how is it that cilvil. personel are allow to live on most BASES, and they hand pick just a few old worn out whole in the wall bases for retirees. is this their way of saying THANKS

Both programs are relatively new - neither civilian personnel nor retirees have been allowed to live on-post/base before. There aren't THAT many civilians living in quarters - and they do PAY for the privilege. Do you have any idea how much of the military's work is now done by civilians?

If the civilian personnel are mission-essential, I have no problem with them living on-post/base.

The "old worn out whole [sic] in the wall bases" are installations that have been put on the BRAC list. BRAC'd installations are sold or - in a few cases - turned over to other branches of government. I don't see anything wrong with selling them off to retirement communities ... it beats letting them deteriorate all to hell.

I really don't understand your beef. FWIW, usually people introduce themselves a bit with their first post - don't just start beyotching.

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Originally posted by 8253085:
how is it that cilvil. personel are allow to live on most BASES, and they hand pick just a few old worn out whole in the wall bases for retirees. is this their way of saying THANKS

You may have a valid point, but do use more of an introduction of your issue as Cider states. I am a 21 year retiree who follows most of this type of news fairly closely and haven't seen what you are referring to. Try again with some back up to your issues.

I agree with Cider, introducing yourself before posting goes a long way to gain relationships.

I am trying to respect everyones opinion, but please stay on point. (the subject)

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Originally posted by 8253085:
how is it that cilvil. personel are allow to live on most BASES, and they hand pick just a few old worn out whole in the wall bases for retirees. is this their way of saying THANKS

You might give some specific examples (name some places and give whatever PROOF you have that something inappropriate is actually taking place). Why would a retiree, except in very bad health, want to live on or near a base anyway??

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Originally posted by 8253085:
I am trying to respect everyones opinion, but please stay on point. (the subject)

and how praytell are we to stay on point/subject without being given any particulars?

WHAT!?!? No examples?? I feel SO cheated!!

Hey 8253085, welcome to the club. Once you have visited for a while, you find very little mercy. My advice is to take advice when offered and grow a thicker skin. You are going up against pretty effective debaters (master sometimes). No one has attacked you, just trying to get more specifics than a gripe.

It would make sense to open some unused barracks to homeless vets and struggling retirees - but under stringent conditions of keeping up the places, hygene, cleaning etc Like the old Civilian Conservation Corp (CCC) - but don't expect to see it any time soon - -

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Originally posted by greywolfghost:
It would make sense to open some unused barracks to homeless vets and struggling retirees - but under stringent conditions of keeping up the places, hygene, cleaning etc Like the old Civilian Conservation Corp (CCC) - but don't expect to see it any time soon - -

Part of the Forest Glen Annex of Walter Reed Army Medical Center (where the PX, Commissary, the old VN-era psych wards and other stuff is located - in MD, about five miles from WRAMC proper) was given to DC/MD to use as a homeless shelter in the early '90s.

I don't know if it's still in use today for that purpose - or what is to become of Forest Glen with the BRACing of WRAMC - but it worked for a long time ...