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Google keeps telling me that the only real Air Assault school is at Fort Campbell, but there are some guys in my unit who wear AA badges they got at Fort Lewis, and I've heard of an AA school that was set up in Mosul, Iraq. Also, there is a big AA tower here in Korea on the Hovey cut between Camp Casey and Camp Hovey that was operating up until 2003 I believe. I know a couple guys that earned there badges here, back in the day. What's going on here?...
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Fort Campbell has the only 24/7/365 day air assault school. the ones in other places are only open for a class or two.
does thos help you? |
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Google is incorrect. Currently there are at least two Air Assault Schools. Two in progress that I know of now are: 1. Ft. Benning, GA - USAR and NG. 2. Ft. Campbell, KY - They packed it up and moved it to Iraq when the Division deployed a few years back. I think there is a third still that travels. Now your next question might be: "Well if Air Assault is everywhere, why isn't Airborne as well?" The answer to that question is Airborne is a joint service school, so it is not just a case of moving Army Cadre all the Service Cadre has to move with the school and approve the move or starting of a second school in order for the Jump Wings to be recognized. If you have ever had to get the Marines, Navy, Army and Air Force to agree on anything.....it's a huge undertaking just to get them to agree on things that should be obvious to most people. Took them hours and hours at USAREC HQ just to agree on how many genders there are in the world today. Believe it or not the Marines were pushing for 3 genders in that argument (Navy sided with them). Army was with the common sense approach of only 2 genders. I only heard excerpts from that meeting but the arguments were pretty funny.  Then there is the infrastructure / equipment needed for Jump School. |
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Took them hours and hours at USAREC HQ just to agree on how many genders there are in the world today. Believe it or not the Marines were pushing for 3 genders in that argument (Navy sided with them). Army was with the common sense approach of only 2 genders
hhahaha that was by far the funniest thing I've heard all day...do you by any chance know what the third gender would have been? Anyhow so what I'm understannding here is...Active duty AA school is at Fort Campbell, and USAR and NG is at Fort Benning and there is also an additonal 'school' which is just AA cadre who travel around to different posts to conduct the course...correct? |
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staylor101st Air Assault!  |
When AA School was set up in Iraq, it was set up by the 101st, for their troopers and the troopers assigned to the Division. I read about this in the post paper a few years ago. AA School has changed a bunch in 20 years. What ever happend of duning PT in boots and BDU's? Must be a kinder Army now.
I bet the new AA course at Campbell dosent even have those dam white rocks! Erich we need to check that out in August. |
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The Sabalowski Air Assault School runs several MTTs every year at locations around the country.
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Widowmaker |
Google is F'@ck lyin' to you because it's evil.
 Now go kneel on some rocks and study slingloads.  |
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It was a requirements gathering session for the new Army Accession system that would be jointly used by all service branches. The project was called JRISS. They were discussing the drop down text box for gender for an applicant to the Armed Forces. The Marines and Navy said there should be a "Other" option in addition to "Male" and "Female". The Army countered and asked what the Business reason was for "Other", the example provided was "Transgendered"......then the slams back and forth about service branches started to fly. These were all CPT's and above, BTW. Officers beyond closed doors when they do not have enlisted around.....gloves come off (lol). Bottom line of course is they didn't want a joint recruiting accession computer system so this is how they resisted, IMO.....slow down the work and progress wait for someone above to ask what is taking so long. I suspect with the current Airborne school this stuff goes on all the time each time a change is proposed. Waivers on age had to be very painstaking to get. In the Army, someone over 35 is in pretty good shape relatively speaking, in the Navy they usually have a whole second person under the skin with them. So I am guessing just having the ability to waiver for those above age 35 was tough to obtain agreement on. Just a guess though. |
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Yes, that is on the agenda for Sat or Sun when they have the AAS demo planned. Not following the whole combatives exhibition thing. Is that something the Soldiers want to see these days?  Steve, need some good intel on decent restaurants in Clarksville eventually. |
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staylor101st Air Assault! |
Eirch, lots of eating places by the mall. Lots of restaurants.
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They have had jump schools in other places.
In the 60’s they had a quickie class for those that ended up in the 509th when it was still jumping, before they split and moved it. The same in earlier years during the real need for more Army jumpers. I think the feel for the need of more jumpers has dropped more and more over time after WW2. Now it’s more for hard core emergencies and the need for a large Division like that 82nd that uses different units taking turns on alert status incase of a fast emergency situation, which doesn’t look like will ever happen again with the high tech. air support available now days. I myself do not think the paratrooper will ever go out, for the simple reason, that there is always a chance for large numbers of low fast deployment needed to secure an area without making a big mess out of things for possible civilians needing support in a danger zone. The jets can deploy well equipped troops anywhere faster and in a special such case, more numbers than anything else. Now days, it looks like there are choppers everywhere and some going in have already practiced sling loads and rope burns. I can see how it would be easier to rope dope most anywhere now days.  |
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There was an Air Assault School at Fort Hood, also (late 80's early 90's)
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Formerly MyNewScreenName |
Anyone else heard the rumor they're starting an AA class at Fort Bragg?
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Trust me, I used to be a Recruiter. |
There was also one at Rucker, where I went, and Bad Tolz. Bad Tolz went away with the drawdown of the 90's. I have no idea when Rucker's AAS disappeared. |
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They've had a class before at Ft. Bragg but that was peacetime. Really would be hard for me to believe they could swing it in wartime. I think it makes sense to move the BAC from Ft. Benning to Ft. Bragg. I don't think it will happen because the other Service Branches will oppose it. Makes sense from a travel cost perspective because the Marines and Navy are a LOT closer to Ft. Bragg, NC then they are to Georgia. On the other hand most of the BAC attendees are probably Infantry. |
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"Lord, Beer me strength!" |
Bad Tolz... That's where I'm from.
I am NG and went through the REAL AA course at Campbell in '06. We got slots because Division was overseas and they needed to fill them there. It was fun stuff. Kids in the back seat cause accidents; Accidents in the back seat cause kids.  |
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There will be a MTT team Air Assault Course at Ft. Riley, KS in September of this year. I came across that info somewhere but do not remember where.
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Whatever happened to the III Corps Air Assault School at Fort Hood? I went through Air Assault School there in 1990 and later went through Rappel Master School in 1991 shortly after redeployment from the Gulf War.
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There still is for 11's and other mos that need it to do there job... |
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