i just want to know when the marines are gonna put a multi axis gun on it? maybe a grenade launcher or sumtin?

I haven't read through a majority of posts in this thread so this may be a repost, but I found it interesting none-the-less.

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And what is your experance in the Wing or Navel Aviation? Qualify your self please...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pitalo:
I haven't read through a majority of posts in this thread so this may be a repost, but I found it interesting none-the-less.

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Although there is SOME substance to this report (to maintain some appearance of objectivity), it is mainly full of inaccuracies, misleading statements and canned anti-V-22 sources.

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Pitalo are you troll? You've post 3 times, twice on the Navy Recruiting a this post. Your post here just so happens to have a link to a paper written on the Ospery. I just did not fall of the back side of the pickup yesterday.....fess up please...

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Originally posted by pavejim:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pitalo:
I haven't read through a majority of posts in this thread so this may be a repost, but I found it interesting none-the-less.

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Although there is SOME substance to this report (to maintain some appearance of objectivity), it is mainly full of inaccuracies, misleading statements and canned anti-V-22 sources.

We haven't had any blood on here in a long time.

Tom, just nick the juggler so that he'll bleed out slowly.

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Originally posted by TomHansen:
Pitalo are you troll? You've post 3 times, twice on the Navy Recruiting a this post. Your post here just so happens to have a link to a paper written on the Ospery. I just did not fall of the back side of the pickup yesterday.....fess up please...

Not that I owe you an explanation of anything, but as a courtesy, I'll let you know that there is nothing more to the post than what I said, which was that I found the article interesting. For the record, unless I'm breaking any of the twenty-four forum rules, I'd appreciate if you'd back-off.

[Edit: Are you?]

Did you notice the word Moderator under my name? Your 1st 2 posts are of a questionable manner then you post this. Once again what is your backgound? We have very few rules in this forum, one of them is if you submit something of a technical nature you had better under what you are submitting.

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Originally posted by TomHansen:
Did you notice the word Moderator under my name? Your 1st 2 posts are of a questionable manner then you post this. Once again what is your backgound? We have very few rules in this forum, one of them is if you submit something of a technical nature you had better under what you are submitting.

So long as I have broken no rules, the fact that you're a moderator doesn't affect me. As it pertains to my other two previous posts; those are NAVY related and are not of your concern nor is my background. I've read through the rules, so, unless you have anything else..?

The fact that I'm am a Moderator does affect you as this is my forum to monitor. What I do in this forum is my Call, not yours. If you want to play Sea Lawyer by my quest, be also willing to pay for it. We have had too many pass on false and misleading information about the Osprey so we are a little fussy when it comes to this Fully Operational Bird and those who pass on information. Once again Please state your back ground. If you don't like what I say or do contact Ips, the Lead Marine Moderator if you feel like rolling the dice, I suggest you don't. You can find him in the Marine Open Forums, as I said what happens in here in my call...

So long as I have broken no rules, the fact that you're a moderator doesn't affect me. As it pertains to my other two previous posts; those are NAVY related and are not of your concern nor is my background. I've read through the rules, so, unless you have anything else..?


Maybe you have not broken any "rules",,, But this is "OUR HOUSE"..You are a"WANNBE" ..get hell out..before we duck tape you in a very Navy Fashion...........

Tom as Ron says just nick his juggler...I want to see "BLOOD"......

JP YH08 "Dimmer Lives"

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Originally posted by JPYH08:
So long as I have broken no rules, the fact that you're a moderator doesn't affect me. As it pertains to my other two previous posts; those are NAVY related and are not of your concern nor is my background. I've read through the rules, so, unless you have anything else..?


Maybe you have not broken any "rules",,, But this is "OUR HOUSE"..You are a"WANNBE" ..get hell out..before we duck tape you in a very Navy Fashion...........

Tom as Ron says just nick his juggler...I want to see "BLOOD"......

JP YH08 "Dimmer Lives"

Your house? I'd say it's Military.com's house, and we're all guests. You don't like what I have, don't read it.

[Edit: By the way, thanks for the title. I like it.]

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Originally posted by Pitalo:

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I haven't read through a majority of posts in this thread so this may be a repost, but I found it interesting none-the-less.

If you had then you'd realize how foolish, and lazy, you look posting a link to a "report" that claims the following:

"In light of several V-22 crashes, three involving fatalities, many argue that the
tilt-rotor technology is not sufficiently mature to merit the Osprey’s production and
fielding. Studies suggest that tilt-rotor aircraft are more susceptible to airflow instabilities that can cause Vortex Ring State than are traditional helicopters.29"

29 Michael Dornheim, “Tiltrotor Wake ‘More Complex’ Than Classic Vortex Ring State,”
Aviation Week & Space Technology, July 15, 2002.

Christopher Bolkcom, who also comes across as foolish, and lazy, should have done his homework and if he, and you, had, then he, and you, would have learned that:

V–22 HIGH RATE OF DESCENT (HROD) TEST PROCEDURES AND LONG RECORD ANALYSIS

"In August 2003, the V–22 Integrated Test Team completed a thorough investigation of the V–22’s low-speed / HROD flight characteristics. Testing defined an operational envelope for the aircraft and demonstrated flight regimes free from vortex ring state (VRS). Tests also probed deeply into fully developed VRS to determine precise flight conditions where it may be encountered, and to confirm the ability of the V–22 to recover from the condition. The ability to tilt the nacelles proved to be a powerful and (in every case) reliable means for rapidly regaining aerodynamic function of the rotors, even when operating in VRS beyond the point of having sufficient controllability. Results for steady-state HROD conditions are presented and the methods for testing are described. In an operational sense, the test results show that the V–22 has a significantly higher rate of descent margin for avoiding VRS with respect to the published NATOPS limitation than conventional low disk-loading helicopters. Furthermore, dynamic maneuver testing of the V–22 showed that VRS cannot be initiated outside the steadystate VRS boundary. Simple engineering analysis is used to show that the V–22’s steady-state VRS boundary is predictable by simple methods that work for conventional helicopters. High blade twist, and the side-by-side rotor configuration of the V–22 do not play a significant role in defining the VRS boundary."

It's blatant mistakes like this that gives people who know better, reason to be skeptical and suspicious of the motives of pot stirring ne'er-do-wells like you and Bolkcom.

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080220-N-5180F-015 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Feb. 20, 2008) A Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey prepares to land aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Nassau (LHA 4). The Nassau Strike Group is en route to the Navy's 5th and 6th Fleet areas of responsibility in support of maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Lt. j.g. Anthony Falvo (Released)



080220-N-5180F-014 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Feb. 20, 2008) A Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey prepares to land aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Nassau (LHA 4). The Nassau Strike Group is en route to the Navy's 5th and 6th Fleet areas of responsibility in support of maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Lt. j.g. Anthony Falvo (Released)



080220-N-5180F-013 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Feb. 20, 2008) A Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey lands aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Nassau (LHA 4). The Nassau Strike Group is en route to the Navy's 5th and 6th Fleet areas of responsibility in support of maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Lt. j.g. Anthony Falvo (Released)


Squadron is VMM-162 Golden Eagles

Well gezz, I think I work for Mil.com in a sence. I've tried to be nice to you but you just don't want to play nice. I have special powers (pixy dust) and now your link is gone. Don't repost your link or you will find yourself suspended for a while and yes my pixy dust can make that happen. This report is over a year old, it's out dated, please post more current reports. I would have let your report stay normally, but Mil.com sent me alot of pixy dust this year to use. You say your Navy cosidering joining, my advice to stay Navy as you have a problem with your hearing. My pixy dust does not help those with poor hearing and/or poor reading skills...

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Originally posted by SATCtech:
Blah blah and so on.

I couldn't be bothered to read that.

As for you, Tom..

You may delete what you want, it doesn't bother me. This forum is not the online equivalent of the U.S.M.C., I have several close relationships with active and prior service Marines who would find your attitude out-of-line.

Regarding the pixey-dust..
I haven't broken any rules therefore, I really don't care.

Furthermore, I have reported your behavior and have a log of all of your posts, as well as my own.

If I choose to stay in this section, well, that's just something you're going to have to get used to.

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Originally posted by Pitalo:

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Originally posted by SATCtech:
Blah blah and so on.

I couldn't be bothered to read that.

As for you, Tom..

You may delete what you want, it doesn't bother me. This forum is not the online equivalent of the U.S.M.C., I have several close relationships with active and prior service Marines who would find your attitude out-of-line.

Regarding the pixey-dust..
I haven't broken any rules therefore, I really don't care.

Furthermore, I have reported your behavior and have a log of all of your posts, as well as my own.

If I choose to stay in this section, well, that's just something you're going to have to get used to.

Eat sh!! Sh!!-talo....


Bring some substantive context to the coversation, or risk getting stacked...we don't want your OLD sh!!.

If you're going to bash me, you might as well just post it in the thread about me to keep from hijacking this topic further.

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Originally posted by Pitalo:

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I couldn't be bothered to read that.

That's due to the fact that you are a mental eunuch, pogue.