I always tried for a full patrol of dry goods, a full patrol of my main meats and frozen vegetables and as many fresh and dairy items as I could squeeze.
Port call replenishment would be for little things, produce and dairy or anything new that we would decide to put on the menu for the second half of the patrol.
I tried to wean my inventory down so when the patrol ended we would have about a week or so of food (enough to get us through holiday routine). That way I could turn my whole inventory over . Inport, I only ordered enough for the week. That way when we began the next patrol everything was fresh and new.
But yeah, 7-8 weeks of main dry and frozen is doable. I'd even pack a little more if we were doing a GTMO patrol since nothing is guaranteed with those services.
I always had a cycle menu and load guide done before ordering. It helps out tremendously.
Tom; TWO MONTHS of frozen food on a 210?? No way bro I was FSO on (2) 210's and 6 weeks was tops at most. You must not take Ice cream. On Durable and Dauntless, ice cream went on first!!
Im starting with 4 weeks frz 6 week dry and shooting for 2 weeks produce and dairy, this will be my first patrol on this ship and I just dont want to drop the ball, any more advice from some shipmates who have been in the same situation will be welcome.
Yeah, make sure your Jack O' the dust packs the freezer in accordance with the menu structure. You can also plan your load guide according to "planned" port calls. Some are great for receiving stores while others are really bad. Remember: Coffee, ice cream, and corn dogs are 3 things you never want to run out of.
Originally posted by seniorchiefbriansmit: Tom; TWO MONTHS of frozen food on a 210?? No way bro I was FSO on (2) 210's and 6 weeks was tops at most. You must not take Ice cream. On Durable and Dauntless, ice cream went on first!!
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Senior, with a doubt ice cream first. Haha. Remember FSC Rodabaugh? He taught me how to pack a freezer. Basically it was "Chief, there's no way this food is going to fit!" His reply was "We'll find a way" and he dove in there with me.
What worked really well on the Reliance was we had a shelving system along one bulkhead. We could fit all our veggies and meats and a good chunk of seafood just along that one bulkhead. The shelves worked great because you could unpack everything and secure it in the shelves all the way to the overhead. We had big deep bins for each kind of meat that fit on the lower shelf. That's an azzload of bulky boxes that are no longer there.
cutter76- I would try and pack a few weeks more of frozen and dry. At least a week more for each space. Leave enough space in front of those freezer fans and pack everything else to the overhead. Don't bank on port calls.
Two weeks of produce and dairy is good. We created a standard load guide for dairy and produce to start each patrol and then replenished as needed.
I'm telling ya, you can fit more than what you're planning for. My names on my profile, look me up on global. I'm at Sta Tybee Island.
My last station was CGC Active in Port Angeles, WA. Our patrols were usually 7-8 weeks long. I always took enough dry stores for the entire patrol plus enough to get us through the first week back home.
As for frozen items I always ordered enough for about 6 weeks but we always stopped in San Diego on our way down south about a week after leaving home port and thats where we picked up enough frozen items to last for the rest of the patrol.
There were a few times when I wasn't sure if it was going to all fit in the freezer, but it did luckily. As for produce and dairy I ordered enough to get us to San Diego and I then Topped everything off while there.
Cutthroat, thats pretty funny I struck ss on the active in 96, im looking at 5 weeks frozen and 6 weeks dry i can still see the ceiling so im thinking I could fit two more weeks. still some room in dry stores, not much but lets see how this goes, Boot FS1 ,first patrol. I am bound to make a bunch of mistakes! Thanx for all the feed back...........
Let us know how everything worked out when you get back. Somehow I think you'll do a fine job. The very fact that you're reaching out for advice and taking this seriously shows your desire to succeed. Fair winds and following seas, shipmate!
Ahh, I remember my 210 days, laying on my back, with the freezer ceiling about 2 inches above my nose, reaching over my head for something at the front of the freezer, only to slide it across my belly and drop it to the messcook, haha. That was fun. You will be suprised at how much you can fit on a 210. With practice and a couple trips, you will learn to save space. Taking things out of boxes helps. Combining cans instead of all frozen vegies helps. Ummm, dry mixes instead of some canned things, smallest packaging available. NO STEAMBOAT ROUNDS! You'll get the hang of it. Part of the job is being able to fit 10 lbs of §h!t in a 5 lb box....
Originally posted by spacecowboy1: Why don't coasties read..the book says..length x width x highth - 2 inches for pipes..and 18 inches from lights..uh..riiiiiiiight.
What does reading have to do with it? That tells you how much area you have but not how much food you can store. Everyone sails with different sized items.
Oh, and going by your post that would mean we could pack boxes tight in front of the blowers. That'll go over real well when your chill boxes and freezers shut down because of no air flow and the new refrigerant conversion. On the bright side, A-gang will get real proficient with adjusting new refrigerant with the old system.
I guess my scarcasm has escape you..tom...(hince the riiiiiiiight) sc
personally have never and have never heard of anyone actually measuring the food storage area's ..i suppose it is just one of those questions to fill a book.
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Some one posted to load by menu.. not always the easiest thing to do. Replace most menu chix on the bone with chix brst. use most of the chixbrst cases as an entire subfloor. try using duplicite cases of fz veg as the next layer near bulk heads. fill voids wil deli cuts and hotdogs in kryo vac if you pack the freezer with same items in one location instead of speading them out the game of tetrius is alot easier. I say this with 6.5 yrs on a 210. I could fit almost an entire patrol of frozen items in one loadout except icecream. That was restocked as available. cheese lasts a pretty long time don't freeze unless you really have to. you can also set up you purchases in other ports be fore you go. just let them know your time to arrive via message. I've found it very helpful sending the order to portcalls without a delivery date. this way you can get what you want when you want it even in gitmo. Also try a commisary gitmo,P.R. have pretty ggod ones and I know they take orders. Good luck
Well Shipmates first patrol is 5 days from being over, seemed like the plan worked with the exception of ketchup (3cs went in first 8days) and saltine crackers! (to keep the SA's alive during there first patrol). All and all the galley did a kick a$$ job ,and we had a superbowl party underway that the galley did that I would put up against any bar/party any where! ( go giants ) Thanks for all the feed back it helped out alot. Can't wait to do it all again in about 8 weeks! Thanks shipmates
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