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I'm an E-5, and have been in the active army for 5yrs. I am interested in becoming a warrant officer. I know you need to be a specific rank to become a warrant officer, but I was not sure if I would get OE pay. I'm also finding it really hard to find the different jobs of the WO. My MOS is 19D and I know that Aviation is my only choice, but honestly am afraid of being a pilot I don't mind flying but the pilot part scares the **** out of me. If anyone has any info I would like them to e-mail me at thru your profile

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Thats why most wannabe pilots, suddenly quit takeing flying lessoms after there first solo.
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Where's OldArmy when you need him? - -

I occasionally saw Warrants as Maintenance Officers. One thing you need to think about is that when it comes time for Reduction In Force, Warrants are either given the boot, or RIFd down to permanent E-6 if they want to stay for 20. I knew three SSGs that had gone through that just to save their 20. If you don't want to be a pilot, why not go to OCS and become a hard-bar? Being a Scout, you'd probably be more suited to the leadership role anyway, and there wouldn't be any glass ceilings that Warrants often run into when it comes to advancement. I was an 11D40 Recon Scout, in the Army, then went Air Force and commissioned. The Air Force wisely has no Warrant rank, so any officer can head in any direction based on whats between their ears not on their collars. Some of my classmates with better eyes became pilots. Some who were younger (I was 35 when I got 2nd Lt.) went on to be Bird Colonels in command positions setting policy and making big bucks...

Good Luck in whatever you chose - -

If I were you, and had the brains and eyes - I'd shoot for pilot in a heartbeat and the fear be damned!! You're in the military to harness that, and make it do the work for you!! Wink Cool


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GWG, I did decide to show up. Maybe it was the topic the woke me up also I got an alert from another moderator.

23051533, Welcome to military.com.

You say word that are near and dear to my heart. This link will tell you more about the What is an Army Warrant Office.

This is part of the information that you will find on that link.
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"The Army WO is a self–aware and adaptive technical expert, combat leader, trainer, and advisor. Through progressive levels of expertise in assignments, training, and education, the WO administers, manages, maintains, operates, and integrates Army systems and equipment across the full spectrum of Army operations. Warrant Officers are innovative integrators of emerging technologies, dynamic teachers, confident warfighters, and developers of specialized teams of soldiers. They support a wide range of Army missions throughout their career. Warrant officers in the Army are accessed with specific levels of technical ability. They refine their technical expertise and develop their leadership and management skills through tiered progressive assignment and education."
(DA Pamphlet 600-3, p. 3-9)

Further clarification of the role of a warrant officer is found in Field Manuals 6-22:

“Warrant officers possess a high degree of specialization in a particular field in contrast to the more general assignment pattern of other commissioned officers. Warrant officers command aircraft, maritime vessels, special units, and task organized operational elements. In a wide variety of units and headquarters specialties, warrants provide quality advice, counsel, and solutions to support their unit or organization. They operate, maintain, administer, and manage the Army‘s equipment, support activities, and technical systems. Warrant officers are competent and confident warriors, innovative integrators of emerging technologies, dynamic teachers, and developers of specialized teams of Soldiers. Their extensive professional experience and technical knowledge qualifies warrant officers as invaluable role models and mentors for junior officers and NCOs.” (Fm 6-22, p. 3-12)

Additional expectations are shown in Field Manual 7-0.

Warrant officers must be technically and tactically focused and able to perform the primary duties of technical leader, advisor, and commander. Through progressive levels of expertise in assignments, training, and education, warrant officers perform these duties during all operations and at all levels of command. While their primary duties are those of a technical and tactical leader, warrant officers also provide training and leader development guidance, assistance, and supervision. Warrant officers provide leader development, mentorship, and counsel to other warrant officers, officers, NCOs, and Army civilians. Warrant officers lead and train functional sections, teams, or crews. Finally, they serve as critical advisors to commanders in conducting organizational training. (FM 7-0, p. 4-22)

The Army Warrant Officer Corps is comprised of over 25,000 men and women of the active Army and reserve components. Warrant officers are technical experts that manage and maintain increasingly complex battlefield systems. They enhance the Army's ability to defend our national interests, and to fight and win our nations wars.

Candidates who successfully complete Warrant Officer Candidate School are appointed in the grade of Warrant Officer One. When promoted to Chief Warrant Officer Two, warrant officers are commissioned by the President and have the same legal status as their traditional commissioned officer counterparts. However, warrant officers remain single-specialty officers whose career track is oriented towards progressing within their career field rather than focusing on increased levels of command and staff duty positions.
The OE pay status is not applicable to the warrant program. With the warrant program it can't be about the pay. It has to be about how you want to service. If you compare the warrant pay charts to the senior enlisted pay charts you will see that it can't be about the pay.

I would suggest that you visit the above link. And, ask your question Army General Discussion

At this time the enlisted MOS 19D is not feeder to any warrant specialty. You are correct about your only warrant option is the aviation program. As far as being afraid of the pilot position, you'll never know until you sit behind that stick. It might be worth the money to take a few flying lessons. If I were you I would also consider the OCS program.

Thanks for your service.

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