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I can all ready assume that I am going to regret this, but since you are convinced that none of us consider all the options;
What are your solution(s) to The Iraq War: 1)Remember, what ever actions you initiate will have obvious reactions (we'll point those out for you). 2)The plan has to include 20 year "down the road scenario". 3)Let's keep it short and concise, elobaration will develop in successive post. |
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MODERATOR, MARINE FORUMS I'm innocent! I'm the John Boy.......  |
Bro,
I reinstated Harp, but not 10th. So far my thoughts have proved true. They work together as a team and do/can not work independently. I highly doubt You will get a response. Semper Fi Johnny Blaze If you're gonna shoot, shoot! Don't Talk. |
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Figured as such, it's easy to shout epithets from the dugout.
Like going to planning meetings for drill weekend and shooting holes through a higher ranked schemes...if you don't have the answers or solutions, shut your f'ing pie hole and then stand the F by. We had a Gunny that would constantly step on his crank like that with no answers....on top of that he was EKMS, doesn't exactly play a big role on drill weekends. |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
Hey I took a few days off. Don't jump to conclusions so fast
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
I think that the parameter of 20 years down the road is unrealistic |
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Seriously, it's not worth discussing how we got there or why, what now. We all realize the implications of pulling out before stabilization. Iran has all ready (covertly) admitted that it will invade Iraq, that can't be good. The Soviets appear to be in cahoots with the Chinese, the Chinese are definitely in cahoots with the N.Koreans and don't care if we know it and now (the Chinese) have the largest and most eloborate spy network in the world, implemented against the U.S., our borders are a sieve, racial division is alive and "well" thank to Michael Vick and his cultural differences and this "ain't" solved with bipartisonship. If Dems and GOPs can't come together on at least half these issues, the next administration will fail just on being given a train wreck that's waiting to happen.
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How can you think you are going to pull out of Iraq without thinking about or planning for 20 years from now? You don't think that our final destiny in Iraq will have implications 20 years from now? |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
I think that they will, but what they will be at that time I am not sure. The world changes rapidly these days as information is not a suppressed.
I would start with getting our troops out. Don't bomb Iran. Getting the Iraqis to govern the three states. Split the revs from the oil and other goods/services among the three states. Engage the necessary neighbors to help ensure stability. Rebuild our forces here at home and the military infrasturcture that Bush and teh republicans allowed to collaspe. Secure the borders/seaports/airports, etc. Secure our crumbling infrastructure at home. Start an energy policy that has teeth and will work. Just for starters |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
Engage Iran in diplomacy. They want a stable region also.
Bombing Iran is still on the table. The effort has not occurred due to the fact that the Navy would be like sitting ducks in the water. I don't believe that they are involved with the Iraqi war like the press says. The current effort is not suitable. The troops have to leave. Give peace a chance. You have to engage in dialog. It is work and you only want to support the war effort it seems. As long as US Troops are on the ground the neighbors will be reluctant to hel They all want a stable Iraq like it was before. The US presence is not helping. Secure the ports with the proper technology also. Only 2% of the cargo is screened still, 6 years after 911. This president is a failure. If the feds can fund Iraq, they can fund the crumbling infrastructure. |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
I watch only one MSM news show and that is "Countdown" with Keith Olbermann.
I get my news from other sources. The Bushites still want to bomb Iran. The are being pushed by other extremists from the MENA region. So you are attemtpting to apologize for 1000's of dead Iraqis and nearly 4K US Troops? It was Bush and his lies that got us into this war. Not Saddam. So what if he violated a few rules. There are other ways to make him pay without 5 years of stupidity like we have in place now. The status quo is unacceptable and nearly unforgivable. Luckily I don't have to worry about the latter. |
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"Bowlers have BIG balls!"  |
Listen boot, just like Olbermann, you have proved yourself more of of a liberal hack, rather than a Marine here to interact with the other Marines. Your agenda is clear. Why don't you just move along back to moron.org or whatever other websites you frequent that spew hatred for the President and our defeat in Iraq. You're either Olbermann in disguise or his lapdog...
   "The World's Finest" |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
I differ with your thoughts. I was always a 1st Class PFT, Rifle Expert and made SGT in 4 years.
You should rescind those words as they are false and just provide you with false bravado. YOu just don't like the truth as I present it. Well it is what it is. I am not going to sugar coat it. I don't watch FOX |
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"Bowlers have BIG balls!" |
Your DU talking point rhetoric is getting old. You have no credibility when all you do is repeat what the Keith Olbermanns and Michael Moores of the world say. I don't watch the Crescent News Network.
"The World's Finest" |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
Simplicity is the key to brilliance.
Brilliance never gets old. |
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Basic Training |
Harpdawg,
Iran isn't willing to help they are waiting for us to leave. If they wanted a stable Iraq they would help now then we all can leave. Pulling out troops without thinking about the long term effect is irresponsible. If you believe that by us leaving that the Iraqis are all of a sudden going to unite you are mistaken. On you're point of Saddam breaking a few rules...would you let one of you're men break any rules that were handed down. Just my opinion |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
We have warships off the shores of Iran. Would you want to help with that ppointed at your country?
Going into Iraq with no plan was irresponsible. My plan is not to have us return. We had a civil war here too. No one could stop it. Are the few rules he broke worth the price that we are all paying now? |
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Basic Training |
Our war ships have been in the Perisan Gulf for the last ten to fifteen years. I do not believe Iran wants to help anyway.
Our civil war could have been stopped but leaders in the south and the north didn't want to my any concesssions, many southern farmers wanted to keep their free labor. Few rules what firing on American jets enforcing the no-fly zone yeah I see your point We leave that whole region will engulf into a war zone and we will be sucked right back in from our treaties with saudi arabia and kuwait.but you are right we leave now and let another generation deal with the fall out... great plan |
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Basic Training |
and for a FYI our civil war did have foreign troops helping both sides
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
I know but they did not invade out country to help us |
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20 days! 11/19/07 |
At least American lives will be saved. If they want to kill each other let them. You sound just like the guys who got us into this mess saying that it'll be a cakewalk |
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Basic Training |
why because i believe in what we are doing...anyway haven't you heard from obl himself...if we want to be left alone all we have to do is convert...maybe in your eyes we should do just that to save American lives...oh wait after that there won't be any Americans...and lastly I never said it was going to be a cakewalk...doing something good isn't always easy but hey call me what you will, my opinion is my own |
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Humble member of the 10K poster club. |
what a freaking lie its always been said to be a loooong and dangerous GWOT |
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