I have been combing through AR 670-1, the internet and the posts on military.com but cannot find definitive answers to several question regarding the wearing of Full-Size/Miniature medals on the Dress blues.
I am attempting to rack my awards as medals for formal events but do not want to end up looking all chewed up.
1) I am tracking from AR 670-1 that either the minature or the full-size can be worn on the blues (w/ the exception of the MoH as it only comes full size). Is this correct? (ref. 29-8 pg. 271, 29-9 pg.272)
2) How are multiple awards decorated with medals. (i.e. ICM x3 = ribbon and 2 stars)? I have multiple awards that require decoration and have not come across anything regarding this.
3) Can all awards be obtained as medals? I am located in Germany right now and my C&S is somewhat limited, but even looking online several awards do not appear to come in the form of a medal, only a ribbon. (example: NCO Professional Development, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbon). Am I just not seeing them or are these awards displayed differently with medals.
Thanks in advance.
That's correct. In practice however, miniature medals are usually worn with the mess uniform, and full-sized are worn with the blues (at least, that's what I've seen.. feel free to correct me if you've seen differently)
I'm not sure what your question is here. Are you asking what appurtenances go on which medals? Where they go? Pg. 74 of AR600-8-22 or pg. 278 of AR670-1 cover appurtenances. Regarding your specific example of the ICM, however, I hope you are aware that 3 OIF tours does not equal 3 OIF campaign medals. There are specific campaigns that service within merits additional awards. You could serve several tours across the same campaign and only be authorized one, or serve one tour across several campaigns and be authorized two or more.
Those awards are ribbon-only awards. When wearing medals, they are not worn. AR670-1, 29-8b.
The name of the award gives you a hint. If it ends with "ribbon" then there is only a ribbon version. Like the NCO Professional Development Ribbon. If it ends with "medal" like your Bronze Star Medal then it has a full and miniature medal version. Typically the prestigious or important awards have a medal, others have only a ribbon.
Appreciate the replies. Thanks for the references, I thought I scoured AR 670-1 but evidentally not.
That clears up my questions.By decoratons I meant appurtenances, and again thanks for the references.
This is my first crack at assembling the medals for my dress uniform. Always been a bit neglectful when it comes to my dress uniform (until I absolutely need to assemble it) so I wanted to go all out and dig into the medals for bowtie affairs.
Remember to get the right sizes; some appurtenances are different sizes for the full size medals vs just the ribbon. See AR600-8-22 Chapter 6 for details.
Keep in mind too that marksmanship badges and the Driver/Mechanic Badge is not authorized when medals are worn. In TOG we did not wear name plates either, but I believe that was just a ceremonial standard.
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Sorry, but I have to tell this small story:
When he was in OSUT, my older son was recruited by the Old Guard. He had a contract at the time for 11X+ABN+Ranger, and asked me what I thought. As he had shipped to OSUT/Benning only 3 days after HS graduation, I thought he should have some actual Army experience before going Ranger (2 years or so), but saw the advantages of 11B and ABN qual.
Therefore, my suggestion was to press TOG to honor the ABN part of his contract, then go to TOG. I also told him that if he went to TOG, he would never ever have much of a uniform question again.
Much has borne that out: he is one of the most squared-away Soldiers I've ever seen, in ANY uniform from PTs to Dress Mess, and has made his Mama proud from E-1 through E-8 and still going. TOG Soldiers also seem to gain an increased personal appreciation for the sacrifices, traditions and customs of both the Army and the US military as a whole.
Sorry --- just had to do that one.
Not a problem sir. I hope my kids do me as proud if they decide to follow in my footsteps. (of course that will be after dodging an array of faceslaps for not becoming doctors )
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LTC Alden's a she, not a he.
Try Ma'am, it will work better.
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LOcust - Not to worry. I've been called "Sir" more often than "Ma'am."
But my other son has the doctor base covered - he married one.
On a related note, I need a DA photo for a promotion board in a couple months. I'm receiving guidance from my branch which seems to indicate that full-sized medals are required (or maybe just "highly encouraged") for officers wearing the ASU.
Medals on a DA photo?! I've never seen that.
What message was that? I've never seen anyone wearing medals on the ASU. In fact, I've only seen full size medals worn once- by a LT that liked to do strange things authorized by the regulations but rarely done. None of my classmates in ILE/SAMS that had our DA photos for LTC or BN CMD boards wore medals, only ribbons.
Just did a DA photo in JAN. No mention wearing full size medals. Of course I was in Class-As. That habit is going to die hard. But haven't heard anything from Branch or the DA photo lab about wearing actual medals on the dress blues. That would just be wierd and would preclude the wear of any ribbons earned and my understanding was the intent is for service members to wear every award earned for their photos.
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