Hot off the presses...

ALCOAST 056/08
COMDTNOTE 1020
SUBJ: RESULTS OF UNIFORM BOARD NO. 42
A. UNIFORM REGULATIONS, COMDTINST M1020.6 (SERIES)
1. THIS ALCOAST REPORTS THE RESULTS FROM UNIFORM BOARD NO. 42. THE
FOLLOWING CHANGES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ARE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY:
A. CARDIGAN SWEATERS AND WOOLY-PULLYS ARE NO LONGER AUTHORIZED FOR
WEAR WITH THE OPERATIONAL DRESS UNIFORM (ODU).
B. FEMALE MEMBERS HAIR SHALL BE WORN IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: ALL
PONYTAILS AND LONG HAIR, INCLUDING BRAIDS, MUST BE NEATLY AND
INCONSPICUOUSLY FASTENED, PINNED OR SECURED TO THE HEAD AND MUST
NOT FALL BELOW THE LOWER EDGE OF THE COLLAR. NO PORTION OF THE
BULK OF THE HAIR AS MEASURED FROM THE SCALP WILL EXCEED TWO INCHES.
C. E-7 AND ABOVE ARE AUTHORIZED TO WEAR THE COAST GUARD BRIDGE
COAT AS AN OPTIONAL ITEM.
D. THE REGULAR AUTHORIZED-SIZE TACLET, PSU, AND COMPANY COMMANDER
INSIGNIA ARE: TACLET 2-3/8 INCHES X 1 INCH, PSU 2-5/16 INCHES X
15/16 INCHES, AND COMPANY COMMANDER 2 INCHES X 15/16 INCHES. THE
LARGER LEGACY INSIGNIA WILL NO LONGER BE AUTHORIZED FOR WEAR AFTER
31 MARCH 2008.
2. THE FOLLOWING ITEM WILL UNDERGO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT: BLUE T-
SHIRT WITH 3/4-INCH EMBROIDERED WHITE LETTERS ON LEFT BREAST AS
OPTIONAL WEAR TO BE WORN WITH THE ODU WHEN TOP IS REMOVED.
3. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE REVIEWED AND DISAPPROVED:
A. ADOPTION OF THE EIGHT-POINT COVER.
B. ELIMINATION OF THE COMBINATION COVER FOR E-6 AND BELOW.
C. WEAR OF THE GARRISON CAP WITH THE ODU.
D. WEAR OF PRIOR COMMANDING OFFICER AND/OR OFFICER IN CHARGE
DEVICES ON THE ODU.
E. WEAR OF PRIOR SERVICE INSIGNIA NOT EARNED WHILE IN THE COAST
GUARD.
F. WEAR OF TEMPORARY INSIGNIA ON ODU.
G. WEAR OF BALL CAPS OFF UNIT OR MILITARY INSTALLATION WHILE IN
TROPICAL BLUE LONG UNIFORM; BALL CAP WEAR OPTIONS DETAILED ON PAGE
3-18 OF REF A ARE STILL APPLICABLE.
H. WEAR OF ANODIZED MEDALS.
I. CREATION OF AN INDEPENDENT-DUTY HEALTH SERVICES TECHNICIAN
BADGE.
J. WEAR OF CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER SPECIALTY INSTEAD OF RANK ON THE
FOUL WEATHER PARKA TAB.
K. CHANGE THE METHOD OF ODU SLEEVE ROLLING.
L. ELIMINATE THE COMBINATION COVER WITH ALL DINNER DRESS JACKET
UNIFORMS.
M. GIG LINE MODIFICATIONS.
N. ADDING COAST GUARD RATE INSIGNIA ONTO THE SDB LAPEL.
O. WEAR OF NAME TAGS AND RIBBONS ON LONG-SLEEVE SHIRT AND TIE
WITHOUT THE SDB JACKET.
P. WEAR OF AIR FORCE DRESS TROUSERS WITH THE SDB.
4. THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND
PARTICIPATION ON THIS UNIFORM BOARD: CAPT MICHAEL COSENZA,
COMMODORE HENRY PRATT, CDR LAURIE MOSIER, LCDR REED KOHBERGER, MR.
CAROL BREWTON, MR. JOE DEBLASE, LT JENNIFER SINCLAIR, LT THOMAS
STOKES, LT CHRIS PARRISH, LT MICHAEL BOWMAN, MR. WILLIAM BROADAWAY,
CWO MICHAEL HILL, CWO TARVIN GREENE, MCPO WILLIAM JAMES, MCPO KEVIN
ISHERWOOD, MCPO ANN TUBBS, AND CPO CRYSTAL SPARKS.
5. ALL MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT SUGGESTIONS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS TO COMMANDANT (CG-1221), THRU THEIR CHAIN OF
COMMAND AND THEIR PROGRAM MANAGER.
6. AREA AND DISTRICT COMMANDERS; COMMANDERS, MAINTENANCE AND
LOGISTIC COMMANDS; SECTOR COMMANDERS; COMMANDING OFFICERS OF
HEADQUARTERS UNITS; ASSISTANT COMMANDANTS FOR DIRECTORATES; CHIEF
COUNSEL AND SPECIAL STAFF OFFICES AT HEADQUARTERS, PLEASE ENSURE
THE WIDEST DISSEMINATION OF THIS ALCOAST.
7. THESE CHANGES WILL BE REFLECTED IN A FUTURE CHANGE TO REF (A).
8. FOR QUESTIONS CONTACT CWO GREENE AT (202) 474-5369 OR EMAIL
TARVIN.T.GREENE (AT) USCG.MIL.
9. INTERNET RELEASE AUTHORIZED.
10. RDML DANIEL A. NEPTUN, DIRECTOR OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT, SENDS.

D. THE REGULAR AUTHORIZED-SIZE TACLET, PSU, AND COMPANY COMMANDER
INSIGNIA ARE: TACLET 2-3/8 INCHES X 1 INCH, PSU 2-5/16 INCHES X
15/16 INCHES, AND COMPANY COMMANDER 2 INCHES X 15/16 INCHES. THE
LARGER LEGACY INSIGNIA WILL NO LONGER BE AUTHORIZED FOR WEAR AFTER
31 MARCH 2008.


Have they resized these pins? Haven't seen the new ones yet. Does anyone have any info?

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B. FEMALE MEMBERS HAIR SHALL BE WORN IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: ALL
PONYTAILS AND LONG HAIR, INCLUDING BRAIDS, MUST BE NEATLY AND
INCONSPICUOUSLY FASTENED, PINNED OR SECURED TO THE HEAD AND MUST
NOT FALL BELOW THE LOWER EDGE OF THE COLLAR. NO PORTION OF THE
BULK OF THE HAIR AS MEASURED FROM THE SCALP WILL EXCEED TWO INCHES

Stil trying to find the 'change' in this paragraph??

Anyone?

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:
Stil trying to find the 'change' in this paragraph??

Anyone?

No ponytails pulled through the back of ball caps.

As long as it is not more than 2" away from the nogen, I dont see that prohibition......

Again - not the best written paragraph if that was the intention.

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Originally posted by scootdem:
D. THE REGULAR AUTHORIZED-SIZE TACLET, PSU, AND COMPANY COMMANDER
INSIGNIA ARE: TACLET 2-3/8 INCHES X 1 INCH, PSU 2-5/16 INCHES X
15/16 INCHES, AND COMPANY COMMANDER 2 INCHES X 15/16 INCHES. THE
LARGER LEGACY INSIGNIA WILL NO LONGER BE AUTHORIZED FOR WEAR AFTER
31 MARCH 2008.


Have they resized these pins? Haven't seen the new ones yet. Does anyone have any info?

I know that TRACEN Yorktown's exchange has the new sizes available as of a few days ago. A lot smaller in my opinion.

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A lot smaller in my opinion.

that is the exact point

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Originally posted by JerryG:
Hot off the presses...

ALCOAST 056/08
COMDTNOTE 1020
SUBJ: RESULTS OF UNIFORM BOARD NO. 42
A. UNIFORM REGULATIONS, COMDTINST M1020.6 (SERIES)
1. THIS ALCOAST REPORTS THE RESULTS FROM UNIFORM BOARD NO. 42. THE
FOLLOWING CHANGES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ARE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY:
A. CARDIGAN SWEATERS AND WOOLY-PULLYS ARE NO LONGER AUTHORIZED FOR
WEAR WITH THE OPERATIONAL DRESS UNIFORM (ODU).

Why? it looks better than the ghetto fleece. The wooly pully that is. Looks ten times more professional, I know you can't wear the fleece without the jacket in public. You could with the wooly pully though.

Well, now that the NEW ODU is coming out that won't be tucked in, having the ODU blouse sticking out from underneath the sweater would look kind of dorky, no?

IMHO, they should've allowed the sweater to be worn under the NEW ODU blouse.

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C. E-7 AND ABOVE ARE AUTHORIZED TO WEAR THE COAST GUARD BRIDGE
COAT AS AN OPTIONAL ITEM.

Interesting that e7 - e9 are authorized to wear what had been, without loops for shoulder marks, the CPO overcoat style since at least 1948 to 1976.

The CG blue bridge coat must have been a creation of the late 1980s or early 1990s??? The reefer (pea coat type) overcoat was, as I recall, the only warm winter overcoat available for anyone, from about 1978 thru 1988. What happened since then, that's for someone with more recent input.

As far as I know, the bridge coats haven't been available for 3 or 4 years now, but have historically been around for a very long time, at least with the Navy. Curious how they authorized its wear for CPOs (which, I believe, the Navy does not allow) but didn't specify enlisted rating insignia location or material to match the coat.

I could see why the pully would not work with the new blouse, but seeing how its still a ways off until we get them in the UDC and exchanges, I don't know why this prohibition makes any sense now. Not a terribly innovative list of changes, IMHO.

KCL

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As far as I know, the bridge coats haven't been available for 3 or 4 years now, but have historically been around for a very long time, at least with the Navy. Curious how they authorized its wear for CPOs (which, I believe, the Navy does not allow) but didn't specify enlisted rating insignia location or material to match the coat.

Bridge Coat, really a slang term for the Overcoat. The CPO and Officer Overcoat were/are made the same pattern from about 1948. It was in NAVY BLUE, and had eight gilt buttons on the fore part, four per side. Rating badges weren't worn for CPOs and officers wore the shoulder marks.

Rating badges and shield for the USN/USCG style Pea Coat weren't required until about 1960. The reefer coat, a USN peacoat with gilt buttons for CPO & O was authorized about 1973 +/-. The CG color blue reefer coat must have been about 1978 or 1979 for the cadets. I had to special order one in the winter of 1980/81 to keep from freezing my tookus off during winter quarterdeck watches in Boston. The "wino" raincoat wasn't warm at all.

SOMEWHERE, in all the blurbs that have been flung about concerning uniforms, there was an item of interest concerning overcoats. MAYBE it was about the time of announcing that the "son of wino" raincoat was going to be the CG standard outerwear for all hands. In that announcement was a small item about researching the design for a "bridgecoat" type or similar style for wear if one wanted to stay warm. More info was supposed to be forth coming ??? Ring a bell with anyone ??

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:
As long as it is not more than 2" away from the nogen, I dont see that prohibition......

Again - not the best written paragraph if that was the intention.

Hmm, sounds like it's mandating no ponytails unless your hair is super thin, and you use a small band. Two inches is not a lot of hair, for length or bulk. That said, as I'm an Auxie, I'll ask DH before whipping out the hedge clippers.

Back in the late 80's I remember some enlisted folks being issued some type of dress overcoat other than the Columbo Coat right out of boot camp. Is this the same coat they are talking about?

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Two inches is not a lot of hair, for length or bulk.

Remember, this aplies to folks ONLY when in uniform. I have know plenty of women who had hair to their waist who could comply with this. It has zero to do with length. It is bulk only. In other words, take a two inch long pencil and stick it through the hair perpendicular to the noggen. It it reaches skin before is disappears, you are good to go.

Yes, but that's if your hair is thin and straight. If you've got curly, thick, or seriously wavy locks, two inches is fairly easy to reach.

Yes - but again, this only applies to how the military members have thier hair WHILE IN UNIFORM. That's why Paul Mitchal and that Vidal guy are so rich! All kind of goop out there on the market to tame the wild hair for the work hours!

I went thru boot in Sept-Oct of 1988, we were issued both the "London fog" type full length raincoat with full length liner and the 3/4 length "reefer coat" with full liner as well as the Eisenhower light weight jacket. -Jeff

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SOMEWHERE, in all the blurbs that have been flung about concerning uniforms, there was an item of interest concerning overcoats. MAYBE it was about the time of announcing that the "son of wino" raincoat was going to be the CG standard outerwear for all hands.

There indeed was a message specifying that the issue raincoat - trenchcoat - was to be worn by all hands for events requiring outerwear. I don't recall anything more about developing other alternatives...

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I went thru boot in Sept-Oct of 1988

Not to hijack the thread, but rxjeff what company were you in? I graduated on 14OCT88 - B129.

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we were issued both the "London fog" type full length raincoat with full length liner and the 3/4 length "reefer coat" with full liner as well as the Eisenhower light weight jacket. -Jeff

I use to wear the raincoat a lot up in New England, then I kind of "grew out of it".

GUNS