Dead In The Water

The American President did not even award the CMOH personally.

BBC Documentary video (1 hour 48 minutes long):
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ussliberty.html

Can we make you feel better, and award you something similar for yours ?

10th! Did someone from your family get hurt or worse, when the Liberty was attacked? Unless you think we just woke up from a deep slumber, no one ever believed it was a mistake or an accident. Israel did this, got away with it and to this day no one in our government will stand up to them.
Now, having said this, what is this constant "wearing" of the tin foil hat, you seem to be so fond of? If you don't lighten up, people are going to start talking about you.

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Dead In The Water

The American President did not even award the CMOH personally.

BBC Documentary video (1 hour 48 minutes long):
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ussliberty.html

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Interesting read Gunny, thanks for the post. Rather than spinning my wheels attempting to find the center of an issue, I tend to start at both extremes and work my way in from there to arrive at my own conclusions of what the level ground is and what scenario closest to the truth, actually is logical and therefore most likely the truth.

I agree with your signature that the "Republic", the Constitutional Republic that we actually are is in need of restoration. Politicians and Washington D.C. as a whole are operating out of control and have thus gained the stance (IMO) of elitist dictating to the masses. They longer work for us, they work for themselves and their own interest.

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Possibly of some interest to the thinking Marines among you.

Gunny (alledgedly, since there is no info in your profile), I am first of all a little bent on your insinuation that Marines who don't agree with your views on Israel might not be "thinking". I have already had words with the originator of this post (10th) about the "systematic harassment" by Israel of those of us who were in Lebanon and he apparently doesn't think a lowly LCpl who spent four months in the country would know more than a General who spent one day there would!

As SSgt DeCurtis says, we are all aware of the USS Liberty incident, and we are all aware of the apparent facts that indicate it was no accident but if we are not obsessed with this to the point that we are willing to start throwing out hate-speak about Israel then we get labelled as "AIPAC" by some turd (10th) who doesn't even know us but thinks he has the right to judge us because we don't stand squarely behind him?

Do me a favor "Gunny", we only need one anti-Israel obssessed individual here right now and 10th has claimed that spot already! Why don't you just introduce yourself and try to enjoy the board instead breaking out the foil hat and looking over your shoulder for black helicopters....lets let 10th do that.

Semper Fidelis,
Mike

I'm beginning to think that the same person is doing all these posts...

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I'm beginning to think that the same person is doing all these posts...

WORD!

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Originally posted by SSGTDeCurtis:
10th! Did someone from your family get hurt or worse, when the Liberty was attacked? Unless you think we just woke up from a deep slumber, no one ever believed it was a mistake or an accident. Israel did this, got away with it and to this day no one in our government will stand up to them.
Now, having said this, what is this constant "wearing" of the tin foil hat, you seem to be so fond of? If you don't lighten up, people are going to start talking about you.

I can't believe my eyes a Marine wrote this ^ !

Some people around here can't get enough trashing Jane Fonda and John Murtha but when it comes to Israel murdering 34 American Sailors and Marines you tell me to lighten up or people are going to start talking about me !

'Semper Fidelis' means always faithful, not just limited to trashing Jane Fonda, John Murtha but trashing murderes of 34 American Sailors and Marines and wounding 173 others.

Yes, Sailors and Marines are my family unlike you implied above they are not mine (or yours) !

Sheesh Marine, think a little more before you write !

Let them talk about me all they want, 10th has the USS LIBERTY six !

Semper Fi, to all real Marines

The alledged "Gunny" wrote:

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Shove it

Thats very nice there "Gunny", you really know how to start off on the right foot apparently? Perhaps you were never taught that everyone has a right to their own opinion? Perhaps you are just the kind of guy who thinks that you and you alone are right and everyone else is wrong?

Well, if thats the way you think, you are a mighty presumptuous SOB in my opinion! Fill out your profile if you want to start *****in' me out, don't hide in cyber anonymity.....Marines don't hide!

Semper Fidelis,
Mike

Quack, Quack, AIPAC

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/the-power-of-israel-in-the-united-states

Quack, Quack, TURD!

Nice drop gunnyg.

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Quack, Quack, TURD!

My, my...you are touchy about AIPAC aren't you, hmmm ?

As I said before TURD, just because I am not anti-Israel doesn't mean I am lobbying for them.

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Originally posted by Beirutvet83:
As I said before TURD, just because I am not anti-Israel doesn't mean I am lobbying for them.

Sure you are

Looks like they may need more Americans:

Israel wages war on army of refuseniks

WHEN Arik Diamant's mother discovered her son was to refuse to do reserve duty for the Israeli army she pleaded with him to reconsider his decision, even offering to resign her job and work in a charity of his choice.

But the former paratrooper and now software engineer was determined. "My parents were terrified that the ramifications of such a decision would destroy my life and endanger my career opportunities," said the 34-year-old co-founder of the Courage to Refuse movement.

While Diamant and 600 fellow reservist refuseniks are making headlines over their choice, the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) is becoming increasingly worried that the numbers of Jewish men evading army service is on the rise. The trend is particularly noticeable among those aged 18 to 21, who under Israeli law must serve three years in the military.

New figures reveal that 27% of potential male draftees do not now serve in the IDF, with this year's draft being the smallest in recent times.

Nothing has enraged army chiefs more, however, than potential recruits dodging front-line service while parading their talents on TV. Matters came to a head recently when the line-up for the Israeli version of the hit show Pop Idol contained several contestants who were at the age at which they should have been doing their military service.

The Prime Minister's Office is now planning a blacklist of entertainers so that councils know who should not be hired for civic celebrations. Councils are also being urged not to employ conscripts or reservists - Israeli men are expected to commit to up to one month a year on reserve duty that ends when they reach their mid-40s - who refuse to fight unless they have been legally exempted.

Last week, a petition was also being circulated by high-level Israeli businesspeople calling for the business community to discriminate against draft dodgers seeking employment.

Evidence of a new get-tough policy emerged earlier this month when an appearance at a 'Friends of the IDF' concert by pop singer Ivri Lider was abruptly cancelled.

His agent, Roni Arditi, said the singer, who did not serve in the IDF, was asked to put his name to a letter declaring he "likes the IDF and respects its values". When he reportedly refused to do so, his appearance was cancelled.

The reasons for the lack of commitment are clear. The recent Intifada and last year's bloody war against Hezbollah in Lebanon, are fuelling the reluctance to sign up. IDF officials also insist the yuppification of Israel is a contributing factor, with the MTV and internet generation much more interested in making money than serving at an army checkpoint on the West Bank.

Ultra-Orthodox Jews are excused from military service on religious grounds. But leaving aside those who live outside Israel or have criminal records, 7% are being excused because of either medical conditions or "psychological incompatibility".

According to the IDF, however, the number of those claiming "psychological incompatibility" has increased markedly.

One IDF official said: "While there are those who cannot serve for legitimate psychological problems, there's a need to target people who turn up at recruitment centres with a letter from their psychiatrist saying they're mentally unfit, and the next minute they're running a hi-tech company.

"These are people who have decided to not take part in what we view as an integral part of an Israeli's social responsibility. It's as if they've sent a letter to the tax office to say: 'Sorry, I don't feel like paying taxes this year.'"

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1356412007

How very like a child you are! Despite my protestations you are going to stick to this line of accusation....you are truly the TURD that I have declared you to be! Better fetch your foil hat TURD, I am sending the black helos over to check on you....because being "AIPAC" I have that kind of power don't I?

You are a f*cking waste, so long TURD!

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Originally posted by Beirutvet83:
How very like a child you are! Despite my protestations you are going to stick to this line of accusation....you are truly the TURD that I have declared you to be! Better fetch your foil hat TURD, I am sending the black helos over to check on you....because being "AIPAC" I have that kind of power don't I?

You are a f*cking waste, so long TURD!

Don't go away mad, just go away !

Ditto!

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You are a f*cking waste, so long TURD! QUOTE]

You still here

As long as you are sh*t stain!

You guys need to take this to the boxing ring....oh, wait...