my dad retired in 1968, went in army in 1946. got his 214's sent to me and from what my mom sais , hed had more ribbons then they indicate. he past away in 1993 and had ceremony and baried in arlington. is there a way to find out more specifics about what he qualifies for, and if in combat. he never lked wearing his ribbons, have many picts of him in uniform wth no ribbons. any help would be greatly appriciated. iam trying to put his stuff in display and want to show it all

Do you know all the units and time periods he served with them?

As for the order/mounting of the ribbons- you can always look up Medals of America- they not only sell them (most of the staff are vets) but their web page shows the ribbon and the order in which they are worn.

what i can find on the 214's is alot of apo #'s. and alot of units. some stuff is ahrd to read. let me find away to post it and i will, lol

jan 1949-march 1952 eucom, 8/54-5/57 affe, 12/59-1/64 usarpac germany, 12/65-1/67 usarpc korea. 9/54 hq 1st bd 14th inf apo 25, 10/55 svc co 14th inf apo 25, 2/57 hq&log co 1st cg 14th inf apo 25, 2/49-11/51 btry c 32nd fabn apo 154, 10/51-2/52 again wth 32nd apo 16,9/54-5/57 1st bn 14th inf regt apo 25( in that time also wth hq&hq&log co 1st cmbt p), 12/59 btry c 3d gun bn 80th arty apo 696, 12/65 hhc 802d engr bn (const) apo 96271. tats the best i can find, sent for more info.

This is how I see it as written:
2/49-2/52 Europe
2/49-2/52 Battery C 32nd Field Artillery Battalion

8/54 Army Forces Far East, (Hawaii)
9/54-10/55 Headquarters 1/14th Infantry Regiment. 25th Infantry Division
10/55-2/57 Service Company. 14th Infantry. 25th ID
2/57-5/57 Headquarters & Logistics Company 1st Combat Group 14th Infantry 25th ID.

The 25th division was in Korea until 1954 and returned to Hawaii from September through October of that year. 14th IN. regiment reorganized and redesignated 1 February 1957 as Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battle Group, 14th Infantry, and remained assigned to the 25th Infantry Division.

12/59-1/64 Germany
12/59 Battery C 3rd Gun Battalion 80th Artillery Battalion (possibly Darmstadt Germany)

12/65-1/67 United States Pacific Command (Korea)
Headquarters & Headquarters Company 802d Engineer Battalion (construction)

Now, which awards is he listed for? From the details you posted I can think of three awards he may have qualified for with one of them having been created after his passing so he certainly never knew about that. Keep in mind, that in the Army, you wear the unit awards for that unit while you are a member, but you only keep them if you were in that unit when they were awarded. You may remember him wearing certain awards but that was for only while he was in that unit.

yea that unit award ould be the french croix de guerre. on the paperwork i have gotten so far, i see him given ribbons for the following:good conduct x3 poss 4,ww2 victory, army of occupation(g), national defence(looks like twice, aound 52-56, and again around 65-68 ) he also has the american campaign medal rib on 2 dif uniforms, not that there is a ribbon for it but 2 letters of appreciation, i also seen where he went to nco academy on ft meade in 1958 for 5 weeks which by what ive read should allow him the nco ribbon. now am i correct in that he may qualify for the armed forces exp medal for time in korea in the 60's and the kdsm? what about the other ones for korea? wasnt one issued for the cold war or is that a commemorative? how can i tell if anything would be combat related, eib, cib, cab or such. was he in combat, iam told he was involved wth something in korea at some point? i appriciate your help with this, i just want it to be accurate as poss, he didnt like ribbons at all and have many picts of him in uniform without them. was told by my mother that he would avoid wearing them whenever possible

The ACM ended 2 March 1946 and the WW2VM on 31 December 1946. If they are listed on DD214's that's pretty official but you haven't indicated any units for 46-49.
The NCO ribbon (NCOPD) is not backdated prior to it's creation unless the person had active service past that date in the early 80's. Your father was retired before that.
He should be eligible for the KDSM for his time in Korea and his listed service in Korea also falls within the time period for the AFEM for Korea (1 October 1966 - 30 June 1974). An official request for correction of military documents would have to be made with supporting documents like his 214s showing his presence in those areas and could take anywhere up to a year to have reviewed and processed if relief was granted.
Does his 214's list any Military occupation Specialty (MOS)? CIBs, EIBs, are MOS related and CABs are currently not backdated before 2001.
Currently the Cold War Medal is only an authorised military award in the LA National Guard. For all others it is commemorative.

Unless he was involved in DMZ actions in Korea, his listed dates of service do not cover periods of combat unless his unlisted time 1946-2/1949 gives evidence of involment in something.

i can see where he had this training in 57 for bt 1 indoct says wvd under weeks and under completed it says korea vet, andsomething for cbr trng in 57. under principal duty in 49-51 mos is listed as 4844(facannoneer), prime mvr dr(3844)51-52. the apos for these are 154, 16. on paper covering 46-48, i see med sect 2154 wth no princ duty listed but looks like frt lee. see h&s co 2d engr c bn- trk driver in 47 and in 48 9?06 tsu-tc cob warehouseman. in 50's i see duty mos's as 632.70, 643.60( these were in apo 25&7 something to do wth fecom), 631.70( motor sgt ft eustis, va) i know he was wth infantry during some time in korea wth the 25th infantry div, seen where he went to inf training and have sev picts wth unit and him wth arm band for infantry. i know he was wth the 8th army in 60's, was also wth the 7th inf at some point, and 14th inf. i cant thank you enough for your help

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Currently the Cold War Medal is only an authorised military award in the LA National Guard. For all others it is commemorative.

Alaska also has an authorized Cold War Medal for it's National Guard troops.

Say: "Thank you Governor Palin."

BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED
It looks to me that he started at Ft. Lee Va. in 1946-48
Fort Lee was home to the Quartermaster Replacement Training Center.
His listed assignments there include during 1947 Headquarters and Service Company 2nd Engineer Battalion as a truck driver and in 1948 with the 9206th Transportation Support Unit-Transportation Corps. This would seem to indicate he started in the Quartermaster Branch.
In 1949-52 he switched (possible after a re-enlistment) to the Field Artillery and served on the gun till becoming the driver for the prime mover (vehicle) which probably came from his transport experience.
1953 unaccounted for. From what I have seen he seems to have spent the Korean War years in Europe but there seems to be a gap in the unit history for 1953. That is a very important year for the Korean War and we don't seem to know where he was.
In 1954-57 he went to the 25th Infantry division as they were returning from Korea to Hawaii and as far as I can tell he seemed to have changed MOS to vehicle repair specialties (632, 643) working probably in the motopools for the 14th infantry Regiment (that fits his assignments to the Headquarters, Service Company and HQ&Log companies of that unit) Whether he joined them in Hawaii or had joined them in 53 while they were still in Korea I can't tell from what's been posted.
1958 unaccounted for.
12/59-1/64 he returned to Germany and again served with an Artillery unit ,Battery C 3rd Gun Battalion 80th Artillery Battalion (possibly Darmstadt Germany).
Whether back with the guns or still in vehicle repair I'm not sure but if his APO 7 connection with the MOS 643.60 means 7th Army that would fit with the 80th Arty Bn which was attached to the 7th Army in Europe at that time and would seem to mean he was tacking care of the vehicles for Battery C.
In 12/65-1/67 We know he did make it to Korea (United States Pacific Command Korea) with the Headquarters & Headquarters Company 802d Engineer Battalion(construction) in what function I'm not sure but possible in vehicle maintenance. Engineer units can function on their own or be attached to other units.

His other details of : cbr trng in 57 means he trained in Chemical, Biological, Radiological (probably a 2-4 week course) in1957. Today they call it Nuclear,Biological and Chemical training.
I can tell no date for 631.70( motor sgt ft eustis, va) possibly the missing year 1953?
His 'med sect 2154 wth no princ duty listed but looks like frt lee' I have not been able to confirm as a unit or MOS.

'seen where he went to inf training and have sev picts wth unit and him wth arm band for infantry. '
I'm not sure what 'band' you mean and while I see nothing denoting an Infantry MOS in the posted info, by being with the 1st Battalion 14th Infantry Regiment he would have been exposed to Infantry training. Nobody is completely support in an Infantry Battalion. Everybody shares the pain.

'i know he was wth the 8th army in 60's, was also wth the 7th inf at some point'

The 8th Army is the overall command HQ for the FECOM and would have been when he was with the 25th and in Korea with the 802nd. The 8th Army would have been over both of those units.
I'm thinking that's the 7th Army, not 7th infantry. That's the HQ he was under in Germany. The 80th Arty Bn was directly attached to the 7th Army as far as I can tell.

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Originally posted by shuman14:

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Currently the Cold War Medal is only an authorised military award in the LA National Guard. For all others it is commemorative.

Alaska also has an authorized Cold War Medal for it's National Guard troops.

Say: "Thank you Governor Palin."

I knew you'd cover my six on that on, shuman14.

tried to look up more info, infil course 5/51 wth btry c 32d fabn apo 154. was with the 25th in inchon,korea for 30 days before they moved to hawaii. mos 631.1 54-58, 54 hq 1st bn 14th inf apo 25, 58- mos 631.1 wth 175th ord co(fs) ft meade. 52-53 hq&hq det 36th qm bn ft lee. then i found these: 49-52 eucom, 54-57 affe, 59-64 usarpac germ, 65-67 usarpac korea. hard to read these copies, some has dark background and cant read writting.

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Alaska also has an authorized Cold War Medal for it's National Guard troops.

Say: "Thank you Governor Palin."

Are you sure it wasn't the Cold Weather Medal?

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Originally posted by JerryG:

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Alaska also has an authorized Cold War Medal for it's National Guard troops.

Say: "Thank you Governor Palin."

Are you sure it wasn't the Cold Weather Medal?

Nice!!!