I am currently in my 8th week of training at the Ft. Huachuca 35M HUMINT school. The training at the school is great, things at the company level are horrible. I have a degree in International Relations with a Middle Eastern studies minor. Because of this I am an E4/Specialist. I have been to Israel (and studied abroad there for Intermediate Modern Hebrew) "Palestine" and Jordan.
With that being said, I merely seek advice from anyone who would be willing to give it in regards to a future job in the civilian world with the skills I will gain from the military. I would very much like to work for the government in some fashion, but am curious as to how would be the proper way to go about things. My contract ends in 2011 and plan on seriously applying at various jobs a year before my contact is up. Any suggestions or advice would be highly appreciated!
Wow...don't you think that you're making a premature judgement about the military? Why did you join? Was it simply a stepping stone to a bigger/better career? I think currently you have a pretty uninformed attitude. (8 weeks into AIT?) The danger of being a college educated, "experienced" EIT Soldier.
Anyways, to address your question--the HUMINT skillset is a pretty valuable commodity and you should not have any issue finding work post-Army. During your enlistment, attend all the intel schools and training you can get into. Make contacts and keep your eyes open. I know SAIC just sent out a message recruiting HUMINT specialists as instructors at.....you guessed it, lovely Fort Huachuca.
By the way...there is not such thing as "Palestine"...what did you mean by travelling there?
Your in a training unit and should not relate that life to what it will be like in a unit doing the job. If you do plan to use the military as a stepping stone to civilian employment, do what dragoontwoone said and grab as many training schools as you can...just don't tell anyone what your plans are or you might find your training request denied.
On the other hand, you might find you enjoy your military job.
Originally posted by Hatikva: [QUOTE]Originally posted by dragoontwoone: Wow...don't you think that you're making a premature judgement about the military? Why did you join? Was it simply a stepping stone to a bigger/better career? I think currently you have a pretty uninformed attitude. (8 weeks into AIT?) The danger of being a college educated, "experienced" EIT Soldier.
Anyways, to address your question--the HUMINT skillset is a pretty valuable commodity and you should not have any issue finding work post-Army. During your enlistment, attend all the intel schools and training you can get into. Make contacts and keep your eyes open. I know SAIC just sent out a message recruiting HUMINT specialists as instructors at.....you guessed it, lovely Fort Huachuca.
By the way...there is not such thing as "Palestine"...what did you mean by travelling there?
Good luck.
I completely agree with there being no Palestine which is why I put quotations. Nevertheless, I have been to the "territories" of Eretz Yisrael.
My judgements may be premature but how things are run at the company level/this training environment are absolutely horrible and it would take a while of explaining as to why I wish to get out of the military so quickly. It mainly has to do with how higher ranked personnel treat lower enlistee's. Moral is very bad in my company on so many levels because of this.
Thank you again for replying and I will try to keep my head up.
Like the others said, I would definitely not use Fort Huachuca AIT to judge the rest of the Army. Even going from Huachuca AIT to Huachuca permanent party, there was a huge difference. Once you make that transition, you'll mostly be wondering why the cadre treated you poorly for little or no reason until graduation day.
I work for L-3 Communications and we are always seeking 97E's / 35M's for positions in Iraq. Generally we look for 4 years of post training experience to hire someone on as an Interrogator, but we have Screener positions that only requires completion of the 97E/35M Course.
I will be at Huachuca for the job fair Oct 8th and 9th. Feel free to stop by our booth or send me an email if you are interested in learning more about our positions.
Originally posted by Intel_Recruiter: I work for L-3 Communications and we are always seeking 97E's / 35M's for positions in Iraq. Generally we look for 4 years of post training experience to hire someone on as an Interrogator, but we have Screener positions that only requires completion of the 97E/35M Course.
I will be at Huachuca for the job fair Oct 8th and 9th. Feel free to stop by our booth or send me an email if you are interested in learning more about our positions.
funny around graduation i got an email from these people offering that stuff and i just dismissed it, my deployment is coming up early enough next year so i dismissed it. Seems like a nice comp package for sure.
For anyone with a military intelligence background and security clearance, there are a lot of options outside the military from both the government and private sector.
With your kind of background you should be able to find a position fairly easily with any of the major intelligence agencies, be it the DIA, CIA, FBI, etc. You can also find higher paying contract jobs, which usually aren't as stable. To apply for these positions you can simply submit applications online, or attend a job recruiting fair.
Really though, right now you should just focus on completing your training and doing your best at your first duty station before thinking about life when you get out. Yes, there are plenty of opportunities outside, but you really can't touch them for a few years yet.
Also, don't base your opinion of the Army on TRADOC. It's training, it's not meant to be the real Army. Your perceptions of the military will change depending on your first duty station, which could really go either way.
Originally posted by Intel_Recruiter: I work for L-3 Communications and we are always seeking 97E's / 35M's for positions in Iraq. Generally we look for 4 years of post training experience to hire someone on as an Interrogator, but we have Screener positions that only requires completion of the 97E/35M Course.
I will be at Huachuca for the job fair Oct 8th and 9th. Feel free to stop by our booth or send me an email if you are interested in learning more about our positions.
Do you guys really look at potential employees YEARS before their initial enlistment is even over, before they've even gone through their military training, let alone a deployment?
Originally posted by sdepue: Do you guys really look at potential employees YEARS before their initial enlistment is even over, before they've even gone through their military training, let alone a deployment?
From my point of view, it never hurts to get to know a potential employee, even years before they may be available.
For our program, we can usually begin the hiring process around six months before the applicant’s availability. This gives us plenty of time to line up approvals for any positions they qualify for and gives our new employee time to prepare for deployment.