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Obama says he will "veto" extension to budget to fund troops
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The GOP passed an extension to the budget to allow the continued funding of troops and government based on last years budget.

Obama says he will veto the GOP budget extension.

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Earlier, the GOP-controlled House of Representatives passed a short-term government spending bill that would delay the impending shutdown by one additional week.

The measure, which passed 247-181 in a largely party-line vote, funds the Pentagon for the remainder of the current fiscal year.

However, Reid declared the short-term extension a "nonstarter," and the White House promised a veto if it reached Obama's desk.
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Republican leaders are "confident that those Democrats who believe it is important to fund our troops and make real spending cuts will prevail upon Sen. Reid and our commander in chief to keep the government from shutting down," Boehner said.
 
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compromise? Oh the political theatre. Watch the republicans attach a shizzload of riders to it.

say it is not so...wonder what the TEA party thinks of such a large portion of the budget getting a free pass.

"Shut it down!"

lol.
 
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compromise? Oh the political theatre. Watch the republicans attach a shizzload of riders to it.

say it is not so...wonder what the TEA party thinks of such a large portion of the budget getting a free pass.

"Shut it down!"

lol.


I agree 100%. Shut it down! The president will get the blame. The president gets the credit for jobs he doesn't create and gets the blame for jobs he doesn't lose. But the important part is he will be blamed. Shut it all down.

The Republican House has proposed and passed compromised budgets. The Democrats reject it. The Republican lead House has proposed and passed an extension and Democrats have rejected it. Democrats don't want compromise. They want all the glutonous spending they asked for. Republicans, Americans, The Tea Party and most Conservatives don't want out-of-control spending.

Democrats and especially NoBama are 100% responisible for any government shutdown. Those missing paychecks will remember this. Count on it. They can read same as you and I. Or at least "I" and they know who passed a budget and who rejected it.
 
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All temporary spending measures does is give Democrats breathing room. It's time to let government do what Democrats have brought to America... America is out of money, thanks to Democrats.


So what Boehner is saying and trying to get signed is bad, right?
 
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All temporary spending measures does is give Democrats breathing room. It's time to let government do what Democrats have brought to America... America is out of money, thanks to Democrats.


So what Boehner is saying and trying to get signed is bad, right?


It's not bad or good. It's doing America's business. I wouldn't fight for an extension. In my opinion Boehner is just going through the motions but sticking to his guns. He can't do "nothing" because that's Democrat's job.

He's trying to get a real budget with real cuts, that Americans want. That's why it's being rejected. Boehner is trying his best to pass a real budget, that Americans want.

My point (and my opinion) which you quoted, is per usual, takne out of context. He should do exactly that. Stick to his and don't compromise merely to get another week to discuss this. Stick to his guns and if that means a shutdown, then it's Democrat's fault. Obama will reject everything that is not in his plan. So what's the use of him trying to compromise. It only aids Democrats.

What he should NOT do is compromise merely to get an extension. That just gives breathing room to Democrats.

For the record, I "oppose" an extension to the budget. I'd rather see government shutdown.

Let the government shutdown and let the chips fall on Democrats!

Update: This shows just how weak a leader nobama is.

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A fourth White House meeting in 48 hours between President Barack Obama and congressional leaders failed to reach agreement Thursday night on a spending plan for the rest of the current fiscal year, increasing chances for a partial government shutdown to begin in a little more than 24 hours.

The talks involving Obama, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, as well as Vice President Joe Biden, ended less than an hour after starting.


Some meeting:

President (Democrat)
Vice President (Democrat)
Senate Majority Leader (Democrat)
House Speaker (Republican)

He's a bit out-gunned but holding his own.
 
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So what's the use of him trying to compromise. It only aids Democrats.


America does not agree with you, but you are entitled to your opinion.

They want cuts, as do I, but they want a compromise.
 
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So what's the use of him trying to compromise. It only aids Democrats.


America does not agree with you, but you are entitled to your opinion.


Please cite your statistics that American wants what Democrats are proposing.

And don't bother coming back to say you meant "compromise" because that's all Republicans have been doing. They have compromised far beyond what they originally budgeted. Compromise to Democrats means "only our way".
 
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I'm pretty sure at this point you would accept any manner of dysfunction and calamity so long as you could rationalize it being the Democrats fault.
 
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Originally posted by FormerEmbassyMarine:
http://forums.military.com/eve...072001#9400095072001


I realize you just like to cut and paste, vs. actual reading. But your cut-and-pastie doesn't support that America disagrees with me. Probably out to read what you post, before you click POST. Big Grin

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I'm pretty sure at this point you would accept any manner of dysfunction and calamity so long as you could rationalize it being the Democrats fault.


I accept everything, since I have no ability to affect it one way or the other. But you are correct. It will be Democrat's fault. Wink

Regarding compromise:

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Republicans are on stronger footing when the subject is spending cuts: more Americans believe the Democrats have come up short on this front than say the Republicans have gone too far.
 
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America does not want a shut down.

That is certain. Those recent stats support it. The stats say a compromise, either among dems or republicans.

American adults want a compromise.
 
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America does not want a shut down.

That is certain. Those recent stats support it. The stats say a compromise, either among dems or republicans.

American adults want a compromise.


I see the problem... you are trying to use a national poll, to rebut my comment (which is purely opinion about why compromise isn't a good idea; NOT that a compromise shouldn't be attempted), and claimed that the poll shows America disagrees with my hyphotetical question.

How ludicrous!

Your "argument" was aimed at this "hypothetical question" of mine.

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So what's the use of him trying to compromise. It only aids Democrats.


I made a statement. Somehow you think that poll shows disagreement with my comment. That's ridiculous; not to mention totally illogical. Roll Eyes Or should I say Big Grin

Bottomline: The President will still get the ultimate blame. And that's a good thing.

Poll

Forty-two percent would blame President Obama or the Democrats in Congress and 37 percent the Republicans in Congress in the event of a shutdown reports a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
 
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hmmm. whatever you say man. I mean you actually think conservatism "speaks" for America. Are you sure? 2006 was not that long ago. Thank goodness our Constitution allows elections every two years.

I am saying you do not. Therein lies the difference between you an I.

Conservatives think they speak for America when they are in power. And to be fair, so do democrats. Funny thing is, conservatives NEED, let me say that again....need independents to even BE IN POWER.

Remember that in 2012.

"Take our country back".

lol. Yep, take it back to borrow and spend.
 
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Your entire point of view is based on whatever makes Obama or the Democrats look the worst in this situation. Most Americans don't care about that juvenile ****, they want a functioning government. You are sporting circus tent in your pants over the idea of the military not being paid because you think that will score political points which is all you really care about.
 
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Your entire point of view is based on whatever makes Obama or the Democrats look the worst in this situation.


Horsepucky!

My point is to pass a budget that America wants. They want congress to rein in Obama spending. What I say, is pass a budget that America wants; NOT one that Obama wants. If Obama's refusal to allow the budget to pass, causes a shudown in government, it's just an added benefit.

I would rather see a Conservative budget and no shutdown. But I would rather see a shutdown, than a liberal budget, with out-of-control spending on social experiments. And excessive spending to get part-time, low-paid jobs is a waste of money. And anything spent on ObamaCare is a waste.

Good conservative budget and I'm all for it.

I guess that just shows to go you, that you really don't know my views. Wink
 
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You are a weasel plain and simple.
 
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Obama told republicans he won, and for them to sit in back. So, they sat in the back and waited for the democrats to produce a budget, but the democrats were more interested in hiding their spending schemes by not passing a budget for the past two years, hoping to get enough idiots to vote for them in 2010 so they could retain power. The democrats were derelict in their Constitutional duty to pass a budget, and the Americans saw through their ruse. The result was the biggest landslide republican victory in history.

For the past two years, we've watched a juvenile delinquent and his cast of used car salesmen wage a war on prosperity in America and ruin our economy. Now the republicans are in charge. They are doing the job the democrats didn't want to do, and precisely what the American voters want them to do. The republicans won, so now it's time for the derelict democrats to sit in the back.


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