Originally posted by 13861432: who is the better Marine Force Recon or the green berets?
As a veteran infantry Marine then I must agree that Force Recon is very special as far as their skills are concerned but they are also generally very mission specific.
Each branch has it's own spec-ops and all are highly trained and motivated individuals and the most professional people. But each also has their own specialized missions that they are geared toward.
I don't think that any one spec-ops group is any better than anyother they are just all geared a little differently.
Hi u guys and any ladies ,i think a "special recon units are worth there weight in gold ". realy do a great job and save time and lives i should know . But there you go i am not an Americal national, am british from the uk have served in a few conflicts,one being the first gulf war these are dedicated to there jobs ,the is not to say all military personal in what ever they do what ever branch they are in .( EX sas ). colin
RE ...I]Hi u guys and any ladies ,i think a "special recon units are worth there weight in gold ".[/I] realy do a great job and save time and lives i should know .
Ladies and Gents, please take anything tipitoe says with a pinch of salt.His credibility is as dodgy as his spelling.[
THE THING IS YOU CANT BE BOTH...SO PICK YOUR POISON .. AND LIVE WITH IT..THEY DO DIFFERENT JOBS AT DIFFERENT TIMES. ARMY S.F. ARE PROBABLY MORE EDUCATED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE LANGUAGE SKILLS. SO WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS?
No offense, but Army SF are typically more educated as 12Of12 said. Green Beret's specialize in training other countries indigenous forces with skills such as: marksmenship, explosives, land navigation, but can be as broad as evasive driving. Marine Force Recon are some hard core mother f*****s. But, as said earlier they are extremely mission specific. Army Delta Force specializes in Counter Terrorism(Not so much hostage situation, but it IS in their OPFOR). Its like asking which is a better driver, a cab driver or a big-rig truck driver? They both get the job done, but its a different job and its done in a different manner.
I'm an expert at this you can just ask John Rambo and Chuck Norris because I trained them both. Uzis on dirt bikes was my idea. If we still had those the war in Iraq would be done. The difference is that Marine Recon wear Marine desert digitals while Army SF wears ACU's. There debate solved, we can all sleep peacefully tonight.
What's the difference? The difference is that I'm not eligible at age 33 for Marine Force Recon, but in the Army National Guard Special Forces I am. And that settles it for me. Now can I go to sleep too? Ha ha . But which came first, the chicken or the egg? j.k. Hooahh.
First off, each of the members of the JSOC have a primary mission specific training. I have read blogs on here from those referring to Delta and other members of the Spec Ops. If any of you have ever had a close working relationship with these soldiers you will know they are trained and are experts in all facets of warfare. All members of the Special Operations Community are required to have knowledge and training above and beyond the normal average soldier. This is so we are not bullet traps like many of the other elements employed by the DOD. If a member of the Special Operations is killed you rarely hear about it. So who is better the Marines or the Army? Well, the Army Special Operations has more funding for training and equipment. It does happen to give them an edge in today’s electronic warfare. The marines still the attitude of the marines of yesterday, which gives them motivation and drive to continue on. I’ve worked with most elements of the JSOC; I have to say the "Green" boys are very educated and better to work with.
" Throw some fishes to the SEALs, show them that we wish them well, drown 'em in a cup of water, RECON are the warriors from Hell. Give some money to the ARMY, it knows how to spend it all, they know they can send the RANGERS as long as RECON is on call."
All jokes aside, as was said above, each branch has its own Secial Ops teams and missions they train to be the best at that.
As its been said before, any special operations unit is designed for a purpose. The primary role of army SF is to train indigenous forces that support American interests. Force Recon's primary role is to provide reconnaisance to the fleet, in theory, behind enemy lines. Nowadays however the conventional war that our military was designed to fight doesn't stand. This new we are fighting is different and everybody has something to contribute.
I went into the Army in 1969 and was a weapons specialist. I supported some fine Spec. Ops. troops from pretty much all of the services; because we supported AMERICAL Div. and all non-divisional units in our A-O, Chu-Lai. They were true professionals. The problem was they were being misused, because many in the chain of command didn't know how to use them;or some of the fantastic skills that were being wasted. Even now some of the hard heads want to argue with Special Operations Command. Finally someone came up with the idea to put Spec. Ops. under one command for operational purposes. As far as I can see it was probably a good thing to do! tom357freedom
