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That why there is an average.

If the job being performed aboard that cutter would unduly soil or ruin an ODU, then the command is responsible for getting coveralls. If not, the member can submit for repayment. Now, the member has a level of responsibility to keep up their uniform. Just being away from the pier doesn't make the uniform wear down any faster. Even in the worst environments I have been in, I have NEVER spent more than my uniuform allowance - in 18 years!

Besides, if you wear ODUs all of the time, you probably don't replace your trops, bravos, etc as often as you get paid too!
 
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When I was on a construction tender I lived in coveralls.
 
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Besides, if you wear ODUs all of the time, you probably don't replace your trops, bravos, etc as often as you get paid too!


How very true!

Not unlike the general confusion about what is a rate and what is a rating, how few remember that the uniform allowance is a "replacement" allowance that gives the member enough money to "replace" the sea bag every three years (or so it used to be).

Sewing, repair, laundry soap; it ain't for! Frown
 
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Does anyone have any pictures of the new Untucked ODU? The one one MCPOCG does not work anymore. This is needed for a power point project. Any help would be greatful.

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go to NEFLCPOA website, there's a picture on the front page.
 
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Met the Commandant and MCPO-CG on Tuesday, they visited TRACEN Cape May and ate lunch with our company, and they were both wearing the new uniform. Not authorized yet, but will probably be issued in the next couple years.

Personally, I'm not sure whether I like them or dislike them. I know I like the current ODU, the tucked one that we're issued, I think it looks a little more professional than the new one. But I bet the new one will grow on me, other than the fact that I'm going to hate to have to buy all new uniforms after only a year or two. Anyway, that's my two cents.
 
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Not authorized yet, but will probably be issued in the next couple years.

"Deliveries will commence in August 2008."

--M

edited to remove the details as my copy of the note didn't have the "internet release" info on it. Lord knows I don't need the trouble. Razz

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MCPOCG ODU Pics

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other than the fact that I'm going to hate to have to buy all new uniforms after only a year or two.


get that out of your head. First off, you are enlisted, you don't but your uniforms, the gov't does. Secondly, the new uniform will be phased in. That means, once they are available, when your 'old' ODU is unserviceable, you take the uniform allowance the CG gives you and you buy what is on the shelf, the new version.
 
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Did anyone follow the link to the MCPOCG page for the uniforms? I initially just breezed through the pictures, ADHD kicking in. I went back to read about the updates and it stated

"The uniform program is moving forward in the redesign of the ODU to include an ODU that can be tucked or un-tucked"

I thought we were stuck on UNTUCKED, not one that could do both. Does this mean there is hope for having them tucked or I reading this all wrong?
 
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Tucked would be for very special circumstances, if at all. ie - if they can not find a reasonable way to ensure weapon belt retention while untucked, they may allow tucked while wearing a weapon belt.
 
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I stand corrected.
 
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Just had the COMDT and MCPOCG visit our unit on Friday 09MAY. The COMDT said they are expecting the new ODU to be available for purchase in Sept or Oct of this year. He also discussed the hot weather uniform and the workings of a dedicated PT uniform. The hot weather uniform would be a dark blue polo with U.S. Coast Guard embroidering, dark blue cargo shorts (not shortened ODU pants, completely different design), white socks, and black soft sole shoes.
 
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Tucked would be for very special circumstances, if at all. ie - if they can not find a reasonable way to ensure weapon belt retention while untucked, they may allow tucked while wearing a weapon belt.


Master Chief - The COMDT also mentioned they were working on the issue with wearing a weapons belt with the untucked version. He said they were looking at thigh holsters or possible a shoulder holster. Security Forces for AF wear a weapons belt with suspenders over the untucked shirt. That may be the best way to go.

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A polo shirt for a hot weather work shirt? I hope someone realizes how ridiculous that is. They need to make it an inexpensive T-shirt since it will be used while "working" which means its lifespan won't be long. If you make it an inexpensive Tshirt the troops will be more inclined to replace a worn out $8 Tshirt instead of a $20 polo shirt.
 
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A polo shirt for a hot weather work shirt? I hope someone realizes how ridiculous that is. They need to make it an inexpensive T-shirt since it will be used while "working" which means its lifespan won't be long. If you make it an inexpensive Tshirt the troops will be more inclined to replace a worn out $8 Tshirt instead of a $20 polo shirt.


I do not think they intend on you wearing it while cleaning out the bilges or any other kind of dirty work. We already have things for that kind of work....they are called coveralls. The hot weather uniform would be used in the operational setting (AOR runs, boardings, u/w, etc.) not designed for normal maintenance on equipment. I know what you are thinking now...what if i get it dirty on a mission. Well if you destroy a uniform during a mission then the CG will replace it. So how ridiculous is it really?
 
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Well if you destroy a uniform during a mission then the CG will replace it.


Isn't that what the clothing allowance is for? Or are you referring to a different scenario?

Not being familiar with all the various iterations of uniforms the CG wears anymore, someone educate me.....would this polo shirt be worn with the pants that are bloused into boots, or some other form of pants? 'Cuz if it is the former it's going to look really silly.
 
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Well if you destroy a uniform during a mission then the CG will replace it.


Isn't that what the clothing allowance is for? Or are you referring to a different scenario?

Not being familiar with all the various iterations of uniforms the CG wears anymore, someone educate me.....would this polo shirt be worn with the pants that are bloused into boots, or some other form of pants? 'Cuz if it is the former it's going to look really silly.


EX_CG_GM: If you trash your uniform during the course of completing a SAR case or boarding, the unit may use unit funds to replace such uniforms. Had it happen to me one time. Trashed my uniform during a SAR case. Vsl taking on water and I was standing in about shin deep contaminated water (on the main deck) dewatering the vsl. CG replaced my boots and pants. Also the hot weather uniform would have cargo shorts, like I said a couple of posts up.
 
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I'm reading some varying info on the "uniform allowance" above that I think is confusing folks. Below is a simple copy/paste from mil.com that explains the different types of uniform and maintenance allowances. The link will give you the full article and rates.

http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/clothing-allowances

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2008 Clothing Allowances

To help pay for a member's uniform and other clothing costs, you may be given a clothing allowance (if appropriate clothing is not furnished). It is Department of Defense policy that the quantities and kinds of items of individual clothing to be furnished shall be prescribed by the respective Service Secretary or the Commandant of the Marine Corps under the parameters set by the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Force Management Policy). The following is a summary of clothing allowances:

Initial Uniform Allowance
Types of Allowances
Initial Clothing Allowances
Cash Clothing Replacement Allowances
Extra Clothing Allowances
Military Clothing Maintenance Allowance

Officers of the Armed Forces of the United States are entitled to an initial uniform allowance. Except as provided in the note, below, the initial uniform allowance is payable only once to an officer:

Upon first reporting for active duty (other than for training) for a period of more than 90 days.

Upon completing at least 14 days of active duty or active duty for training as a member of a Reserve Component.

Upon completing 14 periods of inactive-duty training as a member of the Ready Reserve. (Each period must be of at least 2 hours duration).

Upon reporting for the first period of active duty required of a member of the Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship Program. NOTE: Upon transfer to another Reserve Component that requires a different uniform, a Reserve officer may receive another initial uniform allowance. Regular officers may not receive this allowance when transferring to another Military Service.

Types of Allowances:

There are four basic types of clothing allowances:

Initial Clothing Allowances are provided to enlisted members upon initial enlistment or upon other special qualification for entitlement to a prescribed outfitting of uniforms. The initial issue may be an in kind issue or a combination of in kind issue and cash payment.

Cash Clothing Replacement Allowances are paid to enlisted members upon the anniversary month each successive year following the provision of an initial clothing allowance. Cash clothing replacement allowances are for replacement of required uniform items based on a normal wear rate.

Extra Clothing Allowances are additional to initial and replacement allowances and do not reduce, replace or otherwise affect them. Extra Clothing Allowances cover unusual circumstances when an enlisted member may require additional uniform items or when an officer (with a permanent duty station outside the United States) or enlisted member may require civilian clothing to perform his or her assigned duties.

Military Clothing Maintenance Allowance (Enlisted Only)

Basic: This allowance provides for continued replacement and maintenance of uniquely military items that would normally require replacement during the first 3 years of active duty.

Standard: This allowance provides for continued replacement and maintenance of unique military items that would normally require replacement after completion of 3 years of active duty.
The amounts following payment amounts may differ from service to service.


The CG might call them something else but this gives one an idea of the different types of allowances.
 
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I'm reading some varying info on the "uniform allowance" above that I think is confusing folks. Below is a simple copy/paste from mil.com that explains the different types of uniform and maintenance allowances. The link will give you the full article and rates.

http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/clothing-allowances

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2008 Clothing Allowances

To help pay for a member's uniform and other clothing costs, you may be given a clothing allowance (if appropriate clothing is not furnished). It is Department of Defense policy that the quantities and kinds of items of individual clothing to be furnished shall be prescribed by the respective Service Secretary or the Commandant of the Marine Corps under the parameters set by the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Force Management Policy). The following is a summary of clothing allowances:

Initial Uniform Allowance
Types of Allowances
Initial Clothing Allowances
Cash Clothing Replacement Allowances
Extra Clothing Allowances
Military Clothing Maintenance Allowance

Officers of the Armed Forces of the United States are entitled to an initial uniform allowance. Except as provided in the note, below, the initial uniform allowance is payable only once to an officer:

Upon first reporting for active duty (other than for training) for a period of more than 90 days.

Upon completing at least 14 days of active duty or active duty for training as a member of a Reserve Component.

Upon completing 14 periods of inactive-duty training as a member of the Ready Reserve. (Each period must be of at least 2 hours duration).

Upon reporting for the first period of active duty required of a member of the Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship Program. NOTE: Upon transfer to another Reserve Component that requires a different uniform, a Reserve officer may receive another initial uniform allowance. Regular officers may not receive this allowance when transferring to another Military Service.

Types of Allowances:

There are four basic types of clothing allowances:

Initial Clothing Allowances are provided to enlisted members upon initial enlistment or upon other special qualification for entitlement to a prescribed outfitting of uniforms. The initial issue may be an in kind issue or a combination of in kind issue and cash payment.

Cash Clothing Replacement Allowances are paid to enlisted members upon the anniversary month each successive year following the provision of an initial clothing allowance. Cash clothing replacement allowances are for replacement of required uniform items based on a normal wear rate.

Extra Clothing Allowances are additional to initial and replacement allowances and do not reduce, replace or otherwise affect them. Extra Clothing Allowances cover unusual circumstances when an enlisted member may require additional uniform items or when an officer (with a permanent duty station outside the United States) or enlisted member may require civilian clothing to perform his or her assigned duties.

Military Clothing Maintenance Allowance (Enlisted Only)

Basic: This allowance provides for continued replacement and maintenance of uniquely military items that would normally require replacement during the first 3 years of active duty.

Standard: This allowance provides for continued replacement and maintenance of unique military items that would normally require replacement after completion of 3 years of active duty.
The amounts following payment amounts may differ from service to service.


The CG might call them something else but this gives one an idea of the different types of allowances.


Great research, too bad none of it applies to what I was describing. It is NOT an allowance in the case I am talking about.
 
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