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Originally posted by mdnew:
Since the reserve guys don't have to worry about shipping out

Not sure what the "shipping out" comment refers to. If by that you mean that we don't get mobilized or deployed, then you are woefully misinformed. During the runup to A school, NR personnel are highly encouraged to think about the C school they would like. Often this will be dictated by the command's requirements and mission scope. Other times the NR will have his choice (within reason). As soon as that servicemember completes A school, the clock starts ticking. Most, including myself, immediately locked up a C school for follow-on. Most NR are deployed within six to nine months after completion of their school(A or C). There is no direct requirement that the NR have a NEC before he rolls out, but gaining commands are typically trying to plug people into a billet with a core level of knowledge.

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Originally posted by NutSnack:

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Originally posted by mdnew:
Since the reserve guys don't have to worry about shipping out

Not sure what the "shipping out" comment refers to. If by that you mean that we don't get mobilized or deployed, then you are woefully misinformed. During the runup to A school, NR personnel are highly encouraged to think about the C school they would like. Often this will be dictated by the command's requirements and mission scope. Other times the NR will have his choice (within reason). As soon as that servicemember completes A school, the clock starts ticking. Most, including myself, immediately locked up a C school for follow-on. Most NR are deployed within six to nine months after completion of their school(A or C). There is no direct requirement that the NR have a NEC before he rolls out, but gaining commands are typically trying to plug people into a billet with a core level of knowledge.

Yes, thanks. I know that lots of NR get deployed and a lot are HC and IS. I guess I said it wrong, but what I was trying to ask is do NR get the C school first option or do the enlisted "attached" guys get first dibs. Also, have you deployed yet and if so where did you go. Thanks for all the answers they are informative.

The fourth NEC is 3912 - the ground billet. Not THAT hard to get into. They typically take the top performer(s) in the class. Which in my case was a reservist. But she is also from Florida.... Typically though the ground billets go to fleet returnees. But a good bit of booters end up in there too. At least when i was in school a couple months ago.

they DO NOT take the top performer in the class. They take the ones who are mature enough to handle it, and the ones who take initiative and bring their interest in the NEC to them.

They try to give the top performers their top "wish list" choices - however, if 3912 is at the top of the list, and they haven't shown initiative to get into the 3912 NEC, then they can forget about it.

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Originally posted by mdnew:
How about every reserve IS. Do they also get a C school. Since the reserve guys don't have to worry about shipping out they probably would get them would be my guess. Does anyone know for sure.

I enlisted as a reserve IS in the NAT program, and I have C school guaranteed on my contract. In fact, it's required -- I must "attend Class C school for up to 15 weeks upon successful completion of Class A school."

I'm an AD3 and have been in for 7 years. Should have crossed over sooner. I'm surprised they even let me do it. My question is...How long is the "A" School, and about how long are different "C" Schools? Thanks.

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Originally posted by 20252968:
I'm an AD3 and have been in for 7 years. Should have crossed over sooner. I'm surprised they even let me do it. My question is...How long is the "A" School, and about how long are different "C" Schools? Thanks.

I was in IS "A" school for 82 Days.

From there I went to IS imagery "C" school for 103 Days.

I decided to post here instead of making a whole new thread.

I heard or read somewhere that IS people are not going to be assigned to ships anymore; instead they will serve most of their time on shore.

Is this true?

If it is, are all NEC's like this? I'm leaning towards being an IS, but I REALLY want to be aboard a ship as much as I can. I read somewhere that OPINTEL gets shipped out a lot.

I don't want to be tied to the shore for most of my navy career.

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What about carriers, independent duty on DDGs, CGs, LPHs, LHAs, air wings, VP squadrons,? I seriously doubt IS's will not be aboard any type of ship. I for one would like to be stationed aboard one of the new LCSs.

My bad. I meant that IS's are not going to go underway anymore. They will be assigned to a ship, but they just won't be part of the ship's staff when it goes underway.

I seriously doubt that the IS rate will not be underway anymore. Like I said before large-deck ships like CVNs, LHAs, LPHs, and small boys like DDGs, CGs, etc will have IS personnel onboard while underway. The INTEL centers onthese ships are manned by IS's. Where did you hear that IS's will not be underway with a ship? Maybe COMCARGRU staff IS's or something like that but not IS's that are assigned to a ship. IS 's assigned ship's company will got to sea with the ship, they are a part of the crew. Sometimes the staff dosen't go but when the ship goes on deployement everyone goes with the ship, especially if they are ship's company.

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RaiderX21

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I heard...........

RaiderX21
My bad............

Sounds like the scuttlebutt hasn't changed one bit since I got out.

When in doubt go straight to the source for correct info.

159/09 INTELLIGENCE MANPOWER ALIGNMENT 05/28/2009

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AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND LARGE DECK AMPHIBIOUS SHIPS
WILL RETAIN A REDUCED PERMANENT INTELLIGENCE COMPLEMENT AND WILL BE
AUGMENTED BY DEDICATED FLEET INTELLIGENCE DETACHMENTS FOR UNDERWAY
TRAINING, DEPLOYMENT, AND SURGE REQUIREMENTS....

.....CVN/LHA/LHD WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK-UP AND DEPLOY WITH INTELLIGENCE TEAMS MANNED AT LEVELS
CONSISTENT WITH RECENT DEPLOYMENTS,......

BoatsBM1

So the large deck commands will still have IS's onboard but at reduced levels, then ramp up when the ship is deployed or getting ready to deploy. Then who will do all the shipboard stuff? When I reported to the IKE back in 1988, I was assigned to the INTEL DIV (OZ) but then I was "picked" to be the DCPO for the rest of the cruise and for awhile after that. I was also sent down to the mess deck to be the DCPO there. I did a stellar job according to the warrant in charge of the MSAs but all I got waas a "atta boy". Then back up to the INTEL center for my next deployment. Yeah the strategy sounds good because then istead of being used as extra hands in the shipyard they can be training and honing their INTEL skills. I guess the leadership has finally seen that the IS 's should be doing their jobs instead of being cannon fodder for so-called "extra jobs". BZ!

you will be leased out from intelligence centers like ONI.

The NAVADMIN has alot of navy speak but was the real driving force behind this change besides force realignment and stuff like that. Just an old IS being curious.

Very interesting read. The three pages of post have been very informative. Navy 'A'School is alot more relaxed than Army AIT (Which is good! )

I'm considering the IS rate. I already have an active secret clearance (Need TS) and have the ASVAB score.