I guess that's what I'm kinda lost on...that msg that just came out didn't specify any unit type...it just said IDFSO....sooooo that leads me to believe all IDFSO's get it...or is there somewhere else that says otherwise.

(I'm sure there is something, I'm just asking cause I haven't read it before)

If you guys really want an answer - shoot an email to your RFMC, that is what he gets paid for. Besides, he is the second smartest RFMC with the first name Phil, so he can handle the questions! (You can tell him I said that)

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Originally posted by Chewy13:
I guess that's what I'm kinda lost on...that msg that just came out didn't specify any unit type...it just said IDFSO....sooooo that leads me to believe all IDFSO's get it...or is there somewhere else that says otherwise.

(I'm sure there is something, I'm just asking cause I haven't read it before)

T. INDEPENDENT DUTY FOOD SERVICES OFFICER: SDAP IS AUTHORIZED THE
DAY THE MEMBER REPORTS FOR DUTY IN AN ELIGIBLE BILLET ON AN 87-CPB
OR 110-WPB.

RET

...and look at that...I'm blind!! lol thanks MC...my eyeballs don't do well pulling stuff out of an all caps msg...

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Originally posted by truebm2:
All thi meant for me, is now I am definatly not washing dishes. Our cook goes to sleep before me, wakes up after me, and does not work as hard as I do. So for $150 he can wash some dishes.

Standing By.....

Boats,
At most Afloat IDFO units the FS has far more duties than just cooking. I was the FS, stood underway and inport watches, unit LSM, BTM (later to be BO), asst security officer (BM1 hated the code loading, love ya Jason!) Logs officer, senior watchstander (and all the joy that goes with that) and for a number of the non-rates, mentor.
Many underway IDFSO units are like that. that is the intent of the extra pay. Prehaps your FS needs to start taking on more collaterals and begin preparing for FS1.

Just my 2 cents.

I have been on a 110, an 87, and a construction tender and I don't think there should be ANY IDFSO pay for ANYONE. Whatever happened to select and direct if nobody volunteers? It may be a less desireable billet because of all the collateral duties, but man up and do your time. If you make rate, be prepared for the billets that are available in that rate and if you don't like it either advance to the next rate or stay an E4 and accept the billets you will be assigned to. Just my opinion so if I offend anyone it wasn't my intention.

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Originally posted by brums79:
I have been on a 110, an 87, and a construction tender and I don't think there should be ANY IDFSO pay for ANYONE. Whatever happened to select and direct if nobody volunteers? It may be a less desireable billet because of all the collateral duties, but man up and do your time. If you make rate, be prepared for the billets that are available in that rate and if you don't like it either advance to the next rate or stay an E4 and accept the billets you will be assigned to. Just my opinion so if I offend anyone it wasn't my intention.

GUNS

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Originally posted by brums79:
I have been on a 110, an 87, and a construction tender and I don't think there should be ANY IDFSO pay for ANYONE. Whatever happened to select and direct if nobody volunteers? It may be a less desireable billet because of all the collateral duties, but man up and do your time. If you make rate, be prepared for the billets that are available in that rate and if you don't like it either advance to the next rate or stay an E4 and accept the billets you will be assigned to. Just my opinion so if I offend anyone it wasn't my intention.

You of as course intitled to your opinion. Here is the reality - If someone is selected and directed, and can not do the job, or just does not want to, they get busted and transfered. How much does that cost vice so IDFSO pay? huge gap there....

I loved being and IDFSO, and would do it again, for the love of the duty, not the pay. Did not get it then, would not ask now. But the fact is we need people to WANT to do the job, do it well, and do it correctly, or it costs you and I (as taxpayers) far more to keep swapping out till you find someone than if you pay someone a bit extra to entice them.

Thems the facts.

Ian

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But the fact is we need people to WANT to do the job, do it well, and do it correctly, or it costs you and I (as taxpayers) far more to keep swapping out till you find someone than if you pay someone a bit extra to entice them.

I have a couple questions or problems with this.

If they can't do the job why are they in that pay grade?

And since when did one get to DECIDE what duty they would take in the military, as opposed to going where they are ordered and doing the best job they can?

If they don't want to do the job then it is cheaper in the long run to get rid of them as opposed to letting them slide through 20 years and then start collecting a retirement check.

There is nothing in the FS Pracs that states one needs to be IDFSO qualified before advancing to PO2.
There is however a course to prepare FS2's for their IDFSO tour.
Our RFMC has worked dilegently to obtain the IDFSO pay for the FS rate...one of the few perks we get from HQ. It's nice to see that the job these junior FS's perform day in and out is in the minds of Senior CG leadership. Remeber they have to give the OK after hearing the pros and cons of not offering this incentive.
With that said one does not automatically recieve said pay. There are some things the member needs to accomplish before they get it. So they actually earn it rather than it being a hand out.

Not all FS2's are cut from the same cloth. Some are great but need structure or suppport from there fellow FS's while others are more suited and capable of performing in the IDFSO role.

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Originally posted by Ex_CG_GM:

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But the fact is we need people to WANT to do the job, do it well, and do it correctly, or it costs you and I (as taxpayers) far more to keep swapping out till you find someone than if you pay someone a bit extra to entice them.

I have a couple questions or problems with this.

If they can't do the job why are they in that pay grade?

And since when did one get to DECIDE what duty they would take in the military, as opposed to going where they are ordered and doing the best job they can?

If they don't want to do the job then it is cheaper in the long run to get rid of them as opposed to letting them slide through 20 years and then start collecting a retirement check.

Not saying that you get to choose where you go, but folks can and do fail (on occasion) just to get out of the riggers of a position.

And as far as just getting rid of them, recruiting and training new folks is incrediably expensive. I agree, if they are a lost cause, dump them. but some folks just need some enticing, and that is what IDFSO, Special assignment, etc pays do.