I once saw a guy on here that had everyjob that kbr offered and what the payscale was. I am unable to locate that information now. Can you help?

Thanks

No, I cannot help you on specifics. But, I am quite aware that most KBR employees make over $50k a year. That would be the food-service employees stateside. The scale obviously goes up if deployed (and, tax-free up to $85k if HAZDU). And, if you have a job that actually requires more skill than scooping puffy egg material onto a plate, then you will more than likely make much more money. I did get an offer from them and a few others that were above 6 figs. I turned them down due to other business prosperities.

I shouldn't, but here you go.

http://www.civiliancontractorjobs.com/

Oh, you Dawg, you.

Seriously, though. If it is an interest of yours to get into that business, it isn't very difficult. They are always hiring for overseas jobs. Truck-driver, food-service attendants, laundry staff, rent-a-cops, custodians, water purification, etc. These are the jobs that do not require much training and most pay between $50k and $100k. If you actually have skills that are required in the field (electronics, communications, security, weapons systems, EOD, etc) or have a security clearance then you can expect to make double that. But, keep in mind that you can only claim up to about $85k tax-free. After that you get pretty much raped. But, that is because the untaxed money is figured into what tax bracket you fall under. And, the sub-$1M tax bracket is a byatch. And, that bracket starts right around $150k, unfortunately. So, if you make $200,000 annually, then you can expect to take home around $133,000.

I do not work for a contractor, per say. But, as part of a development deal I have to supply support to the tech. reps in the field that offer support to the troops in the field. So far, I have only had to go in-country twice for about a month each time. But, it was all tax free due to the fact that it didn't exceed that magic number. But, it has played havoc with my regular financial accounting. So, if you do it, pay attention to what you make and write it all down. And, most importantly... Invest it. Don't blow it like I see so many of my tech. reps doing. It is great money, that is true. But, it will not make you rich. So, don't spend it as if you are rich. Because, you will end up coming back in debt rather than ahead. I have seen it happen.

I don't like to give out the good information to wanna bee's. He has a deployment and reserve so maybe he can cut it.

And, as you know, I didn't give out the real good stuff.

Craigs list might have some jobs on there also, but there might be a lot of scam's on there where they say for a fee they will get you a job, and in the end, NOTHING.

You should never have to pay for a job. Sure, pay to have your resume professionally written in all 3 formats. But, never pay a few to get a job. It you have a solid background and a solid resume, then you are golden.

Oh, and I know. The good stuff comes to the tune of a phone #. I had the headhunters calling my cell left and right. But, they didn't know that I already had a contract, non-employee.

But, alas. Military.com is owned by Monster.com. So, I wonder where they got my contact info and my EAOS. Hmm??? I wonder.

I even got out a year before my EAOS (development contract and service-member laws) and they were calling me within a week of SEP. Then, a year later they were calling me again. Something tells me that there is a flag that goes up whenever a Mil.com member changes their status from Active to Veteran. I would hazard to guess, if I were so inclined.

My wife told me I was NOT to apply to any of these jobs. She says, "It's one thing to go for my country, something different to get shot for money".

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I had a good job offer in Afgan in March and then I messed my body up.. Poooed me off. I hope to get back in shape enough for one more job. i just have a hard time passing the Med part now. Got a good friend that is a Boss man there and he wants me to come over. He was my boss for 5 years when we were investgators.

I stopped two Meds VA gave me and I am feeling sooooo much better.

The Ivory coast are is still hiring. Just gotta keep your head down there

Gotta keep your head down everywhere, Dawg. It is all the same. But, in a few months, I am done with that mess.

You are rearing to go for it until you go for it. Then you are ready to get out of it. I think that is about where I am at. I am on call 24/7 and 365. So, believe you me, I want to know that I don't have to worry about my phone a ringin'. A simple thing, really. But, it is a pretty big thing for me. After almost 2 years of this, it is getting pretty old. Just a few more months and I am home free. The only downside is that I won't get those monthly checks. Oh well. I still have my day job.

In the end, I will miss it. Just like I miss the military. It is weird. I look back on my military experiences and those that I have had with this company and I am just shocked. It is almost as if it were all a dream. Or, a movie. But, it is my life. It isn't glamorous like 007 or anything. But, I have to admit that it has been pretty cool. But, I have to move on. Oh, and I still have to answer tech. emails for another year after my active contract is up. That pays on a case by case basis. Man, some of the emails I get make me want to reach through the WWW and slap these guys. Imagine all of the posts in 24 hours that come through Mil.com. But, then imagine that it is a person to person email correspondence. They call it distance support. But, these guys are learning. They'll get it eventually... Hopefully.

That's all I want is one more big check. I hope to get a supervisory position and draw on that level.

If they have a good trainer on trhe other end, I can train out the K-9 troubles thru e-mails. if not a phone call will do it. The problem is finding someone that was a school trained supervisor or kennel master.

I get a lot of" Oh ya I can handle this I am real good. Naaaaaaa, seldom. Boots on ground and I am hot and love it.

OK, we are on the same page.

I hate to complain, but I feel that our training needs to be more thorough for the guys on the ground and on the seas. Far too often I see that they are just swimming in circles. You deal in K9s, I deal in tech. But, I am sure that you have seen a few lapses in our current military training regimen. It is almost as if military training is a familiarization and the real learning is done through the mistakes in the field. While I have often touted the idea that mistakes (or, pain) is the ultimate teacher, I feel that the bar needs to be raised.

Sorry, it is just that I have been dealing with a complete azz-hat of a tech lately and it is making me angry. Well, that and I want to get some sleep already. Different time-zones do not help in that respect when it comes to email correspondence overseas. That, and the fact that this guy is supposed to be my relief when my contract is up. Wow, that really scares me and almost makes me want to sign another year... Almost.

I think we do a good job in the tech schools. i don't want to say tooooo much out here.

I feel that a lot of the, think it will be easyer than it is. Like it happened to those guys and not us.

I have a nephew over in the sand box now and he is real happy with the skills of the men. They put another week on,,,, I think Basic now.

The trouble with dawgs is that you trust what he is doing and if he was trained wrong, you won't know until it is too late. I think the "Never mind on that" still have the BOMB dawgs. That's real good.

I am a person that fixes broken teams. Where one of them or both just arn't working to thier potential

This last time I had a chance to go over as scurity detail of some sort... I'm to old to be a shooter. I still have it, I just think it's a young man's game.

I changed the wording on some things just in case.

Gotcha.

My game is chasing those pesky circuit Gremlins. You may think that this is weird, but I talk to my equipment. No, not my junk. But, my electronic systems. Much like a vehicle or a dog, for that matter, the more attention you give it the more it will appease you. Now, of course, I understand that a piece of electronic gear isn't living and breathing. But, making that personal connection is very important regardless. That is how you really get to understand what is below the hood (or, under the skull). Electronic systems have their quirks just as dogs do. And, just to be straight, I am really great with dogs as well. In the end, the answer is always very simple. It just takes a "little" logic. But, most have the tendency to "nuke" things (make them far more involved and difficult than that of what is needed). Think point A, point B. 123, ABC, etc. Almost simple and childish in theory, but the natural and technological world really all comes down to the simplest of understanding. Yes, No. A, B or C. Kinda hard to explain, I guess. But, I hope you see what I am getting at.

Funny thing. While other guys would read a magazine or a newspaper while on the toilet, I would read owner's manuals and instructions (or, even shampoo ingredients). So, I was a natural for reading Tech Manuals. But, all people do yes may not forgo. All things are relative. And, some are welcomed to a different horizons. Much same instruction, in-house. Effective... Some. At least to greater of audiences. Life, wonderful thing. That is the hinge with which it all rests upon... natural skill. The entire process. . It is all in the pudding and what that pudding is made from. Good sugar, bad sugar. Arf!?

I was lucky. I had good givers and also had the wherewithal of mind to take. Others do not have the luxury of that endeavor. And, others are not paired to their luxuries of mind.

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Thanks man. This will be my third trip. Got this game figured out. But this time im applying differently. Ultimate goal is DynCorp.
But id much rather get in with to test or Contrack. Thanks for the info

That site was good but www.dangerzonejobs.com is better. Im looking for the KBR break down though which lists the actullay pay scale per craft and skill.

To be honest, I imagine that info is insider type stuff. In my mind, I think that it probably goes on a contract by contract basis. After all, no reason to advertise a price if you can get labor for cheaper. But, most are between $50k-$80k for stateside and non-HAZDU. If you go to Iraq or A-stan, then look to make 6 figures unless you are doing laundry or shoveling slop onto trays. And, I am pretty sure all of the Sailor-wives have taken those positions. What is you MOS/Rating if I may ask? Do you have any civilian experience that would benefit any of these corporations? I can give you a ballpark from the salaries based on those of my friends.

Well Afgandeply, you are seasoned. 10 is right. Why say $120,000 when they can get you for $60,000 or $80,000.

Afgandeploy, if you just hang out for a few days a few other people will post or get in touch with you. Good luck man.

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I can train out the K-9 troubles thru e-mails. if not a phone call will do it.

Wow! They got dogs that can read emails and talk on the phone?



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There is not such list. The best you can do is go to a kbr job fair or job interview. Even then, they won’t tell you. You get assigned to a HR guy and he will contact you…IF they want to hire you. When you get to Houston and go though ALL of the stuff they set up for you…then, they will negotiate pay. 9/10… lowest deal possible for you. MAKE SURE IF YOU GET HIRED TO READ…ENTIRE CONTRACT!!! Small print is a pain!