i was just wondering how common it is for 19d's to get a slot in airborne. i couldnt get it in my contract because there were no slots open at the time but i was told if i wanted to go to airborne school i would have the chance to volunteer and go. is this true?..also what are the chances of being selected for Ranger school as a 19D? i would really like to do both before my first enlistment is up so in 3 and 1/2 yrs do you think this is possible?

19D... isn't that a Scout? specifically a Bradley scout...

i would say that until they can airdrop a bradley, your chances are pretty slim.
but then again, i HAVE been known to be wrong on occasion

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Originally posted by Elesso:
19D... isn't that a Scout? specifically a Bradley scout...

i would say that until they can airdrop a bradley, your chances are pretty slim.
but then again, i HAVE been known to be wrong on occasion

And you are wrong now, brother.

19D is present in every Airborne BCT's RSTA squadron. Also in th 509's Delta Troop at Fort Polk. All of those units are on jump status. Also 1-38 CAV here at Bragg (Corps asset) is still pending jump status for their line troops.

Here's a short list:

1/73 CAV 82ND ABN
3/73 CAV 82ND ABN
4/73 CAV 82ND ABN
5/73 CAV 82ND ABN

1/91 CAV 173RD ABN BDE

1/40 CAV 4TH BCT (ABN) 25TH ID

D/509 PIR 509TH PIR (OPFOR) JRTC

More than a few chances to go ABN for a 19D. Not to mention the school is either already at Benning or will be there before next summer.

You know, I'm so confused. Why didn't they just make the Cav units assigned to the 82nd 1st through 4th Battalions of the 17th Cav? The 17th Cav was traditionally part of the 82nd.

But then, someone in the Pentagon who had a clue about history, should have made the seperate Airbone Bn in Alaska the 551st Abn Bn.

I can has stand corrected

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You know, I'm so confused. Why didn't they just make the Cav units assigned to the 82nd 1st through 4th Battalions of the 17th Cav? The 17th Cav was traditionally part of the 82nd.

The 17th Cavalry regiment is spread throught the Army. Currently, it is assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division, 101st Airborne Division, 25th Infantry Division and the 10th Mountain Division. It also has history with the 173rd Airborne, 198th and 196th infantry brigades. Quite a busy regiment.

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Originally posted by gumbydammit:
You know, I'm so confused. Why didn't they just make the Cav units assigned to the 82nd 1st through 4th Battalions of the 17th Cav? The 17th Cav was traditionally part of the 82nd.

The 17th Cavalry regiment is spread throught the Army. Currently, it is assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division, 101st Airborne Division, 25th Infantry Division and the 10th Mountain Division. It also has history with the 173rd Airborne, 198th and 196th infantry brigades. Quite a busy regiment.

2ID as well. 17th CAV history is as a AIR CAV squadron with infantry attached.

73rd CAV (73rd Armor) has a history in tanks and the Airborne Tank battalion of the 82d. Since the primary troops are Armor branch, I think it may more sense to have the units come from the AR lineage.

17th CAV remain an aviation lineage in the 82d, 101st, 10th MTN, and the newly formed AVN BDE in Alaska.

Former HHT 1/17 CAV (ABN) guy here. Loved that unit.

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Originally posted by gumbydammit:
You know, I'm so confused. Why didn't they just make the Cav units assigned to the 82nd 1st through 4th Battalions of the 17th Cav? The 17th Cav was traditionally part of the 82nd.

The 17th Cavalry regiment is spread throught the Army. Currently, it is assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division, 101st Airborne Division, 25th Infantry Division and the 10th Mountain Division. It also has history with the 173rd Airborne, 198th and 196th infantry brigades. Quite a busy regiment.

2ID as well. 17th CAV history is as a AIR CAV squadron with infantry attached.

73rd CAV (73rd Armor) has a history in tanks and the Airborne Tank battalion of the 82d. Since the primary troops are Armor branch, I think it may more sense to have the units come from the AR lineage.

17th CAV remain an aviation lineage in the 82d, 101st, 10th MTN, and the newly formed AVN BDE in Alaska.

Former HHT 1/17 CAV (ABN) guy here. Loved that unit.

3/17 Air Cav is no longer part of 10th CAB/10th Mountain Div. It got traded to 3rd ID in exchange for a BN of AH-64s (which became the 1/10 Attack).

Matt
SGT, AV
US Army

There used to be a separate outside of military.com website for 19D community. I was supply, considering 19D read their website and decided to stay out. Join that forrum though and you will probably get some guideance and mentoring for 19D. I think if you get jump, pathfinder and ranger tabed a broader range of units LURS-D might be an option then again what does a fueler know?

We have cavs in the 82nd-73rd. One of my friends is an airborne mechanic and reclassing to 19D (and has orders to 4/73rd) and since the 82nd is getting rid of all non-airborne personnel as of Dec 15th there might be a few openings for Airborne 19Ds and any other MOS to fill those spots.

3/73 Armor goes way back. In WWII it was 750th Tank Batt. We had the Sheridian Tank M-1991. The sheridian tank could be dropped by plane and with it's 152mm main gun do a lot of damage. The reason (as explained to me) they put scouts in them was because of our ability to adapt to all situations. It's a shame the 73 Armor was deactivated and turned into a normal scout unit. Having the only airborne armor unit in the world was quite a feather in the 82nd Airborne's hat

I've been hearing its pretty hard for 19k to get into Airborne school, now my question is, im doing OSUT at FT benning, so would it be easier for me to get in, given the fact that they have airborne school there?

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I've been hearing its pretty hard for 19k to get into Airborne school, now my question is, im doing OSUT at FT benning, so would it be easier for me to get in, given the fact that they have airborne school there?

Well first you should start your own thread with a question like this. Obviously MOS 19D <> 19K.

I'll defer the answer to the Jumpmasters on the website, I have no clue how you would rig a M1 tank for air drop and I'd hate to be standing around on the ground when there was one falling to Earth.

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now my question is, im doing OSUT at FT benning, so would it be easier for me to get in, given the fact that they have airborne school there?

The answer to your question is no. If you wanted to be Airborne and combat arms, you should have joined to be Infantry, cavalry, artillery, or combat engineer.

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I've been hearing its pretty hard for 19k to get into Airborne school, now my question is, im doing OSUT at FT benning, so would it be easier for me to get in, given the fact that they have airborne school there?

There is no need for a tanker to be Airborne.

As stated, you picked the wrong MOS.

Any chance a 19D going to Korea can get Airborne down the road? My son was supposed to go Airborne from Ft Knox, but all 35 of them lost their slots to ROTC kids.

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My son was supposed to go Airborne from Ft Knox, but all 35 of them lost their slots to ROTC kids

This doesn't happen when it's in their contract. He must have been offered the course while in training but not able to be scheduled due to the cadet influx down there. I was down the recently and there were cadets everywhere.

It was a pain in the ass for 19 series to get ABN slots years ago when we had the M551 Sheridan (Armored Recon- tho to grunts like me it was a tank). Those died years ago late 80's I think, and they have come up with any replacement for them yet that I know of. Last plans I heard of in the 90's called for Armor to be airlifted into 82 after the aifield was secure- till then use Air Cav. You just have the wrong MOS.

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My son was supposed to go Airborne from Ft Knox, but all 35 of them lost their slots to ROTC kids

This doesn't happen when it's in their contract. He must have been offered the course while in training but not able to be scheduled due to the cadet influx down there. I was down the recently and there were cadets everywhere.

I just got back from reclassing down in Knox and that was the case for many a soldier in my class. Pretty lame seeing soldiers who can pull 300+ on PT tests and then told no after 2 months of being told yes because some kid who wants to play soldier and fall out of no ruck ruck marches wants to jump from an aircraft. That's the Army for you though.