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Basic Training |
I am looking to retire in a few months and have been sending out my resume. I have gotten some interest and a few phone interviews but no offers. the company's are L3, LSI and Fleet services. one of my problems may be that I still have until June before I go on terminal leave but the other could be my resume. I have gone to a TAPs class and they said it was good but do they know what every field is looking for? any help or suggestions would be great
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First - congratulations on retiring.
On to the resume. Most guides will tell you to write the resume for the job. That will require a little digging on your part to find out about the company and write accordingly. What can you offer the company? This may require you to have a couple of different resumes - I find that a folder with the company name on it, with the resume I sent them and copies of the application inserted helps. Stay away from acronyms, stuff like that. There are several good guides on how to write a resume. I found the "for dummies" books easy to follow and informative. Let us know how the job hunt comes out. nickap retired and still having fun |
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Good advice by nickap. Make sure that if you mailed multiple and different resumes, that you clearly marked which one are which. There is NOTHING worse that talking to a prospective employer when you don't know which resume he/she has in front of him/her. You might as well kiss the job goodbye!
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"Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?" - Gordon Lightfoot |
mdka,
I see in your profile you are living in FL. If you are looking to stay there, have you ever looked into the Naval Support Activities up in the Panama City area? To be honest, I really know little about them. We (CBP) worked with them, civilians, with training for the US Navy ships. Just tossing out an idea. Best of luck in your retirement. Don |
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Congrats on your upcoming retirement. When I retired I wanted a job in the law enforcement area.
I looked up this retired CWO (Navy) who specialized in writing resumes.He told me to bring every piece of paper I had from the past twenty years. A school, MLE school, SAI traning etc. It was ready in about two weeks. I went to his office and read it and asked myself who the hell is this about? He did a great job, very professional looking package. Submitted my resume and have been an LEO for the last 15 years. Five more and retired with a state pension. Cost was about $75.00 Well worth it. Best of luck to you hotgun |
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Thanks for all the information. I bought the Resume for dummies and i am working through it. I have just run into a little information that may be of help to people looking for employment while still on active duty. I have been putting out my resume and have been getting very little return. I had been beating myself up and all. well I talked to a Hr person of a very large firm and was asked one question and then the conversation was ended ASAP. it was. Was I still on active duty or had I started terminal leave? once I told her I was still active. She told me that by law she could not continue the conversation about employment unless I had a letter from my command or JAG stating that I was authorized to actively seek employment while still active even though I have my retirement orders. She was very nice and I was qualified for a position with her firm. I guess I need to go talk with the command to find out about this. I will report my findings.
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MDKA, that is true but not for all jobs and it all depends on your last job while on AD. When I retired, my last job was in G-A. I did consult w/ our JAG because I was the Business Manager for 3 major aquisition projects dealing w/ 3 different major contractors. I was looking to get what is known and referred as a "safe harbor letter" which means that I am free to be employed by anyone including any of the 3 contractors I worked with. I was told by our JAG that only the Project & Deputy Project Managers needed such letters. With that said, I recommend you consult your legal office for a more clear determination as to whether you need such clearance/letter and whether you are free to talk to potential employers.
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MDKA if your looking to higher onto the RR and want to see my DH's resume...I'll ask him and let you know.
I know to keep it short and sweet. Employers dont have time to dig through 3-4 pages of resumes. |
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I actually teach resume writing to my classes. Even bought all the good books on how to write one. When I was hunting for a job, it was recommended by a job placement service I was listed with, that although I had a good resume, trying to do so for myself was like a lawyer trying to defend himself, just too close to the case.
Went to a resume service and they liked mine, but said it was "too military" so we worked on it for a number of hours (only cost $100). Afterwards she gave me 5 copies and said I could have another 5 if I needed them. I didn't! Got a damn good job. The next time I personally need one, I will probably pay for it rather than try to do it myself.  |
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I am finding that writing a resume is like writing a book on a subject that you have no clue about and then getting upset when nobody buys it. I did get a lot of advice from the TAPS class but trying to figure out what USA Jobs wants and then what a normal employer wants its enough to drive ya batty. Now if you take them and past them together, that is what I have created. Now add the online applications and now you have another cow with mad cow disease. All in all I am looking at this as a growth experience and am looking froward to see what comes of it all. 20 years is enough for me. God bless those that go on to do more.
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MDKA, I hear you. But be aware that the resume requirements for Federal Government jobs are VERY different than any other resume. They require that you indicate how many hours a week you worked and what your salary was too. What I recommend is that you have two resume; one for the private sector and one for Uncle Sam. Nevertheless, before submitting either one, the objective of the resume should be tailored for the job you are applying. The other stuff as to where you have been and what have you done should remain the same. Good luck.
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Anyone looking to go into private industry right now should be aware that the economy is slow and that your search must be a persistent one. I trust you all know how to apply for government jobs, so here's my perspective for private job resumes:
I suggest you tailor each resume you send to the recipient to whom you send it. I've seen numerous resumes come across my desk as a private employer. From an employer's point of view, reading a resume is outside one's daily operational thinking, so you must make every word in your resume relevant to the job, to the organization, to the field of work, and most importantly, to the decision-maker. If that means you have to translate military speak into civilian speak, do it or find someone who can. Basically, you've got to make your resume relevant to what the decision-maker was doing 10 minutes before he or she picked it up. That may require a little research and creative thinking, which is easy with the internet now. Your resume to a small firm will be different than one to a large organiztion, where a HR manager will vet the resumes. HR managers are looking to comply with the guidance the managers gave, and therefore, will care more about your job abilities than your personality. The obverse is true if you're writing directly to the manager, who will give more weight to whether your personality will fit in with the rest of the team and whether you appear to have enough energy and excitement to keep you going. Tailor the resume to the person reading it. Keep in mind that the function of a resume is just to get you an interview. And the function of an interview is to show the interviewer that you're easy to work with and not a freak. Sure, it's good to show that you have the skills and training to do the work, but that's a given for almost all candidates who are granted interviews. During the interview, your resume will be a talking-piece to facilitate conversation, so give it simple bullet points instead of lengthy prose. Also, let the interviewer go through your resume and talk about it, but don't let the conversation be constrained by it. Feel free to look around the office and chat about ancillary things you may have in common. And by all means, have questions ready to keep the interviewer talking. The more the interviewer talks, the better the interview will go. You should grease the skids of conversation so that the interviewer thinks, "that was a fun break from my daily stress, I like that guy/gal." As for getting that interview, the process doesn't end once you drop your resume envelope in the mail. Track each resume sent in an excel spreadsheet along with your follow-up activity. Managers can be busy and, frankly, hiring new people feels like a time-consuming chore. So if you follow-up with a thank you letter and a phone call, you're helping keep the task of hiring someone at the forefront of an otherwise busy person's mind, and you're helping keep yourself at the forefront of the pool of candidates. Persistence pays off. One applicant kept calling me with polite follow-ups even though I told her I had no position for her, but eventually, I passed her on to another firm who did have a position, just to help her out. A friend of mine finally hired an applicant who had applied year after year, and that applicant turned out to be one of his best employees. The resume cannot capture all of who you are, so keep pushing for an interview, whether by phone, networking, etc. Good luck. |
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Many larger comapies now use software to assist in weeding through the resumes they have received. Resumix is one of the more popular tools used. Basically all resumes are scanned and then when a position opens up the HR dep't will perform keyword searches to pull up the resumes that contain words applicable to the position.
You can add a separate page to the resume and title that page "keywords". Load that page with words associated with your skills and the type work you are seeking. You don't need sentences or any structure on that page, just words. Long before the hiring mgr ever sees a resume it has first been pulled up from the database and screened by HR. One of the companies I worked for had literally thousands of resumes in their database. One other thing. If I received a resume that was poorly written or contained misspelled words I threw it in the trash. Take the time to make sure your resume is as perfect as you can make it. Use an easily readable font as well. |
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