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I don't have access to the new manual. Can someone tell me if devices earned in other service branches while not a member of the CG can now be worn on the CG uniform?

It's on the Internet. And no, only if you've earned them as a member of the CG.

M&A Manual

Absolutely pleased that the new manual actually had an order of precedence put in and showed the authorized awards which the previous reg had dropped for some reason. I wore all my Army and Coast Guard medals and ribbons in full glory on dress whites this morning and they looked great. At least in my opinion.

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Simple question here but if you left another service to join the CG then odviously (at least in my mind) you weren't happy there so why would you want to wear anything from that service. In short your in the CG now so have some pride in your new CHOOSEN Service and leave the past in the past. After all we don't go around wearing our awards after military life and we don't need to carry them from service to service either. No one cares what you did in the past they only want to see you do your job now and do it well.

Overlooking the abundance of spelling errors lets get to the point. Just because someone leaves a service because they weren't entirely happy, why would that person not be proud of the service they provided? I suppose if you were kicked out or jailed before leaving it might be a different story. Do you believe everyone who doesn't do 30 years of service obviously wasn't happy?

Simply wearing awards from our prior service doesn't mean we don't have pride in our chosen service. I have great pride in the Coast Guard. I am also proud of my prior military service and since the Coast Guard is a recognized military service it is only proper that some awards are allowed to transfer over. I actually think some devices should as well but that is another story.

Why shouldn't you be able to transfer awards from other services? You can wear your awards after military life if you want to by the way. Also people are interested in what you do in the past. It makes for great conversation.

I have awards from the Army, Navy, and CG.

When people ask me what all of my ribbons mean, I tell them I did a good job, I kept my nose clean, and I've been to different places.

Geesh NM11AZ.. errr... I mean BigDog1992... you certainly get around!

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Originally posted by Forewatch:
Geesh NM11AZ.. errr... I mean BigDog1992... you certainly get around!

Chris, Why don't you just ask JerryG to check IP's for the accounts instead of trolling around after these 2 (or one or whatever). Thanks.

--Mark

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Originally posted by BigDog1992:
Simple question here but if you left another service to join the CG then odviously (at least in my mind) you weren't happy there so why would you want to wear anything from that service. In short your in the CG now so have some pride in your new CHOOSEN Service and leave the past in the past. After all we don't go around wearing our awards after military life and we don't need to carry them from service to service either. No one cares what you did in the past they only want to see you do your job now and do it well.

i'll remember that when i wear my iraq campaign medal, and my reserve medal after being mobilized not once, but twice. guess my previous time served in defense of my country doesn't matter! </ sarcasm>

as far as becoming a civilian one day... i am the youngest (and only female) member of my american legion post. and i think i'm the ONLY one under the age of 65! but i have noticed a lot of the old guys still wear several mini versions of their respective chest candy. your prior service and achievements offer a sense of great pride, so why not show it?

i understand this:

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"Prior service members. Coast Guard personnel who previously served in another branch of the Armed Forces and received personal, good conduct, unit, campaign, and/or service awards listed in enclosure (22) are authorized to wear them on the Coast Guard uniform with the exception of marksmanship medals and ribbons."
Find the manual, see enclosure 22. It is pretty extensive.

according to enclosure 22:

Navy Expert Rifleman Medal or Sharpshooter, Marksman Ribbon
Navy Expert Pistol Shot Medal or Sharpshooter, Marksman Ribbon

doesn't the manual kind of contradict itself?

I'm "guessing" Navy marksmanship Medals/Ribbons are authorized if you as a Coast Guardsman are attached to a Navy unit and qualify on the Navy Qualification Course.

Again, just a guess.

that makes complete sense, but i feel if that was the case then the cg should explain it.

let's say you are correct in this matter, which you just might be. then in the same situation but a cg person deployed with af personnel qualifying on the af course, would be able to wear the af expert marksman awards, correct? if so then that should be in the manual as well. i don't think they have enough personnel reviewing the manuals before they are approved. just my two cents.

The logic there is sound, but how often does the USCG have personnel assigned to the USAF?

Again, guessing here, but doesn't the USCG regularly have personnel assigned to the USN? So that reg is in place for those billets.

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Originally posted by shuman14:
The logic there is sound, but how often does the USCG have personnel assigned to the USAF?

Again, guessing here, but doesn't the USCG regularly have personnel assigned to the USN? So that reg is in place for those billets.

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We do have people who go to AF leadership schools, who get a ribbon. I went to the AF IDMT school and got some sort of little badge.

I was under the Navy during my two tours in Iraqi Freedom(got a Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal from them). We also have members of our LEDET who ride on Naval Warships during some joint ops.

All personal and unit decorations are transferable. In order to wear the badges(or qualification insignia), they have to have been earned while being paid by the CG. That is the way I understand it.

When I was stationed in Bahrain we worked with and did weapons training with the Navy, to include their courses of fire. I qualified Expert with the M4 and Sig P226, but I was told that I still could not wear the ribbons for them IAW CG regs. ????????

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Originally posted by shuman14:
I'm "guessing" Navy marksmanship Medals/Ribbons are authorized if you as a Coast Guardsman are attached to a Navy unit and qualify on the Navy Qualification Course.

Again, just a guess.

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Originally posted by shuman14:
The logic there is sound, but how often does the USCG have personnel assigned to the USAF?

Again, guessing here, but doesn't the USCG regularly have personnel assigned to the USN? So that reg is in place for those billets.

A CG Chief I knew (MST) wore the AF Weather insignia for an AF school he attended while a member of the CG. It happens.

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Originally posted by Forewatch:
Geesh NM11AZ.. errr... I mean BigDog1992... you certainly get around!

Geesh you shouldn't be supprised you have been following me around on your broom. You are a confused individual.

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Originally posted by AFPerling:
i'll remember that when i wear my iraq campaign medal, and my reserve medal after being mobilized not once, but twice. guess my previous time served in defense of my country doesn't matter! </ sarcasm>

as far as becoming a civilian one day... i am the youngest (and only female) member of my american legion post. and i think i'm the ONLY one under the age of 65! but i have noticed a lot of the old guys still wear several mini versions of their respective chest candy. your prior service and achievements offer a sense of great pride, so why not show it?

Show it indeed but not on a CG Uniform. Don't mistake what I said for you wearing your Medals on an Air Force Uniform. I don't think you should wear it on a Coast Guard Uniform (apparently the Coast Guard agrees) unless you earned it in the Coast Guard. You should be proud of your Medals and if you want to wear them wear them in the appropriate fourm not on the uniform of another service. You should be proud of your Medals earned in any service but if you want to wear them you should be in the Uniform of that service. If you feel so proud of them maybe you should go back to the service you earned them in so you can wear them. just my 2 cents for what its worth.
Nuff Said.

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A CG Chief I knew (MST) wore the AF Weather insignia for an AF school he attended while a member of the CG. It happens.

....and it is and has been authorized to wear QUALIFICATION insignias from other services earned while in the CG.

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Originally posted by BigDog1992:
Show it indeed but not on a CG Uniform. Don't mistake what I said for you wearing your Medals on an Air Force Uniform. I don't think you should wear it on a Coast Guard Uniform (apparently the Coast Guard agrees) unless you earned it in the Coast Guard. You should be proud of your Medals and if you want to wear them wear them in the appropriate fourm not on the uniform of another service. You should be proud of your Medals earned in any service but if you want to wear them you should be in the Uniform of that service. If you feel so proud of them maybe you should go back to the service you earned them in so you can wear them. just my 2 cents for what its worth.
Nuff Said.

wow, rude much? last i knew, we had service specific and joint awards (or awards that were transparent across different services)... we perform in service to our country, not just to one branch of service. so it sure as heck is an appropriate forum.

i just guess its a good thing your .02 doesn't hold much weight with the uniform board.

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Originally posted by BigDog1992:

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Originally posted by AFPerling:
i'll remember that when i wear my iraq campaign medal, and my reserve medal after being mobilized not once, but twice. guess my previous time served in defense of my country doesn't matter! </ sarcasm>

as far as becoming a civilian one day... i am the youngest (and only female) member of my american legion post. and i think i'm the ONLY one under the age of 65! but i have noticed a lot of the old guys still wear several mini versions of their respective chest candy. your prior service and achievements offer a sense of great pride, so why not show it?

Show it indeed but not on a CG Uniform. Don't mistake what I said for you wearing your Medals on an Air Force Uniform. I don't think you should wear it on a Coast Guard Uniform (apparently the Coast Guard agrees) unless you earned it in the Coast Guard. You should be proud of your Medals and if you want to wear them wear them in the appropriate fourm not on the uniform of another service. You should be proud of your Medals earned in any service but if you want to wear them you should be in the Uniform of that service. If you feel so proud of them maybe you should go back to the service you earned them in so you can wear them. just my 2 cents for what its worth.
Nuff Said.

BigDog:

The M&A Manual lists medals and ribbons from all five services that can be worn on the CG uniform. Qualification insignias from the other four services can only be worn if earned while a member of the CG.

AFPerling can wear both her Iraq campaign medal and her Armed Forces Reserve Medal on a CG uniform. Neither of those medals are service specific; they cover all five services.

With that said, take a look at Enclosure 22 of the new M&A manual and you see every service-specific and multi-service medals and ribbons authorized for wear on the CG uniform.

i know a couple mst's who graduated an af weather school. but they didn't get a badge. do you know the technical name for this badge and how it is earned?

its called an AF Functional Badge. it displays your career specialty(ies) and your skill level (denoted by the stars w/or w/o the wreath.