I know this is going to generate some visceral reactions from a lot of people. All I ask is that you read the whole thing, then post a response...Pro or Con.

Many people out there, politicians, business people, clergy, regular folks, are saying that we need to "negotiate" with the terrorists. Okay, just WHOM do we negotiate WITH? There is no nation in the world that is saying they have control of, or even admitting contact with these Islamic terrorists. These people actually claim no nationality or allegiance with any nation. They don't wear the uniforms of any national military, they subscribe to no treaties or accepted rules of conduct for any military. Just who should we be negotiating WITH?

When are we, or at least our elected "leaders" going to admit that these people mean what they say? They want us (spelled U.S.) dead, exterminated, obliterated, destroyed.....GONE!!! These people WANT a religious war! They have DECLARED a religious war (Jihad)! When are we going to believe they are serious? They don't care if you are Christian, Buddhist, Catholic,Protestant, Athiest, Jew, or even Muslim. If you are an American, this Jihad is aimed at YOU!!! When are we going to believe them?

Our so-called "borders" are open gateways into our country. The FBI already has voiced concern that terrorists from the ME can and probably are coming here illegally across the Mexican border. Is this with the complicity of the Mexican government? What are we as a nation doing about this? NOTHING!

Our politicians and various apologists say we have "friends" in the ME. Just who are these "friends"? Name two...go ahead...I'll wait. Can't come up with two? The only friends I can think of over there are the Israelis. I could be wrong, educate me.

The Saudis? Come on now! Just when are we going to do something, ANYTHING, about 9-11-01? The majority of the terrorists on those planes were Saudi! For almost any Saudi to do anything requiring real amounts of cash, they MUST be supported by one or more of the royals (the government!)...because they have all of the money.

The Kuwaitis? Their so-called "leaders" didn't even assist in their own "liberation". They took off to Europe to party, while the coalition troops kicked a**, then came back and complained about the mess we made!

The Egyptians? Syrians? Lebanese? Jordanians? Libyans? Qatari? Omani? Iraqi? Iranians? Go ahead, name one of these as a "friend", and show ANY action they have taken to support us, and PUBLICLY condemn the terrorists! What is the matter? Are our "leaders" afraid of these people? If so, WHY?

These are the same people who supported Hitler, and STILL admire him. Except they believe he fell short of what he (in their opinion) should have accomplished. The holocaust happened, they just don't feel it was completed to their satisfaction.

Are there any solutions, actual SOLUTIONS, short of giving them exactly what they want? A WAR of complete extermination? Should we release the dogs of war on these peoples and take it to their level? Or should we just go ahead, kill them ALL, root and branch and salt the earth over their dead bodies? Will this war ever end before the last Jihadist falls with a bullet in his or her head? Should we simply eradicate them completely, and let GOD make the decision over them..and over us?

maybe thats how they are able to threaten rural america. because we keep letting them in!

Are you suggesting we glass the Middle East?

I hate to say it , but it may be the only solution to the terrorists from the middle east

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Originally posted by thepoopgoblin:
Are you suggesting we glass the Middle East?

I'm asking if there is any other possible, REASONABLE solution,

CRY HAVOC, release the DAWGS of WAR! People I think they mean it when they say Convert Or DIE! Me Im to old to convert so..NUKE'EM till they GLOW! Send them back to using the M1 Spear and the rest of the world can sleep peacefully

This whole situation is biblical. It's not political, PC, or American. The intent of these morons is to exterminate everybody who isn't a "devout" Muslim. And the word devout has to be used loosely because it depends on what interpretation of the Koran they're going to use this week.

When we (that would be Americans) quit fighting amongst ourselves like a bunch of school kids, and our politicians stop treating the problem like it’s some strategy to get re-elected in 08 and start treating it like a Jihad, then we’ll be willing to take these punks completely out. Until then we’re just keeping pace with the indoctrination.

To solve the problem people have to quit worrying about how it’s going to offend Muslims. We have to stop thinking like a bunch of lawyers and start thinking like soldiers.

Because we’ve been so “PC” these past 20 years we’ve started a ball rolling that fell right into the enemies hands. If we take another 20 years to quit this ignorant thinking, we’ll not have another 20 to worry about it.

My stance is; Kill every damn terrorist, or supposed terrorist you can get your hands on. No matter when, where or how. No discussions, no “chats”, no give and take, no diplomacy, no bribes, no treaties. THEY DIE, WE DON’T.

And everybody better be ready for a hundred year war, because it started on 9:11.

I call people who are not prepared or not willing to defend themselves speed bumps on the road of life. But They are necessary to divert the enemy while the rest of us gain the advantage and slaughter the SOB's.

Terminate all of them with extreme prejudice and let allah sort them out.

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission..

Well moe, looking at your bio, you autta know. Just tell me when to fire.

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Originally posted by comingofage:
Well moe, looking at your bio, you autta know. Just tell me when to fire.

Just keep your powder dry..and pray that we never have to use it..

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Originally posted by moe1942:

Just keep your powder dry..and pray that we never have to use it..

Actually moe, I pray we do use the powder we have, because in about 5 more years our government will see to it that we don't have any. Then the "SOB's" will get a jump on us.

Let's face it, that's where the ACLU, Politicians, and liberals are taking us.

And I ain't gonna follow em!

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Originally posted by comingofage:

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Originally posted by moe1942:

Just keep your powder dry..and pray that we never have to use it..

Actually moe, I pray we do use the powder we have, because in about 5 more years our government will see to it that we don't have any. Then the "SOB's" will get a jump on us.

Let's face it, that's where the ACLU, Politicians, and liberals are taking us.

And I ain't gonna follow em!

Good Point , scary as Hell

If you have the same type weapon as your potential enemy then have a stash of ammo and rely on your enemy for resupply. Ammo has a long shelf life. How much can you carry??

And as for the vermin you spoke of, they can't take us anywhere we don't want to go..

English statesman, Burke, said "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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Originally posted by The_Bonesaw:
So the recommendation is to nuke the entire Middle East in order to insure we get all the terrorists?

Kill 200 (plus) million people, in order to get the small percentage (2 or 3%) that are militant fundamentalists?







Of course, you won't be able to stop at the ME, because there are 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, with probably less than 20% of them living in the Middle East. You'll have to glass Africa and most of Europe - much of the U.S. (all of Michigan, just to be safe)... pretty much the whole world except for South America and a few remote Pacific islands.

What's your plan..

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Originally posted by WilliamMalcomson:

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Originally posted by thepoopgoblin:
Are you suggesting we glass the Middle East?

I'm asking if there is any other possible, REASONABLE solution,

The only solution that I can think of other than nuc-ing a major portion of the middle east would be to wean ourselves off of oil completely. Most terrorist funding comes from oil revenue going into Saudi Arabia, and if we went to a hydrogen economy, Saudi Arabia become a kingdom of goat herders again. We are not that far from it, fusion is only a few years away, less if any serious effort was put into it. Fuel cell vehicles are already scheduled for introduction next year, and hydrogen burning engines have already been developed. All it would take is enough support and pushing for that transition to take hold, and we will be on the way to starving the terrorist cockroaches of funding for their fun and games.

If we are talking about "glassing strategies", which are soooo "tempting" and soooo impossible, i would like to purpose several things:

1)Do not glass Israel. We are small and easy to miss so make an effort please.

2)instead of nuking, conquer Iran, take out electricity (power stations and power lines), build bases around oil wells, level the area in 20 km radius and kill everything that moves there. Plunder Iran's gold reserves. That way you will take over the oil, get rich and smash the terrorists. Do not enter the cities, it is pointless. Let them stew in their juice until they learn not to blow up the Twin towers.

3)remember to cut us in. We shall gladly accept the Biblical area that is equal to king's Solomon kingdom. We are not greedy.

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Originally posted by dwgerard:

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Originally posted by WilliamMalcomson:

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Originally posted by thepoopgoblin:
Are you suggesting we glass the Middle East?

I'm asking if there is any other possible, REASONABLE solution,

The only solution that I can think of other than nuc-ing a major portion of the middle east would be to wean ourselves off of oil completely. Most terrorist funding comes from oil revenue going into Saudi Arabia, and if we went to a hydrogen economy, Saudi Arabia become a kingdom of goat herders again. We are not that far from it, fusion is only a few years away, less if any serious effort was put into it. Fuel cell vehicles are already scheduled for introduction next year, and hydrogen burning engines have already been developed. All it would take is enough support and pushing for that transition to take hold, and we will be on the way to starving the terrorist cockroaches of funding for their fun and games.

Ain't going to happen in your lifetime. What's your backup plan??

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I beleive we just have to set back and let the extrimists do what they want to do. We can't stop the money flow to the islamic groups. Money isn't what is funding the IED's in Iraq. It's other groups from surrounding countries. Our borders cannot be closed. Yes I said it. The borders cannot be closed. I live in a border state. We get more illegals thru here then anyone wants to admit to.

Over 1 billion people that want us dead. How many of them will die just to get a few of there brothers into te US of A to do harm to us? I think we have to wait this one out and let them tip thier hand and meet them where they want us to. Then meet them with what ever force is called for.