin from another service if earned while in the CG. The manual doesn't state that only those pictured are allowed, it doesn't say one way or the other at all. In light of any further guidence, I would go by the wording that is in the manual that says you can wear it. Also, as stated earlier in this thread, there is an MOU that was drawen up for the IDMT school grads. I guess the real question is this: What does "As described in this section" mean? Does it mean you can polish them as is stated or only those listed? It could also be talking about only wearing two insignias or wearing enbroidered on ODUs... Again, as it's worded, it can be up for interpretation.

Maybe someone from HQ uniforms can weigh in here...

Chris
 
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