C'mon, students of Columbia university, take your chance and try a bit discussing and demonstrating in Tehran, that will be some hundred days of fun This invitation was wrong, to invite a thug has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Thank you, Anita. Exactly my opinion.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING...i didnt even have words when I heard he was coming...and then as I started thinking I only got angrier...talk about bullshit to the extreme.
We don't need the Iranian dictator or president over here to belittle Americans, we have our own Micheal More and Jane Fonda to do that. What where these people thinking inviting the enemy over to give a speech???
I think we should let all these "free thinkers" have a taste of what it is really like on a battlefield and get the truth. I say send them all to Iraq and see for themselves. Then when their done there, send them to Iran to see if they can have their "freedom of speech."
Excellent article Ms. Doberman, Columbia University appears to be just one of many institutions that shout a leftist agenda without saying anything themselves. By forbidding ROTC, the university effectively does away without any organized counter to Ahmadinejad's views. Perhaps the president of Columbia University thought this invitation would play into his agenda. If anything, it played into Ahmadinejad's ability to return to Iran and use this visit to "count coup against the enemy" before the religious leaders in Iran, and further dishearten the greater Iranian populace who detest this monster.
This is just typical leadership that is hired at institutions of learning. They have their own agendas and don't give a crap about the students or anyone else for that matter and long as they rake in the money and can two face their way to the top. It's like that in Public Schools too. POLITICS.
My school doesn't have a ROTC for the same reason its a public university. Which has various other sports, clubs, and organizations, but doesn't have a ROTC program.
The closest school that has it is over an hour away.
Oh and even my highschool didnt have an JROTC program for the same reason. Because its in a rich area. The highschool didnt even allow military recruiters into the school.
Great article, I hope that this editorial is also printed in the New York Times, and the LA Times. The people that really need to read this are not coming to this site to get their info.
As a retired military member I cannot even hazard a guess as to what the, so called leaders, of Columbia University were thinking when they invited this madman to come a speak at their institution. He should never have been invited. I did not read if there was even a counterpoint offered to his ranting. Also, it is a sorry time when the ROTC is not allowed to recruit on certain high school and college campuses just because of their affiliation to the so called upper crust.
i thought it was wrong to allow hitler jr to come and give a speech in America. Yes, people say stuff about free speech, but this man does not deserve free speech! 1. he is not an american citizen, and 2. he surely doesn't allow free speech in his country.
As for the ROTC, it just goes to show that nothing has changed since the beginning of American history. The lower classes fight the wars, while the upper classes criticize the military, but dare not join or serve thier country(for the most part)
I absolutely agree with you about the lower classes fighting the war. Upper classes say that they want to enjoy certain things like liberty and justice but when it comes down to it they don't do it. I am not sure what it would take but something should be done to change this situation!
I'd say that allowing the Iranian President to speak is supporting terrorism. While I don't agree with much of the Patriot Act, it is in effect and has provisions for this type of behavior. Send the admin of Columbia down to Gitmo for awhile until this can all be sorted out.
Seems to me no federal funding should go to a school that refuses to allow ROTC on campus. That should include financial aid to individual students, research grants, etc. Rich folks school or not, they'd feel the pinch, and hitting them in the wallet is the only way you'll get their attention.
First off this article speaks to me. It shows how so many people are all talk. I am an asian 15 year old who is a Hurricane Katrina Victim from Mississippi who moved to Maryland due to it. Mississippi is conservative, Maryland is liberal. In my area of Mississippi we REALLY support our troops, we let JROTC in our schools, and even had parades for Veterans day. In some areas of Maryland it has eliminated JROTC. It has also happenend in San Francisco. The Board of Education has passed a bill that pushes JROTC out the San Francisco area. Why you may ask would they eliminate this program? No reason, they just are under no good circumstances. Some of the parents say it is a program that makes kids violent, others say that it is a program that brainwashes you to join the military. But why would counselors put "bad kids" into this program to straighten them out, and why would some JROTC officials tell you that it is your decision to join the military or not. So many people also are under the conception that you will "DIE" if you join because they will send you to IRAQ? It really doesn't make sense. They have passed this bill but the people who have protested have been unheard because it seems no one cares. JROTC builds teamwork, leadership, and discipline it does not make kids VIOLENT.
And about Hitler, Jr. He is a maybe one of the most confused person out there. He really needs to come to America and go to my school where there are a lot of Jewish people who will tell him differently about the holocaust.
I am a veteran and I can not believe that this college does not allow ROTC! This is a sickening gesture from a college! They should remember that they would not be able to have this terrorist come there if it were not for veterans!
Originally posted by Petey_the_dog: I'd say that allowing the Iranian President to speak is supporting terrorism. While I don't agree with much of the Patriot Act, it is in effect and has provisions for this type of behavior. Send the admin of Columbia down to Gitmo for awhile until this can all be sorted out.
Seems to me no federal funding should go to a school that refuses to allow ROTC on campus. That should include financial aid to individual students, research grants, etc. Rich folks school or not, they'd feel the pinch, and hitting them in the wallet is the only way you'll get their attention.
Hooray!!! If a school doesn't want to allow recruiters in or to allow ROTC or JROTC, it shouldn't receive Federal funding. I have thought this all along.
10987109 Basic Training Posted Mon 01 October 2007 05:58 AM Hide Post First off this article speaks to me. It shows how so many people are all talk. I am an asian 15 year old who is a Hurricane Katrina Victim from Mississippi who moved to Maryland due to it. Mississippi is conservative, Maryland is liberal. In my area of Mississippi we REALLY support our troops, we let JROTC in our schools, and even had parades for Veterans day. In some areas of Maryland it has eliminated JROTC. It has also happenend in San Francisco. The Board of Education has passed a bill that pushes JROTC out the San Francisco area. Why you may ask would they eliminate this program? No reason, they just are under no good circumstances. Some of the parents say it is a program that makes kids violent, others say that it is a program that brainwashes you to join the military. But why would counselors put "bad kids" into this program to straighten them out, and why would some JROTC officials tell you that it is your decision to join the military or not. So many people also are under the conception that you will "DIE" if you join because they will send you to IRAQ? It really doesn't make sense. They have passed this bill but the people who have protested have been unheard because it seems no one cares. JROTC builds teamwork, leadership, and discipline it does not make kids VIOLENT.
And about Hitler, Jr. He is a maybe one of the most confused person out there. He really needs to come to America and go to my school where there are a lot of Jewish people who will tell him differently about the holocaust.
10987109 Kevin Nguyen,
Please don't be discouraged by the lack of JROTC in your new area. Unfortunately, JROTC and ROTC have both been having a hard time being accepted in schools and our apathetic society, even when I was your age which was a long time ago. Stay informed about world events, military issues, and above all, stay in shape and do well in school. By staying motivated, you will be ready for college ROTC, or military service out of high school. I noticed that you are interested in the Marines; good choice.
