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I have an idea for additional protection of vehicles from IEDs. Take 4 to 6 inch pipe, fill with sand , cap the ends and hang lenghwise under and along the sides of the vehicle by cable or on racks . It would absorb blast energy much as a barrel of sand protects cars from concrete abutments. Both materials should be readily available on site and with some expeimentation might help. I would like some feedback on the practicality of the concept.

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that does sound like a reasonable idea and i think that could absorb some of the blast, but i don't see how, if hung, it could do that. perhaps if it was attached along the sides of vehicles as you said it would be of more use. what material do you think would be the most useful?
 
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Also, only a 4-6 inch pipe? i thought the bigger the more absorbant
 
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Perhaps PVC pipe, so as not to create projectiles. You could weave them together with tape to keep them still.

Your idea is similar to how they treated troop carriers in Vietnam, filling them with sand bags and ridding on top.

I've another idea for modifying current light vehicles, like Humvees. An angular deflector plate. You could hinge it at the angle, the point of the 'triangle,' down the center of the vehicle, with a hydraulic positioner. Off road you could position the plate up, flat against the bottom. On road, where the IEDs like to be, you could then position the plat angle down, like a "V".

This would only be helpful for explosions under the vehicle though.

Hard to explain. I can AutoCAD something....
 
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Perhaps PVC pipe, so as not to create projectiles. You could weave them together with tape to keep them still.

Your idea is similar to how they treated troop carriers in Vietnam, filling them with sand bags and ridding on top.

I've another idea for modifying current light vehicles, like Humvees. An angular deflector plate. You could hinge it at the angle, the point of the 'triangle,' down the center of the vehicle, with a hydraulic positioner. Off road you could position the plate up, flat against the bottom. On road, where the IEDs like to be, you could then position the plat angle down, like a "V".

This would only be helpful for explosions under the vehicle though.

Hard to explain. I can AutoCAD something....


I read you one-by-one, but you may need a lift kit even if you only used it on the road.
 
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Hmm the sand idea is a good one.. Maybe sheets that could be hung over the sides, or slung underneath covering the bottom?? it would create a more even protection, because where tubes came together would be a weak point. You could maybe use a quilted pattern to keep sand from settling to the bottom over time.
Perhaps the same idea in long overlapping "scales" then there wouldn't be a settling issue. Do you think they have someone that works on these problems, or do you suppose they don't care enough to put the manpower and $$ into trying?
 
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The biggest problem with this idea is weight.

The sand in the pipes will weigh a ton. That means that vehicle suspensions will need to be reinforced. It also means increased wear on tires and engines, more fuel consumption and less available weight and space on the vehicle for personnel, weapons and cargo.
 
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