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Bullet Sponge |
Just wondering if anyone has any info or opinions on this. I was looking online at some Army qualification badges, specifically for marksmanship. I saw the familiar "RIFLE" bar that most of us have hanging under our Qual badges. I also saw "M-16" and "M-4" bars. Why are these provided if we all wear the RIFLE bar? Is there a different requirement to qualify for the M-16 bar as opposed to the RIFLE bar? Just strikes me as odd.
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"A Marine on duty has no friends." |
AR 600-8-22 only has the following as authorized Weapons qual badges:
Table 8–2
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Bullet Sponge |
Heres a queston. I see the RIFLE and CARBINE bars. Whats the proper one to wear when you Qual with an M-4? I've always heard the M-4 reffered to as a carbine.
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Bullet Sponge |
On another note, how cool would it be to qualify with a flamethrower?
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"A Marine on duty has no friends." |
Field Manuals on Weapons qual-23 series
check it out...you need AKO to access...which I dont have...maybe you can find out there....... I used to have a copy of FM 3-22.9. Good Training Aides for a drill weekend.... |
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Member |
I used to like the stay brite insignia. Some people didn't like the squared away look, because they would have to look harder to read the qual bars. Idiots!
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"A Marine on duty has no friends." |
no one saw my bad GTA joke...
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NSDQ |
There was a message stating that M-4 qualifications could be shown with the CARBINE bar.
Who knows when/if it will find it's way into AR-600-8-22 |
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"A Marine on duty has no friends." |
got a copy or URL for that message?
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Member |
A little history:
Rifle use to be for a Springfield or Garand Rifle in WWII and Korea. Carbine was for the M-1 Carbine. In the Vietnam era, the M-1 Rifle, M-14 Rifle and M-16 Rifle were all used. A typical soldier did Basic carrying a M-1. went to his first duty station and carried a M-14 and when deployed got issued a M-16. The M-1 carbine was also still in use. During that time the M-14 and M-16 Bars were used. After Vietnam, all other service rifles and carbines were phased out in favor of the M-16A1 and later the M-16A2. The Rifle Bar then became the only qual bar. I've heard of the Carbine Bar coming back for the M-4, but I haven't seen anything in writing. |
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Member |
We used quals as follows:
M16-Rifle M4-Carbine M249-AutoRifle M240/M2-MachineGun M9-Pistol Keep in mind that each expert badge had promotion points.  |
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Bullet Sponge |
Well crap, maybe I can squeese some promotion points out of my last qual then.
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Experienced Member |
Here's a question, I qualified expert with the SAW a few years ago when it was my assigned weapon. When can I no longer wear the "auto rifle" bar on my marksmanship badge?
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Basic Training |
No bar for grenade launchers anymore?
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If you were never given the opportunity to re qualify, I would think it would still be valid. When I qualified in basic on the grenade course,I kept it for life as I was never sent to a grenade qual range ever again. |
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Basic Training |
In AIT, we were told to take ours off, as it had been six months. (Grenade) |
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"A Marine on duty has no friends." |
Sorry, but I think the grenade qual bar is the lamest badge in the military since the baloon pilot badge.
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Member |
I am 100% sure whoever told you that, is fos. FEM, you only say that cause you throw like a girl!   Aren't those George W's Air Nasty Guard wings? |
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Bullet Sponge |
I was looking but cant seem to find the reg on it. But yes I believe you can wear your qual bars after 6 months even if you do not requalify. I continue searching...
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"A Marine on duty has no friends." |
670-1 gestapo hard at work......  Beware of de soldiers in die sunglazzes...dey are vatching you. Instead of saying "papers please" we say "show me your 2-1 and all supporting paperwork please." |
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