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Actually you won't find the type of shoe for boat crew in the uniform regulations. It's in the Rescue and Survival Manual.

It appeared he was asking about the Hot WX uniform - that indeed is in the Uniform Manual.

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Originally posted by tip_dog:

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Actually you won't find the type of shoe for boat crew in the uniform regulations. It's in the Rescue and Survival Manual.

It appeared he was asking about the Hot WX uniform - that indeed is in the Uniform Manual.

you are correct he is asking about the hot weather uniform, but he also is going to a station. According to Boat Forces Stant Team each boat crewmember will be issued PPE. This PPE includes what he asked about (boat crewmember, LE mission, SAR, etc.) As of yet their is no such requirement for cutters as they do not go thru Stant. But since the CB-OTH has become a standard boat and the new CBL being phased in, I have no doubt that will become a requirement.

Actually, the Uniform Regs do prescribe a regulation boat shoe, as well as what other shoes are to be worn with the Hot WX uniform.

What's a "stant" team - do they check radiator and fuel tank caps?

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Originally posted by nekron99:
Actually, the Uniform Regs do prescribe a regulation boat shoe, as well as what other shoes are to be worn with the Hot WX uniform.

What's a "stant" team - do they check radiator and fuel tank caps?

Sorry misspelled it, Stand Team (Standardization Team)....Again he asked specifically about boatcrew and LE at a station. He asked what would he be wearing for a station in hot weather. I gave him the reference of the R & S Manual because it deals directly with boatcrew PPE issue for climates in hot and cold weather. The Uniform Manual is general but not as mission specific as the R & S Manual.

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Stand Team

It's really STAN Team - no "t" or "d" on the end.

FWIW, it's the Uniform Manual that authorizes the issueance of boat crew PPE per the R&S Manual, and allows local uniform prescribing authorities to determine what uniforms may be worn when and where, all IAW w/CG regs.

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:

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The only time you cannot wear steel toe is under some conditions working with electricity.

Brett - isn't ANSI Z41-1999 specific to electrical safety as well as protective toe? If the boot meets the requirement of the uniform manual, it should be good for any electrical situations too, right?

Phil, I didn’t want to get into it too much but yes ANSI Z41 does include an electrical rating, as well as impact and crush. However, to earn the Z41 label they do not have to meet both. As a mater of fact, there is a Z41 spec for conductive foot wear also. To determine if the boot meets which section you need to read the part after the ANSI Z41 PT 99. Now a steel toe can earn the electrical hazard rating, but the rating is only good for 14,000 volts. This is why I said “Some” conditions.

For example in “ANSI Z41 PT99 I/75 C/75 MT/75 EH” The “EH” stands for electrical hazard. (14,000 v, 60 Hz. for 1 minute.)

Now the fun part. ANSI Z41 is obsolete. The new standard is ASTM F2413-05. It is very similar. The uniform manual is being updated as we speak. The good news is ASTM is almost identical to ANSI so as long as they have one or the other you’re good to go.

Be Safe.

I use the Corcoran jump boots myself, and after the first week of breaking in, they are the most comfortable boots I've ever had, and they look really sharp too.

Kevin Couture, SK1

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Originally posted by FlynnPatrick:
Why do you want steel toed boots?

Maybe it has something to do with uniform regs.. sc

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Originally posted by G_REG721:
Thats What I meant to say, composite safety toe. What about when you are at a Station that wears the summer short blues (Shorts, T-shirt, LE Gear and PFD) what type of footwear do you wear then? Because I am current on my way to a Station on Florida's Gulf Coast.

When I was a non-rate at the station, we were authorized the tropical weather uniform, however each member had to buy their own... A local surplus shop had the shorts and t-shirts and our OIC required that everyone wear black, safety composite toe tennis shoes... You can buy them at Wal-Mart for about $25...

Hope this helps...

ET3 Sends...

"Safety Toe" boots can be steel toe and meet the EH ASTM rating.

Why not use the superboot II that is required by the CG? Just a thought.

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Originally posted by chips14:
Why not use the superboot II that is required by the CG? Just a thought.

The Superboot II is sold by the UDC, it is not required. Any boot that meets the spec in the uniform manual can be worn.

The Superboot II by the way, is a very good boot. Goretex liner, composite toe so it's warmer in the cold, and overall very good quality. It's a little on the expensive side, but you get what you pay for.