Kind of a retarded question that i probably should know but was thinking....

If a Soldier gets assigned to a unit that is a designated airborne unit and the Soldier is not jump qualified yet and awaiting for BAC, is it typical in the guard/active duty, for that Soldier to wear the maroon beret, even without wings?

What about Class A's and the blousing of the pants with boots?

Is there an official regulation, is what i guess i am asking.

The maroon beret is for airborne units on jump status, not individuals. So yes, regulations dictate that a leg paratrooper wear the maroon beret and blouse their class A's. Doesn't make them cool though.

That's what i thought...oh, and no extra cool points neither.

I figured because i see AIT Soldiers wondering around Ft Lee but never got close enough to see if there were any jump wings being worn.

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Originally posted by noestoyqui:
That's what i thought...oh, and no extra cool points neither.

I figured because i see AIT Soldiers wondering around Ft Lee but never got close enough to see if there were any jump wings being worn.

Those would be riggers. They are on jump status DURING AIT because they attend jump school BEFORE AIT.

Today, at the gym, i saw a bunch of LT's unload from a vehicle. A couple had 82nd, 101st...patches and no maroon berets.

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Originally posted by noestoyqui:
Today, at the gym, i saw a bunch of LT's unload from a vehicle. A couple had 82nd, 101st...patches and no maroon berets.

LT's in BOLC are allowed to wear the patch of the unit they are going to be assigned to.

I learned that last week during casual conversation with some cherry LT's on the drop zone.

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Originally posted by noestoyqui:
That's what i thought...oh, and no extra cool points neither.

I figured because i see AIT Soldiers wondering around Ft Lee but never got close enough to see if there were any jump wings being worn.

That would be Charley Company

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Originally posted by hit_it:
LT's in BOLC are allowed to wear the patch of the unit they are going to be assigned to.

I learned that last week during casual conversation with some cherry LT's on the drop zone.

Most 2LTs go to OBC on TDY orders and remain assigned to their commissioning source which permits them to wear their follow on unit patches when they get orders. However, the commissioning sources are not airborne units, so no berets. When I did OBC, I had orders to Korea but no specific assignment until about 2 months into the course. I wore no unit patch up to then. I could have worn the 19th Support Command patch once I got my assignment, but Clothing Sales didnt have the patch. Had a friend who had orders to the 82d. He wore the 82d patch but no beret.

As to the rigger trainees, the training company they are assigned to is airborne. Hence, they wear maroon berets. When I was there, the rigger trainees wore maroon berets with silver colored wings instead of a flash.

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Originally posted by noestoyqui:
Today, at the gym, i saw a bunch of LT's unload from a vehicle. A couple had 82nd, 101st...patches and no maroon berets.

101st doesn't wear a maroon beret, so nothing wrong there.

Here are the SSI options for 2LTs who haven't yet reported to their unit: wear the SSI for their respective BOLC3, wear the unit they're assigned to, or wear the BOLC2 SSI while they are in BOLC2 (Follow Me or 428th FA). We must wear a patch though. I wear the 4ID patch.

Also, 2LTs going to an Airborne unit are not allowed to wear the Maroon beret until they report to that unit.

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101st doesn't wear a maroon beret, so nothing wrong there

The Pathfinders there wear them Sir.

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Originally posted by airdiablo6:

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101st doesn't wear a maroon beret, so nothing wrong there

The Pathfinders there wear them Sir.

Google 101st Airborne Division Association and you'll see color pictures of Active Duty Members of the 101st in the jump status uniform.

(501st STB, PATH.....just a guess on my part)

There is not a lot of them though......just enough to tick off the 82nd's.

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Originally posted by airdiablo6:

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101st doesn't wear a maroon beret, so nothing wrong there

The Pathfinders there wear them Sir.

101st Pathfinders are on jump status, right?

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(501st STB, PATH.....just a guess on my part)

Then it would be a wrong guess.

The Pathfinder companies belong to 4-101 and 5-101 respectively.

501 is the Division Special Troops Battalion (DSTB). The Air Assault instructor (also a jump status unit) are assigned there. Just like the 82d Black Hats are assigned to the 82 DSTB.

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101st Pathfinders are on jump status, right?

Exactly.

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Originally posted by hit_it:
Then it would be a wrong guess.

Oops. Thanks for the clarification though the whole STB classification is new to me.

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Originally posted by airdiablo6:

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101st doesn't wear a maroon beret, so nothing wrong there

The Pathfinders there wear them Sir.

Come on, we're talking about the 101st as a whole. When someone says that they saw people walking around in black berets wearing 101st patches, that's expected. On the other hand, someone wearing an 82nd patch and wearing a black beret causes a stir.

However, you are correct. Attention to detail. I should've said that the 101st as a whole doesn't wear maroon berets as an organizational headgear.

How about this monkey wrench....

A 2LT, National Guard, unit is on jump status, has reported/drilled with unit then moves out for training...

does that LT wear his/her maroon beret?...to BOLCII and III without having been to Benning/jump school?

The unit he is assigned to is an ABN unit therefore yes he would wear it then. Now to really throw a monkey wrench how about a unit not on jumpstatus but affiliated with the 18th ABN Corps. I already know the answer just want to see what others think.

I have a similar qeustion..I report to FT Bragg early march or april and I was wondering if I show up in my black beret with my old unit flash or my patrol cap ?? The unit im in now we hardly ever wear berets we always wear our PC's so thats why im alittle confused.Also when reporting to Bragg do they have you show up in ACU's or Class A's im also confused about this because im From Germany and we showed up to our duty station in civilians because of terriost threats and all that.

If you arrive to Bragg after duty hours, you can report to replacement in civvies. If you dont know what unit you are going to, then dont wear a Maroon Beret, bring your black beret and PC and wear the one they tell you to wear. If you are going to the 82nd, you will wear your PC. Are you an NCO or are you lower enlisted?

Go back ta the C-cap with the clider patch and jump boots.
Looks tuffer and more airborne than that French thing.